The NSM Ultimate Ranking Topic

[mikey]

the Mario franchise is insanely repetitive so if you like the gameplay a lot that's fantastic
if platformers aren't your thing there's only a few of them that you'll like

[LeviR.star]

I'm only stating the facts for what they are

Calling those statements "facts" is pretty extreme. Each New Super Mario Bros. game is similiar, because they're all called, "New Super Mario Bros.". Each game has plenty of differences.

[Static]

every single Mario game ever is more or less the exact same thing

except for Sunshine and 64

Galaxy, to me, shares a lot more with its 2D predecessors than anything else in terms of level design and structure. Ever since Galaxy, the trend has gotten a lot more noticable in each subsequent 3D Mario game (though Odyssey might change that). 64 and Sunshine, on the other hand, are much more focused on exploration and collecting things, especially Sunshine.

While it's up to you whether which gameplay style is better, there's no doubt that the 3D games have been aligning more and more with the 2D games ever since Galaxy. Personally, I prefer just pure platforming in my Mario games, but 64/Sunshine have their own merits, such as incredibly varied objectives and deeper controls.

[mastersuperfan]

64/Sunshine have their own merits, such as incredibly varied objectives and deeper controls.

and their own downfalls, such as 100-coin stars and pachinko machines

[Static]

and the blue coins, and the wing cap red coins thing, and the lily pad ride, and the roller coaster balloons, and the watermelon on gelato beach...

[mikey]

maybe I was blinded by the amazing orchestral soundtrack

[mastersuperfan]

and the watermelon on gelato beach...

AGH FUCK MAN I'D FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT WHY DID YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME

[LeviR.star]

AGH FUCK MAN I'D FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT WHY DID YOU HAVE TO REMIND ME

It wasn't that bad.

[mastersuperfan]

It was.

[mikey]

I think it was pretty bad

[ThatHiddenCharacter]

and the watermelon on gelato beach...

Spoiler

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[LeviR.star]

Pachinko Machine is still way worse.

[mikey]

I don't think I've gotten that shine sprite to this day

[Static]

No, the worst is the lily pad ride...

...taking like 10 minutes to ride the boats over with yoshi (who cant touch water for some reason)...

...you only get one shot to get all the red coins or else you have to tediously hover across the river and hope you don't die...

...that one fucking pipe at the end that you think takes you back the beginning of the stage...

It's just awful.

[WaluigiTime64]