[PC] Enderal - "Fleshless"

[Valdrimari]

Enderal is a new PC game (although a total conversion mod based on Skyrim) with a great music score, and I would really like to a see a full version of "Fleshless" in Midi Format made by a good ear, notably because I do want to learn how to play this particular piece, and being in Midi format would be easier because the sheet notes are audible and visual, able to be set at whatever music notation you prefer (depending on what Midi program you use to interpret Midi files).

"More about Enderal, a new PC game"

Quoted from SureAI who developed the game,
"Enderal is a total conversion mod for The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim. A total conversion is a game mod that does not add an island or quest, but instead creates its own world with its own landmass, questlines and characters. It relies only on the engine and the graphical resources of the original game (and often, as in the case of Enderal, adds many of its own resources). Enderal can thus be regarded as a new role-playing game using the assets of Skyrim; it is set in the world of Vyn (as was its precursor -- the Oblivion mod "Nehrim - At Fate´s Edge") and offers what we believe to be 30 to 100 hours of gameplay (depending on your play style).

What distinguishes Enderal from Skyrim?

In Enderal, we have attempted to combine open world gaming with a complex and profound storyline. While the game world of Enderal is smaller than Skyrim´s and the quests are fewer, we believe that the depth of our story and the complexity of our characters both surpass those in recent Elder Scrolls games. Enderal also differs in its game mechanics: While some have been taken over from Skyrim unchanged, others have been refined (for example, some armor sets in Enderal give set bonuses when several pieces are worn), and yet others (such as leveling up and the raising of skills) have been overhauled so greatly that they hardly resemble Skyrim mechanics any more (most noticeably, Skyrim´s "learning by doing" skill-ups have been replaced by experience points and skill books). Finally, a few (such as levelscaling and randomly spawning enemies) have been completely removed. As far as level design is concerned, Enderal spans several climate zones and regions, only some of which share Skyrim´s distinctive Nordic atmosphere and color palette."

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P.S. As pointed out by Dudeman in the comments below, "We've run into far too many occasions of someone just taking one of our MIDIs, posting it to YouTube using Synthesia, and claiming it as their own."

If you (the arranger) feel uncomfortable posting the Midi Tabs publicly for the above reason, send me a PM instead.

A big Thank You to whoever can tab this out!
Valdrimari

[Dudeman]

Hm, I feel like this situation has come up before, so I'll ask again: what's our policy on arranging tracks from mods of existing games? They're technically not an official title of any sort. Of course, if someone still wants to arrange this piece, they're more than welcome to, but I don't know if we could submit this for the main site.

Also, Valdrimari, it generally doesn't look as good if you specifically request a MIDI file. We've run into far too many occasions of someone just taking one of our MIDIs, posting it to YouTube using Synthesia, and claiming it as their own. We arrange pieces to be actually played on a piano. While transcribing this piece in particular wouldn't be too difficult hypothetically, I personally would feel a lot better about my work if I knew I was doing it because someone wanted to play it.

[Valdrimari]

Hm, I feel like this situation has come up before, so I'll ask again: what's our policy on arranging tracks from mods of existing games? They're technically not an official title of any sort. Of course, if someone still wants to arrange this piece, they're more than welcome to, but I don't know if we could submit this for the main site.

That's the thing, the game may be a total conversion mod based on Skyrim, but as far as Enderal's music score goes, that is SureAI's work. They made their own music score, and even though the game may be a mod based on Skyrim, it is so changed it's practically a new game, and a great many agree on that vs. the few who do not based on what I've read from feedback on Enderal. That is because Enderal uses, for the most part, only the Engine Skyrim was based on. Otherwise, SureAI would be sued if Enderal was an exact copy of Skyrim.

With that being said in mind, I did not know there was such a Policy (if there is one) in place, but I do not think somebody tabbing this request would be doing something terribly wrong. I thought the idea of fan-made (or even exact interpretations of music pieces submitted here) was to raise awareness of what games and what music is out there, and to provide those who want to learn music on the Piano the resources to learn (easier with Midis).

Even if this request cannot be posted on the main page of the site (for whatever reason), I would still like to use the Midi for personal use only.

Also, Valdrimari, it generally doesn't look as good if you specifically request a MIDI file. We've run into far too many occasions of someone just taking one of our MIDIs, posting it to YouTube using Synthesia, and claiming it as their own.

So basically, because of the dishonest and disrespectful few out of the bunch, the honest people in the community suffer as a result having no access to newly made Midis on the main page from this day, onward,  because this is now a thing with Synthesia? Not everyone can interpret actual sheet notes (aka time signatures, etc), and depriving the community of new Midis only stifles the learning experience.

I joined this site not long ago to learn the music I like, not to take it for myself, but how do you know? You don't, and I guess that's the dilemma here. In that case, this will sadly be my last request (hoping somebody with a good ear will tab it) if this is going to be a thing with Midis.

We arrange pieces to be actually played on a piano. While transcribing this piece in particular wouldn't be too difficult hypothetically, I personally would feel a lot better about my work if I knew I was doing it because someone wanted to play it.

Well, that's the thing, I do actually want to learn how to play it on Piano, and because Midi Format allows you to see and hear the Notes at same time, for me, it is easier to learn music that way. Just reading regular sheet notes without being in the Notation you prefer to read (like Lettered Notation I prefer) is tougher in my honest opinion.

P.S. I will make note of it in my OP that whoever tabs Enderal's - "Fleshless", the Midi tabs will be used for learning purposes and not for anything else. It is why I make requests on NinSheetMusic to begin with.

[KefkaticFanatic]

People can request whatever they want, we just encourage it to be moved to something like the "Music" section when it's an entirely un-game related thing like a movie score.

That being said, I don't think there's anything wrong with your request, but many people on the site are very proud of their work, and would appreciate it if you were to give them some level of credit were you to base something off of it.

[Valdrimari]

People can request whatever they want, we just encourage it to be moved to something like the "Music" section when it's an entirely un-game related thing like a movie score.

Except Enderal is a game; it is not a movie. Therefore, because this particular track comes from a game, it is game-related, is it not?

That being said, I don't think there's anything wrong with your request, but many people on the site are very proud of their work, and would appreciate it if you were to give them some level of credit were you to base something off of it.

I do not plan to 'base' or 'use the Midi tabs in or on something' beyond just learning how to play the notes. That being said, of course credit (and appreciation) is given, anyway, even if I do not plan on using the Midi tabs beyond learning purposes.

[KefkaticFanatic]

Yes, my point was that this is game related, and belongs here.

We have seen in the past that people use midis to create/post other learning material in the form of youtube videos or some other application.  This isn't a problem, it's just that the arrangers usually appreciate it if you give them an acknowledgement.  That's the only point of that comment.

If you're just using the midi for private use... then have fun!

[Valdrimari]

Yes, my point was that this is game related, and belongs here.

Thank you for the clarification. Pardon me for misinterpreting your initial response.

We have seen in the past that people use midis to create/post other learning material in the form of youtube videos or some other application.  This isn't a problem, it's just that the arrangers usually appreciate it if you give them an acknowledgement.  That's the only point of that comment.

Yes, and that is the dilemma here it seems... I understand where the arrangers are coming from, but it is equally frustrating to those who want to learn music who have a hard time doing so without visual and audible sheet notes (Midis).

If you're just using the midi for private use... then have fun!

Thank you. Perhaps I should note it in my OP that if the arranger feels uncomfortable posting the Midi Tabs publicly to send me PM instead. Hopefully something can be worked out.