Shadowkirby is unbanned, rants

[EFitTrainr]

The fact that I was warned for plagiarism.

[cashwarrior1]

I mean, plagiarism is wrong, is it not?

[mikey]

he doesn't think it should count as plagiarizing

[Olimar12345]

Because it was parody, not plagiarism.

[SlowPokemon]

If he's going to create parody arrangements, he needs to make his own from scratch. Not use other people's as a base without permission. I'm not going to budge from that stance.

[Wrydryn]

So from what I know, given that it was uploaded through the Panel and not just a post in the Submission part of the forum or just even a post in off-topic that's formatted for the Submission I think a ban was justified. It does end up making more work however short when something like this is done. Even if it's a parody and still technically plagiarism you still need to know your audience and this is the result of that. I hope going forward we can continue to have a solid stance on alts and re-uploading others work so nobody feels slighted on expectations of rules.

I didn't authorize that

Don't worry, I'm still dead inside.^Kidding

[Pianist Da Sootopolis]

The fact that I was warned for plagiarism.

...because you plagiarized.

[EFitTrainr]

Nah I made a joke.

[Pianist Da Sootopolis]

Nah I made a joke.

With plagiarism as its base. Satire doesn't excuse you from criticism.

[EFitTrainr]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use#Fair_use_and_parody

You can criticize me all you want, but that doesn't mean you're right.

[Pianist Da Sootopolis]

False equivalence. All Fair Use as applied to parody/satire means is that you can't be sued; it doesn't mean NSM is obligated to host your arrangement.
In addition, Fair Use implies that you gave credit to the original source, which you didn't.

[Maelstrom]

If you would have posted them in your arrangement thread, no one would have cared.
It was the submissions that made it a big deal.
Again, people take submissions too lightly. They're for when your sheet is finished, not when you're tired of working on it.
(that last sentence doesn't apply to SK)

[EFitTrainr]

Except I think you're all completely missing the point that it was a joke

[Pianist Da Sootopolis]

For something to be a joke, it has to be funny

Sorry Slow, gonna draw your quote from almost 2 years ago into this.

That rule isn't actually a thing, of course, but consider the reception of it to see if it being a "joke" warrants you not being cited for plagiarism.

[EFitTrainr]

So are you saying you thought those arrangements were serious in nature?