TWG LXXXVI: Mo' Money, Mo' Werewolf Games

[BrainyLucario]

Two lives were lost...doesn't that mean there are still two wolves?

[TheMarioPianist]

Two lives were lost...doesn't that mean there are still two wolves?

Not necessarily...there could have been a gun or poison dart. I don't think the way you lose a life is shown.

[TheMarioPianist]

My guess is that I was wolfed, and someone used one of those 2 things on BDS due to suspicion as wolf? Possibly bc of this quite some time ago?

For this reason, I'm hesitant to jump on the "let's all buy warrants" plan, because it seems like putting all our eggs in one basket without even knowing how reliable that basket might be (errm, I hope everybody understands what I'm trying to say).

I don't know. Maybe Noc was human, but I'm almost positive he wasn't. If there are 2 wolves, they spent a combined NSM$400 over the last night phase. Watch out, in that case.

[E. Gadd Industries]

Warrant Results:

Yellow
12Mari0

...Well would you look at that. Yellow's red. Either he's a wolf, miller, or a victim of foul play.

[12Mari0]

Hey TMP, how much money did the wolves have on days 1 and 2? This could tell us for certain whether Noc was a wolf.

[TheMarioPianist]

Hey TMP, how much money did the wolves have on days 1 and 2? This could tell us for certain whether Noc was a wolf.

Day 1: NSM$400
Day 2: NSM$525
Day 3: NSM$325

Noc bought the sniper on Night 2. Not a wolf. :/

[12Mari0]

Ahh. That... Oh dear.

[E. Gadd Industries]

What could they've bought?

[BrainyLucario]

That's not good at all...

I don't think anyone would be against me voting for Yellow

[12Mari0]

I'll abstain from voting for now, though I have formed suspicions.

[E. Gadd Industries]

I agree with 12Mari0 for this one.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

Hmm, curious, is there anything preventing E. Gadd and 12Mari0 from being wolves (either together or separate)?

[davy]

At 1:12:38AM CET a sniper was fired and TheMarioPianist lost two lives. He died.

1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Dudeman
3. TheMarioPianist
4. E. Gadd Industries
5. BrainyLucario
6. NocturneOfShadow
7. Yellow
8. FireArrow
9. 12Mari0

[BrainyLucario]

..........i'm at a loss for words

[BlackDragonSlayer]

ALL RIGHT. I'M GONNA MAKE THIS GAME A LOT MORE INTERESTING.

At 1:12:38AM CET a sniper was fired and TheMarioPianist lost two lives. He died.

1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Dudeman
3. TheMarioPianist
4. E. Gadd Industries
5. BrainyLucario
6. NocturneOfShadow
7. Yellow
8. FireArrow
9. 12Mari0

Um... after converting timezones, that was approximately 4:12 PM Pacific Time. At almost 6:20 PM Pacific Time, I got this message.

Actually, I'm suspicious of a TMP/Noc pairing, if the real banker knew he was going to get wolfed if he counterclaimed, TMP's claim could have been a ruse to sniff out the real Banker and, as there was no counterclaim, he had to make up numbers to imply Noc wasn't a wolf and thereby make us all suspicious of other people, leaving the 2 of them unsuspicious. Maybe Noc's businessman claim was part of the same plan?!

I told this to E Gadd, what is your opinion on this theory?

This brings up some interesting possibilities:
1: It implies that 12Mari0 has done some chatting with E. Gadd- at least enough to share his plans with him. *
2: Unless this was also sent to everybody else, I seem like a random person to send this to. Except...
3: The idea itself seems almost unfounded (TMP was completely uncounterclaimed, and even then, TMP had no reason to lie about Nocturne here, which 12Mari0 would have seen before sending his "theory" to E. Gadd, which he then sent to me), yet made with a specific purpose- this ties in well with point two.

So, what conclusions can I draw about this? Assuming that both E. Gadd and 12Mari0 are wolves, they probably sniped TMP, and then decided on a plan (albeit somewhat botched- for example, not realizing, as I pointed out in my reply to them- below^- that it would be hard to find an alternative "real" banker under this "theory") to make it look like they were more human to me (while simultaneously masking any future purchases), someone who, IIRC, was one of the few people who have voted for them, while expressing a serious reason behind voting.

In hindsight, 12Mari0's early agreement with Nocturne's plan to buy warrants could be clinging to an idea that, on the surface, seemed human (agreeing with an idea that seems so "obviously human" is an easy way to look human... obviously!!). Also, look who else did the same thing (comparison)!

* Judging simply by the thread, this has been going on for a few days, at least- likely longer:

E. Gadd would agree that I'm not a wolf

I have offered advice to E.Gadd and will share that with you.

And, in light of everything, this really isn't suspicious at all (guess who's blue, apparently!).

Warrant Results:

Yellow
12Mari0

...Well would you look at that. Yellow's red. Either he's a wolf, miller, or a victim of foul play.

^ My reply to the PM:

This kind of leaves few options as to who the real banker is, though... if you can fill in some of the other blanks, then I guess it could make sense.