Adjusting the Pokémon Games

[Maelstrom]

Is now a good time to bring up the ordering problem with the Zelda section

What's wrong with it.

[JDMEK5]

We had this discussion in the Red/Blue project and we basically decided to just label the 3rd game tracks with "(Yellow)" or "(Yellow Version)" where applicable. It looks great and works very nicely. Why not just use the same system for the others too? I love consistency.

[SlowPokemon]

Completely disagree, even though there are only a few tracks exclusive to Yellow, they are not in Red and Blue at all and shouldn't be treated as the same game. This is an especially bad way to handle things for, say, Platinum, which has 30+ exclusive tracks, or Black 2 and White 2, which has well over 100.

[JDMEK5]

Completely disagree, even though there are only a few tracks exclusive to Yellow, they are not in Red and Blue at all and shouldn't be treated as the same game. This is an especially bad way to handle things for, say, Platinum, which has 30+ exclusive tracks, or Black 2 and White 2, which has well over 100.

Alright point taken. Then my vote would be for splitting the 3rd games apart.

[mikey]

What's wrong with it.

They use "The" when alphabetizing.  That's not right

[Pianist Da Sootopolis]

Which would (rightfully) place it in the "L" section. I volunteered at a library a couple weeks ago and ran into this issue, and was taught to categorize something like this as "Legend of Zelda, the" and so on.

[mikey]

not only that, but Minish Cap is underneath the likes of Ocarina of Time

[Brawler4Ever]

I've heard from Latios, but I would like to hear the opinions of the rest of the staff, since this decision entirely rests upon them. As far as the poll goes:

Spoiler

5 votes are unanimous in favor of my proposal, as of this post.

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To summarize my idea:
1) The first two games in each generation of Pokemon games would be a combined game. As far as I've seen, they always share the same soundtrack.
2) The third game would only include songs exclusive to that game; repeats would belong to the prior games in that generation.
3) Every other suggestion is up for debate and discussion. My main idea rests entirely on the first two points; everything else is based around the optimization of these two central ideas.

[SlowPokemon]

Nice job explaining, but I think it's important to clarify that in the events where the remake includes a *remix* of a track, and you base your arrangement on the remix, not the original, it should fall under the remake. Seems obvious, but if you base your arrangement of "Battle! (Trainer Battle)" on the version in Black 2 & White 2, rather than the (very similar) version in Black & White, it might be confusing for some to know that it should be filed under the Black 2 & White 2 section. I hope that makes sense.

[JDMEK5]

To summarize my idea:
1) The first two games in each generation of Pokemon games would be a combined game. As far as I've seen, they always share the same soundtrack.
2) The third game would only include songs exclusive to that game; repeats would belong to the prior games in that generation.

Nice job explaining, but I think it's important to clarify that in the events where the remake includes a *remix* of a track, and you base your arrangement on the remix, not the original, it should fall under the remake. Seems obvious, but if you base your arrangement of "Battle! (Trainer Battle)" on the version in Black 2 & White 2, rather than the (very similar) version in Black & White, it might be confusing for some to know that it should be filed under the Black 2 & White 2 section. I hope that makes sense.

Yes. These two things and then we're all set. Let's implement them both together cuz that takes care of everything and exactly the way it should be done.

[Altissimo]

How are we thinking the titles should be represented on the sheets? "Pokémon Gold Version and Pokémon Silver Version", like Latios212 is trying to make the standard in the GSC arrangement project?

Also, what of the RBY tracks - Red and Blue, or Red and Green?

[Latios212]

1) The first two games in each generation of Pokemon games would be a combined game. As far as I've seen, they always share the same soundtrack.

There are a couple of exceptions (ex, Opelucid City from B/W) but it's fine since the OSTs combine the games and the other 99% of tracks are shared.

How are we thinking the titles should be represented on the sheets? "Pokémon Gold Version and Pokémon Silver Version", like Latios212 is trying to make the standard in the GSC arrangement project?

Also, what of the RBY tracks - Red and Blue, or Red and Green?

Errr, we already did Pokémon Red/Blue Version for gen 1 project but either should work. As long as it includes only the paired games and the word "version". And North American titles, correct? So Red and Blue.

Yes. These two things and then we're all set. Let's implement them both together cuz that takes care of everything and exactly the way it should be done.

Gotta get Jamaha. He's the only one who can edit site category titles.

[SlowPokemon]

I know it's wordy, but unfortunately if we want to be accurate it should be as follows:
Pokémon Red Version & Pokémon Blue Version
Pokémon Yellow Version
etc.
Pokémon Black Version 2 & Pokémon White Version 2
and then starting with the 3DS games, "version" is eliminated from the title:
Pokémon X & Pokémon Y
Pokémon Omega Ruby & Pokémon Alpha Sapphire

Worth noting that the first two hybrid word games are written as a single word with two capitalizations, without a space, as follows:
Pokémon FireRed Version & Pokémon LeafGreen Version
Pokémon HeartGold Version & Pokémon SoulSilver Version

Writing it as Red/Blue Version or Red & Blue Version implies that the first game is called Red with the second being called Blue Version. According to grammar, the way I suggested is appropriate.

[Olimar12345]

Yeah, but they're all "Pokémon [something] Version." It makes sense to use the shortened "Pokémon Red/Blue Versions" scheme, for example.

[SlowPokemon]

Besides everything from XY forward omitting the version, I don't think you caught my edit:

Writing it as Red/Blue Version or Red & Blue Version implies that the first game is called Red with the second being called Blue Version. According to grammar, the way I suggested is appropriate.

It's my opinions that the "/" character also looks unprofessional IMO, especially considering that all official Game Freak sources including the soundtrack albums use "&" instead. And "Red/Blue Versions" is just a clunky way of putting it.