TWG LXXXII: File Island

[FireArrow]

You're assuming that:
A: None of those people are lying about being green (which, as you yourself brought up, isn't true).
B: Fank would need to claim green to be green, rather than being assumed green by process of elimination (me in particular knowing he's not the guardian nor the vigi).

No, you know what I'm talking about. Stop dumbtelling. If you really haven't read the thread at all and fank is taking advantage of that to both get you lynched and get information on the blues, then you can go sit in the "this game is too complicated so I'm sabotaging my team" corner with dude

[Brawler4Ever]

On top of everything, why would I say this:Without any doubt, if I thought:
1: The guardian was still alive (which should eliminate any reasons you think I would claim as a wolf in the first place), and...
2: Fank would be the most likely candidate for guardian by process of elimination, giving him no reason to "verify that I'm a human."

Me claiming to Fank in the first place makes no sense if I'm a wolf. Because Fank is wolf (I'm not even going to say "assuming" any more because I don't have to!), me claiming to him would be the perfect setup for his own claim (which I find was not foreshadowed in any way).

This post literally makes no sense to me.

There are only 4 people left that haven't died. Of those 4, 2 are wolves. The only wolf that has died was noc, and he was reborn. Dudeman and I claimed green. You and Fank claimed blue. One person in each group is a wolf. You are unable to prove that you're vigi. Claiming guardian is much more safe. If Fank had asked you via pm to vigi someone, your cover would be blown. You had to claim guardian in order to defend yourself. As it happened, Olimar died anyway and here we are.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

As a prime example, none of this conversation makes sense from Fank's perspective if he's a guardian who knows he can guard himself (as he claims to have asked), or even being a special in the first place (that's an invitation to be wolfed, thus meaning he's actually a wolf who makes prompt wolfings or green trying to attract wolves away from the specials, the latter of which we now know he isn't).

06:02:14: <fank009> who should I use my action on tonight?
06:02:28: <Brawler4Ever> what action is that?
06:02:54: <Brawler4Ever> by the context, I would say that you'r eeitehr the guardian or the vigi
06:03:11: <fank009> I think it would be pretty obvious if I was jiji
06:03:12: <Brawler4Ever> either*
06:03:19: <Brawler4Ever> yeah
06:03:20: <fank009> I would have claimed outright D1
06:03:23: <Brawler4Ever> you would have sent the pm
06:03:29: <Brawler4Ever> or that
06:03:31: <fank009> that too
06:03:34: <Brawler4Ever> lol
06:03:52: <fank009> but who should I target
06:03:56: <fank009> just humour me
06:04:06: <Brawler4Ever> if you're guardian, wait until next Night
06:04:08: <fank009> not knowing what I have
06:04:18: <Brawler4Ever> to defend the Seer, but that's just my opinion
06:04:38: <Brawler4Ever> I don't believe that anybody should be vigi'd

[BlackDragonSlayer]

No, you know what I'm talking about. Stop dumbtelling. If you really haven't read the thread at all and fank is taking advantage of that to both get you lynched and get information on the blues, then you can go sit in the "this game is too complicated so I'm sabotaging my team" corner with dude

Did you read my post? Your own argument fails to explain away a number of inconsistencies.

This post literally makes no sense to me.

There are only 4 people left that haven't died. Of those 4, 2 are wolves. The only wolf that has died was noc, and he was reborn. Dudeman and I claimed green. You and Fank claimed blue. One person in each group is a wolf. You are unable to prove that you're vigi. Claiming guardian is much more safe. If Fank had asked you via pm to vigi someone, your cover would be blown. You had to claim guardian in order to defend yourself. As it happened, Olimar died anyway and here we are.

But why not claim green, or, better yet, why would I claim guardian then, of all things- above all, to somebody who, from my wolf perspective, would have a great chance at being the guardian?

[fank009]

I see no claiming- just being sketchy about the issue.

thanks for pointing out a flaw that im being sketchy on details to a) force moves and b) catch people out later.

As a prime example, none of this conversation makes sense from Fank's perspective if he's a guardian who knows he can guard himself (as he claims to have asked), or even being a special in the first place (that's an invitation to be wolfed, thus meaning he's actually a wolf who makes prompt wolfings or green trying to attract wolves away from the specials, the latter of which we now know he isn't).

so how does what you highlight point out the point you are trying to make?

[fank009]

Did you read my post? Your own argument fails to explain away a number of inconsistencies.
But why not claim green, or, better yet, why would I claim guardian then, of all things- above all, to somebody who, from my wolf perspective, would have a great chance at being the guardian?

im sure I saod something bout that 2nd point...

[BlackDragonSlayer]

The earlier post I cited about confusion over Nocturne believing me to be the vigi (seen here) holds more merit and evidence than you are willing to assign it (or even mention in the first place), and thus Fank's PM about me, asking if I was the vigi- and on top of his guardian claim- would only make sense from a wolf perspective (i.e. probing for the actual vigi and gaining human points by asking around in the likely- or perhaps unlikely, rather- candidates).

so how does what you highlight point out the point you are trying to make?

The conversation doesn't make sense if you're a special- especially the guardian.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

thanks for pointing out a flaw that im being sketchy on details to a) force moves and b) catch people out later.

Being sketchy means you don't have a definitive claim at that point, and are probably looking for a special to be killed so you can fill their shoes (or just maneuver yourself into a position where your claim is believable in a half-baked way, as you're doing here).

[Dudeman]

Dudeman and I claimed green. You and Fank claimed blue. One person in each group is a wolf.

Sounds good to me.

Brawler4Ever

[BlackDragonSlayer]

Sounds good to me.

Brawler4Ever

Y'know, at this point, I'd go for any possibly-wolf lynch that isn't me, but... and I hate to complain in this situation, but...

Why not Fank?

[Dudeman]

If my above vote turns out to be baseless, shall we remember that the wolves don't know each other? Fank and BDS could both be wolves attempting to out-counterclaim each other.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

If my above vote turns out to be baseless, shall we remember that the wolves don't know each other? Fank and BDS could both be wolves attempting to out-counterclaim each other.

Given that there are no other guardian claims, this is less likely.

Also, there's the possibility the wolves have gotten in contact somehow, or are picking up on subtle wolfy clues and going along with lynches that in normal circumstances wouldn't make any sense!!!!! !!!!!


!!!!! !!!!!

[BlackDragonSlayer]

Also, where are you, Bubbles and Latios. ._.

[Dudeman]

Such as your advocacy of Fank's and vice-versa?

[fank009]

Given that there are no other guardian claims, this is less likely.

Also, there's the possibility the wolves have gotten in contact somehow, or are picking up on subtle wolfy clues and going along with lynches that in normal circumstances wouldn't make any sense!!!!! !!!!!


!!!!! !!!!!

I feel like you should add a nudge nudge, wink wink. Anyway... when I can do elaborate stuff, then, and only then you would find resistance to be futile