TWG LXXXII: File Island

[Dude]

[fank009]

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02:30:48: <fank009> hi-o you two
02:31:04: <nocturne> sup
02:31:16: <nocturne> he ran away
02:31:25: <nocturne> acting sketch imo
02:31:36: <fank009> who is?
02:31:53: <nocturne> brawler
02:32:38: <fank009> could he be "the one"?
02:33:50: <fank009> did you see my reply noct?
02:33:56: <fank009> as much as its a smart idea,
02:34:04: <fank009> this phase has little to no effect
02:34:10: <fank009> next phase on the other hand...
02:34:45: <Brawler4Ever> sorry I was afk
02:35:17: <fank009> hi brawler
02:35:22: <Brawler4Ever> hey
02:35:45: <fank009> so Q of the hour...
02:36:11: <Brawler4Ever> yes fank
02:36:14: <Brawler4Ever> I am Neo
02:36:16: <nocturne> well if we reveal our roles this phase
02:36:20: <fank009> what is going to be the wolves next move...
02:36:25: <fank009> It wont mean anything
02:36:27: <nocturne> then we can figure out who's who next phase
02:36:43: <fank009> we've had 50,000 green claims
02:36:46: <Brawler4Ever> it's better to wait until next phase to claim
02:36:57: <fank009> not necesarily...
02:36:59: <Brawler4Ever> when greens become specific digimon
02:37:03: <Brawler4Ever> no?
02:37:03: <fank009> ^
02:37:14: <fank009> what it does do...
02:37:27: <fank009> forcing wolves to pick blue/green now does see the cc's
02:37:28: <Brawler4Ever> catches a wolf in a counter claim
02:38:01: <Brawler4Ever> if 2 people claim Leomon
02:38:03: <Brawler4Ever> one is a wolf
02:38:05: <Brawler4Ever> right?
02:38:13: <fank009> yeah
02:38:34: <Brawler4Ever> so that's how it helps, imo
02:38:36: <fank009> but after we kill the two starters we enter into attrition as you mentioned
02:39:07: <Brawler4Ever> true
02:39:22: <Brawler4Ever> but we'll have a more clear picture of the game
02:39:27: <Brawler4Ever> so finding the wolves should be easier
02:39:39: <fank009> ...
02:39:43: <fank009> somewhat
02:39:53: <fank009> but I dont think in the way in which you imagine
02:40:10: <Brawler4Ever> not surprising
02:40:16: <Brawler4Ever> I'm still trying to see the big picture
02:41:14: <nocturne> brb
02:41:41: <Brawler4Ever> ok
02:54:22: <nocturne> so I'm a "data digimon"
02:54:36: <Brawler4Ever> ok
02:54:52: <Brawler4Ever> so am I and 3 others, apparently
02:55:11: <Brawler4Ever> that's why claiming this phase would be ineffective
02:55:15: <nocturne> we shall see >>
02:55:26: <nocturne> naw we claim this phase and next phase
02:55:45: <Brawler4Ever> ok
02:55:50: <Brawler4Ever> not sure I follow, but sure
02:56:46: <Brawler4Ever> do you want me to claim green in the thread this phase?
02:56:57: <nocturne> yeah why not
02:57:10: <nocturne> tell others to claim too
03:02:18: <Brawler4Ever> I have a concern about claiming next phase
03:02:26: <Brawler4Ever> would that put the seer into danger?
03:06:15: <fank009> ...
03:06:24: <fank009> and we care about seers why?
03:06:41: <fank009> i'll be on from time to time to chuck in thoughts
03:07:26: <Brawler4Ever> because seers are important?
03:07:56: <nocturne> not when we already know who everyone is
03:07:58: <nocturne> der
03:08:53: <Brawler4Ever> nvm then
03:10:59: <fank009> seers are good for one thing...
03:11:10: <fank009> when we enter attrition
03:11:38: <Brawler4Ever> ok
03:11:57: <Brawler4Ever> we'll most likely find the green wolf tomorrow
03:12:05: <Brawler4Ever> but then we'll need to find the other one
03:12:08: <Brawler4Ever> hence my concern
03:12:19: <Brawler4Ever> but if it's not something that we need to worry about
03:12:22: <Brawler4Ever> then I'm fine with that
03:32:52: <fank009> I'll be back later
06:01:58: <Brawler4Ever> hey
06:01:59: <fank009> hi
06:02:07: <fank009> so
06:02:14: <fank009> who should I use my action on tonight?
06:02:28: <Brawler4Ever> what action is that?
06:02:54: <Brawler4Ever> by the context, I would say that you'r eeitehr the guardian or the vigi
06:03:11: <fank009> I think it would be pretty obvious if I was jiji
06:03:12: <Brawler4Ever> either*
06:03:19: <Brawler4Ever> yeah
06:03:20: <fank009> I would have claimed outright D1
06:03:23: <Brawler4Ever> you would have sent the pm
06:03:29: <Brawler4Ever> or that
06:03:31: <fank009> that too
06:03:34: <Brawler4Ever> lol
06:03:52: <fank009> but who should I target
06:03:56: <fank009> just humour me
06:04:06: <Brawler4Ever> if you're guardian, wait until next Night
06:04:08: <fank009> not knowing what I have
06:04:18: <Brawler4Ever> to defend the Seer, but that's just my opinion
06:04:38: <Brawler4Ever> I don't believe that anybody should be vigi'd
06:04:51: <Brawler4Ever> we have at least one wolf pretty much cornered
06:05:00: <Brawler4Ever> in the green group of 5
06:05:13: <fank009> please
06:05:14: <Brawler4Ever> there's a 75% chance that the wolf will claim the same as somebody else
06:05:16: <fank009> thats not conrnered
06:05:23: <fank009> 75% chance?
06:05:26: <Brawler4Ever> yes
06:05:29: <Brawler4Ever> 4 green spots
06:05:35: <Brawler4Ever> one was latios'
06:05:36: <fank009> im putting it at 100
06:05:48: <Brawler4Ever> ok
06:05:50: <Brawler4Ever> 100%
06:06:02: <Brawler4Ever> he claims, we See one or lynch/vigi both
06:06:06: <fank009> actually,
06:06:08: <fank009> yeah...
06:06:11: <Brawler4Ever> it's a 1 for 1 trade that goes in our favor
06:06:25: <fank009> it is less than 100..
06:06:32: <fank009> because we dont know latios's mon
06:06:37: <Brawler4Ever> exctly
06:06:40: <Brawler4Ever> there's a chance
06:06:46: <fank009> yeah
06:06:50: <fank009> but its risky...
06:06:51: <Brawler4Ever> that the wolf will get lucky and not have a counter claim
06:06:57: <fank009> ^
06:06:59: <Brawler4Ever> do they have a choice at this point?
06:07:16: <fank009> ^
06:07:39: <Brawler4Ever> I would call that cornered
06:07:42: <fank009> as much as claiming is a brand all brilliant idea...
06:07:56: <fank009> if I could access youtube right now...
06:08:08: <fank009> I'd post a link of pursuit from Ace attorney as a gag xD
06:08:17: <Brawler4Ever> lol
06:08:22: <fank009> anyway
06:08:28: <fank009> claiming is a brilliant idea...
06:08:30: <fank009> the catch
06:08:36: <fank009> do people actually trust enough
06:08:40: <fank009> to claim
06:08:59: <fank009> I prolly wont claim until the other blue role claims
06:09:19: <Brawler4Ever> I don't know what I am
06:09:21: <fank009> but I really doubt it.
06:09:26: <fank009> ^I know
06:09:28: <Brawler4Ever> but I can't see why I wouldn't just claim immediately
06:09:28: <fank009> :/
06:09:48: <fank009> well... think about
06:09:54: <fank009> who are wolves going to wolf?
06:10:04: <Brawler4Ever> I see 2 routes
06:10:11: <Brawler4Ever> one comes from the green wolf
06:10:25: <Brawler4Ever> panicking about their position, killing another green to reduce the chance of a coutner claim
06:10:30: <Brawler4Ever> and buying time for themselves
06:10:38: <Brawler4Ever> the other is more risky, but more potential
06:10:42: <Brawler4Ever> they go after one of the blues
06:10:46: <fank009> ....
06:11:27: <Brawler4Ever> I believe taht we have a wolf pretty much cornered
06:11:33: <fank009> ...
06:11:38: <fank009> yeah
06:11:40: <fank009> in the blues
06:11:47: <Brawler4Ever> that also
06:11:57: <fank009> Q
06:11:59: <Brawler4Ever> assuming that both wolves didn't claim green
06:12:12: <fank009> which fool didnt claim green?
06:12:18: <fank009> olimar? xD
06:12:20: <Brawler4Ever> lol
06:12:23: <Brawler4Ever> I could see that
06:12:25: <Brawler4Ever> honestly
06:12:30: <Brawler4Ever> although i was thinking he was Jiji
06:12:34: <Brawler4Ever> but I'm not sure
06:12:40: <fank009> jiji sounds about right
06:12:54: <fank009> the only gain they have...
06:13:02: <fank009> from lynching a green (wolves)
06:13:20: <fank009> is that they have a 50% chance of turning 1/2 into 1/3
06:13:38: <fank009> instead of it being a 25% chance - claiming
06:14:02: <Brawler4Ever> yeah
06:14:10: <fank009> :/
06:14:11: <fank009> sometimes
06:14:16: <fank009> I wish noct would not speak
06:14:21: <Brawler4Ever> LOL
06:14:23: <fank009> because all the idiots speak afterwards :/
06:14:24: <Brawler4Ever> so true
06:14:31: <fank009> well
06:14:36: <fank009> no offence meant at everyone else
06:14:45: <Brawler4Ever> none taken
06:14:46: <fank009> it feels like whenever noct/FA speaks
06:14:58: <fank009> everyone speaks up putting there two cents in when its not needed
06:15:16: <fank009> but yeah
06:15:30: <fank009> I'm not claiming unless the other blue feels ballsy
06:16:04: <fank009> it would be a waste really if I claim, and am the only blue to claim, yeah we still get cc's but we lose my power
06:16:17: <fank009> and it would be a crying shame of a waste
06:16:52: <Brawler4Ever> i'm fairly certain that all of the greens will claim
06:16:59: <Brawler4Ever> either to the thread or to Bubbles, at least
06:17:14: <fank009> bubbles is a safe claim for now...
06:17:19: <fank009> so lets recap what we know...
06:17:32: <fank009> 7 players are going to digivolve tomorrow
06:17:40: <Brawler4Ever> yep
06:18:02: <Brawler4Ever> we have 3 living green Rookie Digimon
06:18:10: <Brawler4Ever> which means that one slot is empty
06:18:34: <Brawler4Ever> It is likely that one wolf will claim to be an original blue
06:18:58: <Brawler4Ever> because they (possibly) did not claim green before
06:18:59: <fank009> ...
06:19:09: <fank009> pokes pm
06:19:14: <Brawler4Ever> it's a weak chance
06:26:53: <fank009> hmmm
06:27:37: <fank009> ...
06:27:48: <fank009> do you think anyone who dies now will go inactive?
06:27:56: <fank009> *pokes bubbles post*
06:28:19: <Brawler4Ever> people are already inactive
06:28:25: <Brawler4Ever> and they're basically immortal
06:28:51: <fank009> ... arent we all?
06:28:56: <fank009> in a sense
06:29:00: <Brawler4Ever> having a lack of fear of death doesn't make people active
06:29:01: <fank009> but those that arent are...
06:29:02: <Brawler4Ever> right
06:29:17: <Brawler4Ever> we don't know who Jiji is
06:29:20: <Brawler4Ever> not yet, anyway
06:29:20: <fank009> not enough chaos eh?
06:29:25: <fank009> we know who jiji isnt...
06:29:35: <Brawler4Ever> Next phase, there will be chaos xD
06:29:54: <fank009> ...
06:30:28: <fank009> only a wolf says there will be chaos next phase with the fact that there is so little that needs to be done.
06:31:13: <fank009> ...
06:31:21: <Brawler4Ever> depends on your definition of chaos
06:31:25: <fank009> yeah,
06:31:37: <Brawler4Ever> D1 was pretty hectic
06:31:44: <fank009> not really...
06:31:46: <Brawler4Ever> N1 and N2? Not nearly as much
06:31:56: <fank009> it was pretty organized actually
06:32:16: <Brawler4Ever> like I said, different definitions of chaos
06:33:41: <Brawler4Ever> What I mean is that we didn't have a clear lynch target until halfway into the second day
06:33:53: <fank009> ...
06:33:58: <fank009> latios was a clear lynch...
06:34:05: <fank009> bubbles was just a better lynch
06:34:30: <Brawler4Ever> I'm not arguing with that
06:41:23: <Brawler4Ever> I'm going to bed
06:41:35: <Brawler4Ever> hopefully I'll have more success than last night
06:41:39: <Brawler4Ever> good night!

[close]

[davy]

TWG LXXXII: File Island

Spoiler

In this game the color of a player's role is always representive for his team (in which wolves are red and humans are green and blue. Green humans are told they are a data digimon).

In-Training Digimon:

Koromon
Tsunomon
Tokomon
Tanemon

Rookie Digimon:

Agumon (Digivolves from Koromon, vigi, cannot vigi during the first night phase since he has digivolved into this role, and cannot vigi during the first night phase of the game.)
Gabumon (Digivolves from Koromon)
Elecmon (Digivolves from Tsunomon)
Penguinmon (Digivolves from Tsunomon)
Patamon (Digivolves from Tokomon)
Biyomon (Digivolves from Tokomon, guardian, if he guards a player, he cannot use his powers during the next night phase if he is still Biyomon.)
Palmon (Digivolves from Tanemon, Whenever he dies, the player that caused his death, or the player that voted for him last cannot activate his power untill two phases after he died).
Betamon (Digivolves from Tanemon, a normal wolf)
Kunemon (Any In-Training digimon digivolving at the end of the Day phase has a 50% chance of digivolving into Kunemon, a normal wolf)

Champion Digimon

Greymon (Digivolves from Agumon, vigi)
Garurumon (Digivolves from Gabumon, whenever he is targeted by a power, there is a 25% chance that the power won't work and the player who targeted him will die)
Leomon (Digivolves from Elecmon, Can send the host a name of a player during the night phase and that players power will be negated untill the beginning of the next night phase. If he does, he cannot activate his power during the next night phase.)
Shellmon (Digivolves from Penguinmon)
Angemon (Digivolves from Patamon, seer)
Birdramon (Digivolves from Biyomon, Guardian)
Vegiemon (Digivolves from Palmon, Whenever he dies, the player that caused his death, or the player that voted for him last cannot activate his power untill two phases after he died).
Seadramon (Digivolves from Betamon, Charismatic wolf, vote counts for 2)
Kuwagamon (Digivolves from Kunemon, wolf psychic (is told the number of blues currently in the game at the end of the night phase).
Numemon (Any rookie digimon that has at least been reborn once will have a 5% chance of digivolving into Numemon, is told he is a Data Digimon)
Sukamon (Any rookie digimon that has at least been reborn once will have a 5% chance of digivolving into Sukamon, is told he is a Data Digimon. If Sukamon knows he is a Sukamon, he can PM the host to turn him back into his Rookie form. If the host receives such a PM while the player sending it is not Sukamon, the host is allowed to tell that player that he or she is not Sukamon.)
Nanimon (Any rookie digimon that has at least been reborn once will have a 5% chance of digivolving into Nanimon, is told he is a Data Digimon)

Ultimate Digimon

MetalGreymon (Digivolves from Greymon, wolf vigi)
WereGarurumon (Digivolves form Garurumon, Whenever he is targeted by a power, that power will be negated and WereGarurumon will use that power against the player that targeted him instead. However, he cannot post in the tread, nor vote, nor PM, nor be able to speak in the chat. After four phases he'll die and always (even if Jijimon is dead) be reborn as an In-Training digimon)
Mamemon (Digivolves from Leomon. Can PM the host in order to be modified)
MetalMamemon (Has a 50% chance of being modified from Mamemon, can target one player each night phase, that player's power cannot be activated untill the next day phase)
Giromon (Has a 50% chance of being modified from Mamemon, whenever he is targeted by a power, that power will fail and that player will lose his power untill he digivolves or dies).
Andromon (Digivolves from Angemon, role seer, instead of recieving the color of the player he seer'd he recieves the role of the player he seer'd).
Devimon (An Angemon that dies has a 50% of being reborn as a Devimon, wolf shaman)
Phoenixmon (Digivolves from Birdramon, Double Guardian (Can guard two players during the night phase)
Megaseadramon (Digivolves from Seadramon, vote counts for 3)
HerculesKabuterimon (Digivolves from Kuwagamon, is told the role names of all the blues currently in the game at the end of each night phase).
Monzaemon (Digivolves from Numemon, Is told the role of any player who dies, and any role they become after dying.)
Etemon (Digivolves from Sukamon, at the beginning of each night phase, he will be told the name of a current wolf).
Digitamamon (Digivolves from Nanimon)
Vademon (Any Champion Digimon digivolving has a 10% chance of digivolving into Vademon, a normal wolf)

Mega Digimon

Machinedramon (Digivolves from Digitamamon, wolf vigi, can vigi up to 2 times per night phase)
Jijimon (Does not digivolve, as long as he is alive any digimon that dies (exept for himself) will be reborn as a random In-Training digimon (this power cannot be negated). Any living player may PM Jijimon if they want to be immidiately reborn, together with the digimon the want to be reborn into. If Jijimon recieves such a PM he may forward it to the host to grant such a request. Jijimon may do so once per two phases.)


The game will start with the following players:

Agumon
Gabumon
Elecmon
Penguinmon
Patamon
Biyomon
Palmon
Betamon
Kunemon
Jijimon

Wolves do not know eachother.
If multiple wolfings are sent, then the first one will take place.

This game will use card flipping.

If a player dies and is reborn, it will be posted in the end of the phase update.
If a player survived an attempt to kill, that will be posted in the end of the phase update as well.
If a player dies, the cause of death will not be posted in the end of the phase update.


DIGIVOLVING

After being an In-Training digimon for one phase you will digivolve into a Rookie digimon.
After being a Rookie digimon for 3 phases you will digivolve into a Champion digimon.
After being a Champion digimon for 5 phases you will digivolve into an Ultimate digimon.
After being a Digitamamon for 5 phases you will digivole into Machindramon.

In-Training digimon have 2 digivolved forms. They have a 50% chance of digivolving in eighter of them (25% when digivolving at the end of the day phase, because then there is a 50% chance of digivolving into Kunemon).
The chance of digivolving into a digimon whose description says: (Digivolves from: ...) is equal to 100%-(the chance of digivolving into any other digimon possible).


Wolves win when all players still alive in game are Wolves
Humans win when there are no wolves at the start and the end of the same night phase.


Players may not make any action that will hurt their current team. If any player makes an action that might hurt/seems to be hurting his or her team that player should PM me the reason for doing so. I may request such a PM for any action at any time.

Obviously, this doesn't count for Numemon, Sukamon and Nanimon, because they don't know on which team they are.

[close]

1. Olimar12345
2. Latios212
3. Fank009
4. Brawler4Ever
5. BlackDragonSlayer
6. Dudeman
7. FireArrow
8. Dude
9. NocturneOfShadow
10. Bubbles

Replacements:
1 mariolegofan

FireArrow and NocturneOfShadow died. They were both green. Latios212, FireArrow and NocturneOfShadow have been reborn. It's now day 2. Day 2 will end July 31th 4:00AM PST/5:00AM MST/6:00AM CST/7:00AM EST/1:00PM CET/August 1st 12AM in New Zealand

[fank009]

Latios212 has been reborn.

W.... T... WHAT???!!!???

since when was it a good idea to be reborn in the night???
LATIOS WAS CLEAN!!!???!!!

well, -lies

Also in other news, good job vig. kill a potential seer to kill the starter reds faster. good idea. too bad it wont help us in attrition

[Latios212]

JIJI WHAT DID YOU DO??? AAAAUUUUGGGH

[Brawler4Ever]

Well... That just happened...

Yup, it means one of the following is a wolf:

Noc, brawler, FA, Latios, Dudeman

The good news with this turn of events is that we've narrowed down the wolf to two targets: me and Dudeman. The bad news is that even a counter-claim would be pretty much redundant right now. I'm Leomon. But that's not nearly as helpful as it would have been to know that last phase. I'm voting on Dudeman until we know what the crap we're going to do.

My question: Can we go forward with the plan to kill Jiji with 3-50% potential wolves looming over us? Because, this is just about worst case scenario no matter how you look at it. And I'm not sure if taking the time to re-lynch or re-vigi each of them would help. Although, it might just be our best choice right now.

[Dude]

OK yeah I don't like this game, so I'm gonna claim.

Ok, guy here's the plan:
Jijimon, don't forward the PM to davy until the night phase.

I only read this far so excuuuuuuuse me.

Also Dude

[Brawler4Ever]

"Immediately reborn" confused me. Jijimon will just have to forward the PM this phase then.

2 lines of text below the one that you quoted.

I'm holding off on my vote until we have an actual plan (Although they haven't been very successful so far...). Remove my vote. My question still stands:

Can we go forward with the plan to kill Jiji with 3-50% potential wolves looming over us?

[mikey]

Brawler4Ever

[Dudeman]

Crap guys, I digivolved into a data digimon. It's likely that I'm a wolf now. :/

[Brawler4Ever]

Crap guys, I digivolved into a data digimon. It's likely that I'm a wolf now. :/

You would be shellmon, then, if that were the case. You can't digivolve into a wolf as a Rookie that hasn't died yet. -_-

Shellmon (Digivolves from Penguinmon)

Vegiemon (Digivolves from Palmon, Whenever he dies, the player that caused his death, or the player that voted for him last cannot activate his power untill two phases after he died).
Seadramon (Digivolves from Betamon, Charismatic wolf, vote counts for 2)
Kuwagamon (Digivolves from Kunemon, wolf psychic (is told the number of blues currently in the game at the end of the night phase).
Numemon (Any rookie digimon that has at least been reborn once will have a 5% chance of digivolving into Numemon, is told he is a Data Digimon)
Sukamon (Any rookie digimon that has at least been reborn once will have a 5% chance of digivolving into Sukamon, is told he is a Data Digimon. If Sukamon knows he is a Sukamon, he can PM the host to turn him back into his Rookie form. If the host receives such a PM while the player sending it is not Sukamon, the host is allowed to tell that player that he or she is not Sukamon.)
Nanimon (Any rookie digimon that has at least been reborn once will have a 5% chance of digivolving into Nanimon, is told he is a Data Digimon)

Vademon is an Ultimate Digimon, so you can't be him either. A Rookie human can't digivolve into a Champion wolf without being reborn. So your comment that you are a wolf due to being a Champion Data Digimon makes no sense in your context. But good job with the offer to sacrifice yourself, considering the circumstances.

[Dudeman]

Lol, I keep forgetting about having to die first. Sorry.

[fank009]

Hhmmmm who to lynch... dude or brawler, I think with vig we can go Dude

[mikey]

oh yeah I died so I want mlf to replace me
also Dude

BDS, make sure to hit brawler tomorrow night

[Dudeman]

I don't want to kill off Jiji just yet until we figure out if it's a good idea. There's three potential wolves out there, plus the ones that have been around since the first phase. Can someone crunch some numbers?