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TWG LXXXII: File Island

Started by davy, July 25, 2015, 03:44:57 AM

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FireArrow

Quote from: Dude on July 26, 2015, 09:54:34 PMAlso, couldn't you send a pm to everyone about being reborn? One of them is bound to be jiji, right?

Actually that's a really good plan :3
Quote from: Dudeman on January 23, 2017, 05:35:59 PM
straight from the department of redundancy department

FireArrow

If you die PM every player to become an in-training digimon that isn't Tuneman.
Quote from: Dudeman on January 23, 2017, 05:35:59 PM
straight from the department of redundancy department

FireArrow

Quote from: Dudeman on January 23, 2017, 05:35:59 PM
straight from the department of redundancy department

davy

Quote from: Latios212 on July 26, 2015, 07:04:08 PMIs there a restriction on the type of Digimon someone can request to be born into?

You can only be reborn into an In-Training Digimon.

On another note, after thinking about Jijimon a bit more, I have decided that he can only forward a reborn PM once per two phases. I'll update the OP.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow
[davy]'s in a way different time zone so basically he pops in at like 2 AM and posts 500 words and wins the game

fank009

logs from earlier
03:06:36: <fank009> or not...
03:06:41: <Latios> hi
03:06:42: <fank009> guessed I timed out
03:06:43: <fank009> hey
03:06:43: <Brawler4Ever> hey
03:06:45: <fank009> so
03:06:56: <fank009> thoughts on FA/Noct/BDDS
03:07:07: <Brawler4Ever> arguing about nothing, imo
03:07:08: <Latios> BDS seems kinda suspicious
03:07:13: <Latios> but yeah that^
03:07:16: <Brawler4Ever> but I'm not exactly an expert at finding wolves
03:07:34: <fank009> I think this post describes the situation the best...
03:07:54: <fank009> http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=7325.msg299367#msg299367
03:08:08: <fank009> Noct / Fa/BDS are on different sides of the line...
03:08:27: <fank009> I think the only reason why my name isnt being chucked around (yet) is because I
03:08:29: <Brawler4Ever> i noticed that you're not a fan of FA :P
03:08:35: <fank009> I'm "respected"
03:08:46: <Brawler4Ever> my question is why do you want to kill jijimon?
03:08:49: <fank009> not necesarily not a fan of FA
03:08:55: <fank009> simple
03:08:58: <Latios> guys I have to go now...
03:08:59: <Latios> bad timing
03:09:02: <fank009> it comes down to the fact that we have a vig
03:09:03: <Brawler4Ever> np cya
03:09:07: <Latios> Seeya.
03:09:26: <Brawler4Ever> true, we have a vigi
03:09:28: <fank009> Vig kill and wolf kill means there are 2 people who can potentially revive as wolves
03:09:29: <Brawler4Ever> but not forever
03:09:39: <fank009> we have it long enough...
03:09:54: <fank009> if jiji is still alive at day 3, we are in trouble
03:10:21: <Brawler4Ever> yeah, noc suggested that we have a mass role reveal on Day 3
03:10:36: <Brawler4Ever> to smoke out the wolves
03:10:53: <fank009> maybe...
03:11:50: <Brawler4Ever> the way I see it, we win a war of attrition
03:12:00: <Brawler4Ever> but I'm not sure
03:12:05: <Brawler4Ever> what with all of the role changes later
03:12:13: <fank009> so...
03:13:21: <Brawler4Ever> ?
03:13:38: <fank009> ...
03:13:47: <fank009> just thinking...
03:13:52: <Brawler4Ever> ok
03:13:58: <Brawler4Ever> thought you had a question or something :P
03:14:02: <Brawler4Ever> I'm rereading the OP
03:14:05: <Brawler4Ever> for the millionth time
03:14:14: <fank009> xD
03:15:29: <Brawler4Ever> im thinking about gabumon
03:15:38: <Brawler4Ever> and garurrumon, in extension
03:16:48: <Brawler4Ever> i almost feel like his power is a detriment to the humans
03:16:50: <fank009> like I said
03:16:56: <fank009> ...
03:16:58: <fank009> you think?
03:16:59: <fank009> depends
03:17:08: <fank009> I think its more a detriment to wolves
03:17:16: <Brawler4Ever> there are 3 wolves that can target people
03:17:20: <fank009> by the time everyone hits that stage of the game
03:17:31: <fank009> ...
03:17:34: <Brawler4Ever> wargreymon, devimon, and machinedramon
03:17:38: <fank009> don't forget wolfings and votes
03:17:47: <Brawler4Ever> do those count?
03:18:01: <Brawler4Ever> I wasn't sure if they did or not
03:18:19: <fank009> wait...
03:18:24: <fank009> maybe you're right
03:18:31: <Brawler4Ever> are they considered powers?
03:18:57: <fank009> dunno, thats worth a q
03:19:24: <Brawler4Ever> do you want to ask davy, or should I?
03:19:53: <fank009> Either or,
03:19:59: <fank009> send it via pm though...
03:20:06: <fank009> might get ya shot at night
03:20:26: <fank009> also, thoughts on what I sent ya?
03:20:28: <Brawler4Ever> yeah i'm sending it right now
03:21:51: <Brawler4Ever> what?
03:22:23: <Brawler4Ever> sent me what?
03:22:50: <fank009> what you using for chat? I sent ya something in private...
03:23:04: <Brawler4Ever> lol
03:23:05: <Brawler4Ever> i see it
03:23:13: <Brawler4Ever> i didn't even see it though
03:37:28: <fank009> so
03:37:31: <fank009> Jiji or blues
03:37:36: <fank009> take your pick
03:38:53: <Brawler4Ever> no idea :/
03:41:08: <Latios> what are you guys talking about
03:41:23: <fank009> about wether to lynch you or not
03:41:36: <Latios> Why wouldn't we?
03:41:45: <Brawler4Ever> because it's a wild goose chase
03:41:50: <fank009> because of the matter of timing...
03:41:53: <Brawler4Ever> especially if the vigi is active
03:41:59: <fank009> not necesarily a wild goose chase...
03:42:04: <fank009> there is merit to it...
03:42:11: <fank009> but the q comes down to psychology...
03:42:17: <fank009> if people think they are a human...
03:42:32: <Brawler4Ever> they'll act human
03:42:35: <Brawler4Ever> but then rapidly change
03:42:37: <fank009> they would play for a human win... regardless if they are actually a wolf or not
03:42:42: <Brawler4Ever> their history means nothing
03:42:49: <fank009> especially tanemon and that crew
03:42:52: <fank009> wait...
03:42:57: <fank009> so many mons
03:43:01: <Brawler4Ever> lol
03:43:04: <fank009> you know which ones im talking about
03:43:11: <Brawler4Ever> even latios wouldn't be completely safe
03:43:13: <Brawler4Ever> yeah
03:43:26: <Brawler4Ever> tanemon is 100% wolf after 1 phase
03:43:56: <Latios> what's your point
03:44:12: <Brawler4Ever> lynching you won't help
03:44:17: <Brawler4Ever> we need to kill the wolves now
03:44:23: <fank009> that too...
03:44:23: <Brawler4Ever> because they'll outnumber us later
03:44:41: <fank009> (which is why lynch latios in the beginning...)
03:44:48: <fank009> the thing is...
03:44:59: <fank009> you won't know your aleigance till day 3
03:45:02: <Brawler4Ever> there's no way that we can keep up with it in the long run
03:45:03: <fank009> or longer
03:45:06: <fank009> yeah...
03:45:09: <Brawler4Ever> he might be tanemon anyway
03:45:12: <fank009> Thats my point
03:45:19: <Latios> wait so fank... you still want to lynch me?
03:45:21: <Brawler4Ever> 25% at a 100% of being a wolf
03:45:21: <fank009> as to why we need to kill jiji
03:45:35: <Brawler4Ever> we're discussing it
03:45:43: <Brawler4Ever> pros and cons
03:45:47: <fank009> Im still in favour...
03:45:53: <Latios> Same here
03:45:55: <Latios> if I may ask for a moment
03:45:56: <Latios> why do we need to kill jiji
03:46:21: <Brawler4Ever> because of all of the potential wolves that come from being reborn
03:46:25: <fank009> ^
03:46:36: <fank009> 2-1 shots
03:46:39: <Brawler4Ever> 15% after 2 Days/2 Nights
03:46:40: <fank009> 2 shots at night...
03:46:45: <Brawler4Ever> on top of a 25% chance overall
03:46:58: <Latios> :/
03:47:00: <Latios> uh....
03:47:06: <fank009> at ~70% of being a wolf within 3 phases
03:47:25: <Brawler4Ever> add every lynch, wolf, and vigi together
03:47:27: <Latios> I see....
03:47:35: <Brawler4Ever> and at least a few will be wolves later on
03:47:38: <fank009> lynch is in our favour...
03:47:41: <Brawler4Ever> I'm not sold on the idea
03:47:46: <fank009> where we only get a 25% chance
03:47:50: <Brawler4Ever> I'm just presenting info atm
03:47:55: <fank009> ^
03:48:03: <Latios> I see the point you're trying to make
03:48:12: <Latios> respawning everyone does have its problems
03:48:13: <fank009> theres some things that I want...
03:48:44: <Latios> like?
03:49:15: <fank009> the thing about this game is that you can sometimes manipulate people to do exactly what you want.
03:49:48: <Brawler4Ever> like killing jijimon? xD
03:50:05: <fank009> xD
03:50:05: <Latios> ^
03:50:36: <Brawler4Ever> I didn't know about the 3 5% wolf chances before
03:50:44: <Brawler4Ever> when I said that we would win a war of attrition
03:50:56: <Brawler4Ever> so now I'm not sure :/
03:51:34: <Latios> me neither...
03:52:09: <Brawler4Ever> ...
03:53:03: <Brawler4Ever> latios, do you know if wolfing counts as a power?
03:53:12: <fank009> The worse thing...
03:53:21: <fank009> in my opinion
03:53:24: <Latios> "power" in what sense
03:53:34: <Brawler4Ever> garurumon
03:53:44: <Brawler4Ever> has a 25% chance at killing someone that targets him
03:53:56: <Latios> probably counts
03:54:04: <Brawler4Ever> if that includes wolfing, then that's fine
03:54:15: <Brawler4Ever> if not, I think that would be more detrimental than helpful
03:54:21: <Brawler4Ever> still waiting on a reply from davy
03:54:38: <Brawler4Ever> what were you saying fank?
03:55:11: <fank009> is how much time delay there is till greens know wether they are blue or red
03:55:29: <Brawler4Ever> I would assume as soon as the Day/Night is over
03:55:37: <Brawler4Ever> and whenever davy gets around to everybody
03:55:39: <Latios> probably
03:55:54: <Latios> ... guys I'm exhausted
03:55:58: <Latios> I'm out for tonight xD
03:55:59: <Brawler4Ever> lol
03:56:01: <Brawler4Ever> np
03:56:06: <Brawler4Ever> cya
03:56:06: <Latios> my brain
03:56:09: <Latios> aaaaagh
03:56:10: <fank009> sometehing to look forward to I guess maybe?
03:56:11: <Latios> Bye! ^^
03:56:19: <Latios> Yes, I can't wait to die again
03:56:46: <Brawler4Ever> if not latios, then whom?
03:56:52: <Brawler4Ever> lynching, I mean
03:57:05: <fank009> hmmm
03:57:09: <fank009> You know...
03:57:14: <fank009> Just thought of something...
03:58:38: <Brawler4Ever> I'm thinking maybe BDS
03:58:45: <fank009> nah...
03:58:46: <Brawler4Ever> he seems like he has a quick trigger finger
03:58:55: <fank009> BDS is always got a trigger finger
03:59:15: <fank009> the thing about being the middle of noct/BDS is that they both look like they are playing normally
03:59:16: <Brawler4Ever> really? nvm then. xP
03:59:23: <fank009> and wanting to lynch normally to at that :/
03:59:25: <fank009> mind you
03:59:30: <Brawler4Ever> yeah
03:59:36: <fank009> sometimes I find it hard to read.
03:59:38: <Brawler4Ever> noc is acting the exact same way as last game
03:59:48: <Brawler4Ever> but then again, so was Dude as far as I can tell
03:59:52: <Brawler4Ever> and he was a wolf
04:11:03: <fank009> I just cant hunt wolves properly with jiji around :/
04:11:23: <fank009> well I can find the starters but good luck with that
04:11:36: <fank009> a huge cycle of time delays and what not
04:13:07: <fank009> sorry got disconnected for a moment there...
04:13:50: <Brawler4Ever> np
04:14:28: <fank009> you watch doctor who?
04:14:37: <fank009> seen the 6th season finale?
04:14:39: <Brawler4Ever> no, sory
04:14:41: <fank009> :/
04:14:41: <Brawler4Ever> sorry*
04:14:43: <fank009> anyway...
04:14:45: <Brawler4Ever> i tried
04:14:47: <fank009> so the 6th season finale
04:14:53: <Brawler4Ever> it's just too British for me :P
04:15:06: <Brawler4Ever> jk
04:15:21: <fank009> is about the doctor having to face his destiny and die so that time can continue
04:15:32: <Brawler4Ever> wow
04:15:35: <fank009> it feels like jijis presence is causing time to stand still
04:15:35: <Brawler4Ever> that's intense
04:15:43: <Brawler4Ever> lol
04:15:54: <fank009> thats my thoughts anyway
04:15:58: <fank009> like I said
04:16:03: <Brawler4Ever> how do they come up with this stuff?
04:16:16: <fank009> i don't like that time delay mechanic
04:16:26: <fank009> I think it keeps everything in check
04:16:33: <fank009> maybe wolves do need jiji dead...
04:16:42: <fank009> but I dont think attrition will do anything
04:16:49: <fank009> especially with 2-1 deaths
04:16:52: <Brawler4Ever> where wolve don't know that they're wolves during the training phase?
04:17:24: <Brawler4Ever> what do you mean by "time delay mechanic?"
04:18:51: <fank009> the idea of waiting 3 phases to know wether you are a wolf or not...
04:19:18: <Brawler4Ever> ok that's what I though
04:19:20: <Brawler4Ever> thought*
04:19:50: <fank009> I think I'd go crazy at that thought ~shudders
04:19:55: <Brawler4Ever> i said the same thing to latios
04:20:01: <Brawler4Ever> about being reborn
04:20:03: <fank009> better say stuff that wont get wolfs to lynch me xD
04:20:12: <Brawler4Ever> but it doesn't explicitly say which digimon someone could become
04:20:33: <fank009> At what phase specifically?
04:20:37: <fank009> IT phase?
04:20:49: <Brawler4Ever> they're just told that they're green
04:20:58: <Brawler4Ever> or a data digimon, to be specific
04:21:14: <Brawler4Ever> it's after one phase that they may receive a role
04:21:16: <fank009> I think at that stage...
04:21:20: <fank009> its 75%
04:21:21: <Brawler4Ever> or become another data digimon
04:21:25: <fank009> wait
04:21:35: <fank009> 85%?
04:21:54: <fank009> all this math :/
04:22:02: <fank009> especially since I love math
04:22:04: <Brawler4Ever> yep :/
04:22:07: <Brawler4Ever> same here
04:22:10: <Brawler4Ever> but this is just crazy
04:22:11: <Brawler4Ever> lol
04:22:27: <Brawler4Ever> looking at tanemon
04:22:34: <Brawler4Ever> i'm not sure if it's a 100% wolf chance
04:22:41: <Brawler4Ever> because of palmon
04:22:55: <fank009> palmon to vegiemon
04:23:02: <fank009> 100% wolf
04:23:05: <Brawler4Ever> oh
04:23:06: <Brawler4Ever> yep
04:23:09: <Brawler4Ever> 100% wolf
04:23:11: <Brawler4Ever> nvm :P
04:23:54: <Brawler4Ever> in the long run, tanemon and kokomon are 100% wolf
04:24:21: <Brawler4Ever> toko is 50% if he's killed as Angemon
04:24:38: <fank009> i thought birdmon wasnt a wolf?
04:24:41: <fank009> ha...
04:24:54: <fank009> Day 1 and we are still discussing the same things
04:24:59: <fank009> just let the dice role I guess...
04:25:01: <Brawler4Ever> lol
04:25:10: <Brawler4Ever> i'm pretty close to saying that as well
04:25:14: <Brawler4Ever> just let RNG take over
04:25:17: <Brawler4Ever> and pray
04:25:39: <Brawler4Ever> but I don't think that's as fun :/
04:25:43: <fank009> ...
04:25:52: <fank009> I think the rng...
04:26:01: <fank009> is to wether how many wolf roles there are...
04:26:27: <fank009> anyway
04:26:43: <fank009> I think I'll just let the latios lynch go this phase...
04:26:52: <fank009> see if anyone brings up something nice...
04:26:57: <fank009> and then go from there.
04:27:04: <Brawler4Ever> same
04:27:10: <Brawler4Ever> I don't have any leads atm :/
04:27:18: <fank009> we'll have a few
04:27:45: <fank009> I still want jijimon dead because of vig...
04:28:46: <Brawler4Ever> I'm not confident with the idea of lynching jiji
04:28:59: <Brawler4Ever> but, I'm not confident about leaving him alive either
04:29:04: <Brawler4Ever> too many things to consider
04:29:11: <fank009> ...
04:29:16: <fank009> I wouldnt lynch him
04:29:22: <fank009> but Im pretty sure...
04:29:26: <Brawler4Ever> oh, have the vigi do it?
04:29:27: <fank009> 9/10 wolves would kill him
04:29:46: <Brawler4Ever> it's a 1/8 chance currently. I think?
04:30:05: <Brawler4Ever> 10 players - the wolf - latios = 8
04:30:06: <fank009> ?
04:30:15: <Brawler4Ever> for them to successfully wolf jiji
04:30:21: <fank009> i think 1/8 sounds good...
04:30:28: <fank009> mind you,
04:30:32: <fank009> hunting for jiji,
04:30:41: <fank009> latios was a stupid kill...
04:30:52: <Brawler4Ever> it buys us time
04:30:59: <Brawler4Ever> that was the whole intent
04:31:00: <fank009> http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=7325.msg299240#msg299240
04:31:14: <fank009> (wolf killing latios
04:31:35: <Brawler4Ever> what?
04:31:54: <fank009> some things you can tell...
04:32:36: <fank009> anyone but jiji would know they would be guaranteed there next phase
04:32:47: <fank009> so hence, latios couldnt be jiji
04:33:24: <Brawler4Ever> I would see it as latios not believing that he wouldn't be wolfed first
04:33:32: <Brawler4Ever> but maybe that's just my inexperience talking
04:33:43: <fank009> maybe...
04:33:45: <Brawler4Ever> not believing that he would* be wolfed first
04:34:46: <Brawler4Ever> it is a very specific, confident post though
04:34:56: <Brawler4Ever> but I don't see what more we can gather from it
04:35:44: <fank009> we can gather that a wolf does is not that good a reader of posts?
04:35:59: <fank009> maybe I'm looking into things too much
04:36:00: <Brawler4Ever> possibly
04:36:11: <fank009> having a look at BDS's posts... he's posting one liners...
04:36:18: <Brawler4Ever> but basically everybody has questions about the OP
04:36:22: <fank009> trying to think when was the last time he posted one liners
04:36:27: <fank009> that too
04:36:35: <Brawler4Ever> he did that last game a lot, from what I can remember
04:36:40: <Brawler4Ever> he wasn't very active
04:36:52: <fank009> change in circumstances I guess...
04:37:01: <Brawler4Ever> but I'm not sure about his role; Mashi believed he was the vigi
04:37:05: <fank009> mind you we still don't know roles from that game?
04:37:09: <fank009> eh,
04:37:13: <Brawler4Ever> yeah
04:37:15: <Brawler4Ever> I know :/
04:37:18: <fank009> knowing BDS he was a wolf with that setup...
04:37:27: <fank009> considering how quick it was.
04:37:31: <fank009> mind you,
04:37:35: <Brawler4Ever> that would be very helpful
04:37:35: <fank009> BDS is like that...
04:37:39: <fank009> thing is,
04:37:41: <Brawler4Ever> to know all of the roles from last game
04:37:42: <fank009> against my meta...
04:37:49: <fank009> You never would have lynched noct.
04:37:58: <Brawler4Ever> nope
04:38:11: <Brawler4Ever> he only accused me because I "sided" with BDS
04:38:15: <fank009> (well my meta of "x should be vigged")
04:38:17: <Brawler4Ever> made no sense to me
04:38:25: <Brawler4Ever> I thought that was a joke :P
04:38:31: <fank009> somewhat...
04:38:36: <Brawler4Ever> I KNEW IT
04:38:41: <fank009> but its more of a people I would like dead...
04:38:50: <fank009> you half take it with a grain of salt
04:38:55: <Brawler4Ever> lol
04:38:57: <fank009> more indicative of humans than wolves though
04:39:10: <fank009> its just a list of people that would be helpful dead...
04:39:16: <fank009> and not worth lynching after.
04:39:26: <Brawler4Ever> i lynched him for other reasons
04:39:37: <Brawler4Ever> i believed that he was trying to manipulate a lynch against me
04:39:48: <Brawler4Ever> on very strange evidence
04:39:55: <Brawler4Ever> so I thought that he was a wolf :P
04:39:56: <fank009> he's got that hot headedness as well
04:40:04: <Brawler4Ever> i've noticed
04:40:07: <Brawler4Ever> xD
04:40:09: <fank009> im pretty sure I've influenced everyones play a bit :/
04:40:27: <Brawler4Ever> you made it a very interesting game
04:40:35: <Brawler4Ever> by one off-hand comment
04:40:39: <Brawler4Ever> no complaints here
04:41:25: <fank009> xD
04:41:29: <fank009> eh...
04:41:34: <fank009> should have put in more...
04:41:41: <fank009> but... eh I was a dead man regardless,
04:42:09: <Brawler4Ever> I see latios' wolfing like yours: a shot in the dark in hopes of getting a blue
04:42:30: <Brawler4Ever> I don't think that the wolves looked too deeply into it
04:42:33: <fank009> best way to describe it i think...
04:42:37: <Brawler4Ever> because there wasn't much to go off of
04:42:41: <fank009> you know, you might be onto something...
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Can we win a war of attrition? Every player that we don't relynch has a 50% chance of becoming Kunemon at the end of the Day Phase. Tanemon has a 50% chance of becoming a wolf as well. I think? He can become either Betamon or Palmon, so I'm assuming that it's 50% chance either way. And everybody, regardless of whom they become, can become of the the 3 "hidden" wolves: Numemon, Sukamon, and Nanimon at a chance of 5% each after 4 phases have completed from their rebirth. Everybody that is vigi'd is the same as well. There's no way that we can keep up with the potential wolves if we keep getting reborn. If we can't win a war of attrition, then we need to burst the wolves down. The best way that I can think of, at the moment, is intentionally killing Jijimon.
My thinking is that that Jijimon does more to help the wolves than hinder them, unintentionally. In the long run, we will be overrun with potential wolves. We're already going to be facing MetalGreymon later (the end of Day 4, I think?). And potentially Devimon, a 50% chance if Angemon is killed. But I'm fairly certain that that's it. That's one wolf that we can find way earlier (or end the game before it even becomes a concern), and another that has a very low chance of coming up. I believe that that is a threat that we can handle, especially since the wolves won't have any significant powers until later. Seriously - one power is that their vote counts for 2, and the other is that they can see how many blues are in the game. Compare that to HerculesKabuterimon (Digivolves from Kuwagamon, is told the role names of all the blues currently in the game at the end of each night phase). Seeing 3 blues remaining is a great deal different than seeing "there is 1 vigi, 1 seer, and jijimon still alive."
Also, there's Vademon, who I have literally not seen until now: Vademon (Any Champion Digimon digivolving has a 10% chance of digivolving into Vademon, a normal wolf). This comes regardless of being reborn, or if one is already a wolf, as far as I can tell.

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Seriously, I've read through the OP at least 10 times. And I'M STILL LEARNING from it. Well played, davy. :P
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My belief is that we will lose a war of attrition, and that jijimon should be lynched. But, I realize that that action is questionable, if not completely insane. I'm willing to discuss it, and I welcome any questions. I believed Jijimon to be our best bet at victory, and I had to give it a great deal of thought before coming to the conclusion that he should be sacrificed.

In contrast, it is literally impossible for the wolves to win if Jijimon is alive. Bar none. My concern is that the forum will be so overrun by wolves later in the game that that protection won't matter anymore. We may kill the initial 2 wolves, but we'll be facing anywhere from 0-3, or more, wolves by that time. That is my main concern right now. If anybody can think of a better strategy, I am listening. :)
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10 years later. Still Brawling!

Dude

How about all the humans message everyone to get reborn and whoever isn't reborn is either a wolf or jiji... Or inactive.

Dude

Of course, that would unblue everyone.

Dude


Dude

Oh. Let's wait till we get one wolf first, then do that plan on a day phase.

FireArrow

Ok, guy here's the plan:

Palmon needs to claim - will explain later
Latios, PM every player that you wish to be reborn as any of the following: Koromon, Tsunomon, or Tokomon. Jijimon, don't forward the PM to davy until the night phase. This will ensure latios has a 100% chance to be reborn and digivolve as a human. This frees up our lynch, which is gives us a very low risk human kill. If the vigi doesn't kill anyone at night, we can continue to do this until day 4, at which point we will have: 2 confirmed humans (Latios and whoever is wolfed tonight), 2 people likely to be human (D2 and D3 lynches). From here, jijimon will claim and we lynch him. This will lead the cast to look something like this:

Latios: A human Champion Digimon (unless he gets the unlucky 15%, which isn't too terrible anyways since he can't nightkill.)
N2 victim: 100% a human Rookie Digimon.
D2 victim: 87.5% chance of being a human rookie digimon.
N3 Victim: In-training digimon with a 50% chance of becoming a wolf.
D3 Victim: Palmon.
Palmon: Dead.
3 other humans: Will digivolve into a human.
And 2 wolves.

This means all we have to do is find the 2 wolves out of a pool of 5 players with the N3 victim being a priority target. Tell me if I missed anything.
Quote from: Dudeman on January 23, 2017, 05:35:59 PM
straight from the department of redundancy department

davy

Quote from: FireArrow on July 27, 2015, 12:29:06 PMJijimon, don't forward the PM to davy until the night phase. This will ensure latios has a 100% chance to be reborn and digivolve as a human.

A little clarification, if a player wants to be reborn and Jijimon forwards the PM, the player will be reborn at the end of the phase the PM was forwarded in.
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[davy]'s in a way different time zone so basically he pops in at like 2 AM and posts 500 words and wins the game

FireArrow

Quote from: davy on July 27, 2015, 12:43:22 PMA little clarification, if a player wants to be reborn and Jijimon forwards the PM, the player will be reborn at the end of the phase the PM was forwarded in.

"Immediately reborn" confused me. Jijimon will just have to forward the PM this phase then.
Quote from: Dudeman on January 23, 2017, 05:35:59 PM
straight from the department of redundancy department

fank009

Quote from: FireArrow on July 27, 2015, 12:29:06 PMOk, guy here's the plan:

Palmon needs to claim - will explain later
Latios, PM every player that you wish to be reborn as any of the following: Koromon, Tsunomon, or Tokomon. Jijimon, don't forward the PM to davy until the night phase. This will ensure latios has a 100% chance to be reborn and digivolve as a human. This frees up our lynch, which is gives us a very low risk human kill. If the vigi doesn't kill anyone at night, we can continue to do this until day 4, at which point we will have: 2 confirmed humans (Latios and whoever is wolfed tonight), 2 people likely to be human (D2 and D3 lynches). From here, jijimon will claim and we lynch him. This will lead the cast to look something like this:

Latios: A human Champion Digimon (unless he gets the unlucky 15%, which isn't too terrible anyways since he can't nightkill.)
N2 victim: 100% a human Rookie Digimon.
D2 victim: 87.5% chance of being a human rookie digimon.
N3 Victim: In-training digimon with a 50% chance of becoming a wolf.
D3 Victim: Palmon.
Palmon: Dead.
3 other humans: Will digivolve into a human.
And 2 wolves.

This means all we have to do is find the 2 wolves out of a pool of 5 players with the N3 victim being a priority target. Tell me if I missed anything.
if palmon claims, we lynch today.
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FireArrow

Quote from: Dudeman on January 23, 2017, 05:35:59 PM
straight from the department of redundancy department