TWG LXXXII: File Island

[Olimar12345]

This happened pretty quickly, I'm still waiting for the post game of the last twg :/

And omg this one looks so confusing I'm going to have to read the op a thousand times >~<

[Dudeman]

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(I'm actually really excited to see how this turns out.)

[mikey]

If I die I want mlf to sub me

[Sebastian]

lol

[fank009]

If I die I want mlf to sub me

you shall be reborn as mlf...

in other news wheres the chat?

[davy]

in other news wheres the chat?

chat

[Dudeman]

Oh, I have a game question. Can two players be the same Digimon at the same time?

[davy]

Oh, I have a game question. Can two players be the same Digimon at the same time?

Yes, that is entirely possible.

[Dudeman]

chatlog

16:38   Brawler4Ever   cardflipping is where we see the color of a player when they die, right?
16:38   fankphone   Actually no,
16:38   Dudeman42   Okay, true.
16:38   fankphone   Im pretty sure there are a few safe paths...
16:38   fankphone   Need to have a look again
16:38   Dudeman42   Kunemon (Any In-Training digimon digivolving at the end of the Day phase has a 50% chance of digivolving into Kunemon, a normal wolf)
16:39   fankphone   At the end of a Day phase...
16:39   Dudeman42   If you get wolfed, there's a 50% chance you'll become a wolf, if my reading is correct.
16:39   fankphone   Sounds right
16:39   Brawler4Ever   if the resurrecter is still alive, right?
16:39   Dudeman42   Right.
16:39   Brawler4Ever   ok
16:39   fankphone   People who are lynched arent wolves
16:39   Dudeman42   Wow, what if the wolves get lucky and kill Jijimon night 1?
16:40   Dudeman42   "People who are lynched arent wolves"
16:40   Brawler4Ever   we would find out pretty soon, right?
16:40   Dudeman42   Well, Tanemon has a 50% chance of becoming one.
16:40   Dudeman42   But yeah, small chance overall.
16:41   Dudeman42   Okay, Tanemon is guaranteed to become a wolf if they survive four phases.
16:41   Dudeman42   50% chance they'll become one after 1 phase.
16:42   Brawler4Ever   he eventually becomes saedramon, right?
16:43   Brawler4Ever   so confusing! -_-
16:43   Dudeman42   And Vegiemon.
16:43   Dudeman42   *and/or
16:43   Dudeman42   It's only going to be confusing once we're a few phases in.
16:43   Brawler4Ever   oh ok I see that
16:43   Dudeman42   I'll run a few probability tests as people die :3
16:43   Dudeman42   That'll be fun.
16:43   Brawler4Ever   I have a feeling that RNG is going to win this game
16:43   Brawler4Ever   regardless of what actually happens
16:44   Dudeman42   ^^
16:44   fankphone   Eh
16:44   fankphone   If you knew what to do, you dont nees rng
16:44   Brawler4Ever   except that I don't know what I'm doing xD
16:44   Brawler4Ever   well, technically I do
16:45   Dudeman42   You wanna spill on your role?
16:45   Brawler4Ever   I'm just not super-experienced with all of this
16:45   Brawler4Ever   not really
16:45   Dudeman42   Didn't think so.
16:45   Brawler4Ever   I'm still trying to understand it xD
16:45   Dudeman42   The game?
16:45   Dudeman42   Simple. Don't evolve into a wolf.
16:46   fankphone   Some things you cant help...
16:46   Brawler4Ever   right
16:46   Brawler4Ever   "simple"
16:46   Dudeman42   (the irony is strong with this one)
16:46   Brawler4Ever   ikr?
16:46   fankphone   Im pretty sure
16:46   Dudeman42   So, players can PM Jijimon to be reborn.
16:47   fankphone   Yeah...
16:47   Dudeman42   But how can we know his identity unless he claims?
16:47   Dudeman42   Then the wolves can just kill 'im.
16:47   fankphone   I think
16:47   fankphone   Thats the catch
16:47   Dudeman42   So, guardian has to claim successfully, then Jijimon can claim to guardian, then people can claim to jijimon.
16:47   Brawler4Ever   jijimon can at least live until Night 2 right? I think?
16:48   Dudeman42   Unless he gets wolfed first night.
16:48   fankphone   Dudeman, thats a nice idea and all
16:49   Brawler4Ever   if the guardian guards Night 1, he can't on Night 2
16:49   fankphone   But its not effective to have everythig through a placebo
16:49   fankphone   1, guardian is dead...
16:50   fankphone   2, wolves would still eventually find out jiji, eliminating the effect of him being in the shadows
16:51   Dudeman42   So, is there an effective way to figuring out Jiji's identity?
16:51   Dudeman42   Or is that power basically useless now?
16:51   Dudeman42   (Also I just posted a game-related question in the topic)
16:52   Brawler4Ever   good question
16:52   fankphone   Qs go to the host,  not the topic....
16:52   Brawler4Ever   I think that they have to be?
16:52   Dudeman42   Well, it's about the game as a whole.
16:52   fankphone   Because its telling
16:52   Dudeman42   It affects everyone.
16:52   Brawler4Ever   i dunno, me not knowing about the Piercing didn't help me last game
16:52   fankphone   There are still tells you can get from it
16:52   Brawler4Ever   jk
16:53   Dudeman42   If everyone's roles are determined randomly, there's a chance that two people end up the same digimon.
16:53   Dudeman42   That might create some conflict of roles down the line? Not sure.
16:53   Brawler4Ever   i think that we're all different right now
16:53   Dudeman42   Well, we are now. As soon as some people die that could change.
16:53   Brawler4Ever   but if we're ressed, we might become the same didmon?
16:53   Brawler4Ever   rught
16:53   Brawler4Ever   right*
16:54   Brawler4Ever   davy says it's possible
16:54   Brawler4Ever   so mystery solves
16:54   Brawler4Ever   solved*
16:54   Dudeman42   Hoo boy.
16:54   Brawler4Ever   typing, please
16:55   Brawler4Ever   so any player that is initially ressed is human...
16:55   Brawler4Ever   but based on the specific digimon into which they ress, they can become a wolf
16:55   Brawler4Ever   correct?
16:55   Dudeman42   (what's ressing)
16:56   Brawler4Ever   being ressurected
16:56   Brawler4Ever   by jijimon
16:56   Dudeman42   (okay, ty)
16:56   Dudeman42   Your question is correct.
16:56   Brawler4Ever   ok
16:56   Brawler4Ever   i think im getting this game
16:57   Brawler4Ever   but I'll probably make a horrible, game-ending decision
16:57   Brawler4Ever   and if so, I apologize in advance xD
16:57   Dudeman42   Give me a sec and I'll find which In-Training 'mons are the completely safe ones.
16:57   Dudeman42   Tanemon's out.
16:57   Brawler4Ever   (Any In-Training digimon digivolving at the end of the Day phase has a 50% chance of digivolving into Kunemon, a normal wolf)
16:58   Brawler4Ever   so none of them are completely safe
16:58   Dudeman42   (well, which specific ones will be guaranteed to become a wolf)
16:58   Brawler4Ever   it just depends on the timing
16:58   Brawler4Ever   oh, right
16:58   fankphone   There is one safe path....
16:58   Dudeman42   ('cause you could request a role that will become a wolf if you want to join the wolves)
16:58   fankphone   To digivolve
16:58   fankphone   To always stay human
16:59   Brawler4Ever   which one?
16:59   Dudeman42   But it's only 5% possible. I see it.
16:59   fankphone   ...
16:59   Dudeman42   Wait, that's not even possible.
16:59   Dudeman42   Hold it.
16:59   fankphone   Hang on...
16:59   Brawler4Ever   lol
16:59   Dudeman42   I keep forgetting Blue's human too.
17:00   Dudeman42   RESTART
17:00   Brawler4Ever   a player can only become kunemon at the end of the Day Phase
17:00   Brawler4Ever   if they are ressed at the END of the Day phase, they spend their training at Night
17:00   Dudeman42   Boom.
17:00   Brawler4Ever   therefore, they cannot become Kunemon
17:00   Brawler4Ever   Boom
17:00   Brawler4Ever   I think?
17:00   Brawler4Ever   xD
17:01   Dudeman42   That is correct.
17:01   Dudeman42   See, you're getting the hang of it.
17:01   fankphone   Thats what I said
17:01   fankphone   Those lynched cant be wolves
17:02   Brawler4Ever   jijimon can pm them saying, "tell davy to have you ressed" if they are flipped human
17:02   Brawler4Ever   ok that makes sense now
17:03   Brawler4Ever   he never needs to claim
17:03   Dudeman42   Ah! Genius solution, Brawler.
17:03   Brawler4Ever   does that sound right, fank?
17:03   fankphone   ...
17:03   Brawler4Ever   no...?
17:03   fankphone   Sounds right
17:03   Brawler4Ever   lol
17:03   Dudeman42   Yay.
17:03   fankphone   Sound's broken
17:04   fankphone   Lets go for it
17:04   Dudeman42   Okay, Tsunomon and Tokomon are the most safe revivals.
17:04   fankphone   ... no?
17:05   fankphone   I thought it was koromon?
17:05   Dudeman42   Tsunomon's safer, though, 'cause a later form of Tokomon has a chance of becoming a wolf if it dies.
17:05   Dudeman42   No, Koromon can become Greymon.
17:06   fankphone   ..
17:06   Dudeman42   *MetalGreymon, oops.
17:07   Brawler4Ever   yeah koromon becomes a wolf later
17:07   Brawler4Ever   reading tokomon...
17:07   Dudeman42   (An Angemon that dies has a 50% of being reborn as a Devimon, wolf shaman)
17:07   Dudeman42   Angemon digivolves from Patamon digivolves from Tokomon.
17:08   fankphone   True...
17:08   Brawler4Ever   i don't even seen angemon
17:08   Brawler4Ever   nvm got him
17:08   fankphone   I was just thinking of the awesome ability to disable abilities
17:08   Brawler4Ever   that includes, wolfings, correct?
17:09   Dudeman42   Wolfings are a natural process; I don't think you can cancel them.
17:09   Dudeman42   Like a lynch, it must happen(?).
17:09   Brawler4Ever   not sure
17:09   Brawler4Ever   (Digivolves from Leomon. Can PM the host in order to be modified)
17:09   Brawler4Ever   for Mamemon
17:09   Brawler4Ever   what does this mean?
17:09   Dudeman42   Read the next two roles.
17:10   Dudeman42   MetalMamemon and Giromon.
17:10   Brawler4Ever   oh ok
17:10   Dudeman42   So a Mamemon can request to modify itself, but it can become a wolf as a result.
17:10   fankphone   I'll be afk
17:10   Brawler4Ever   ok
17:10   Dudeman42   It's basically just another human if it doesn't modify.
17:11   Brawler4Ever   but it can choose to not modify itself?
17:11   Dudeman42   Yes.
17:11   Brawler4Ever   ok
17:12   Brawler4Ever   so tsunonomon seems like the safest bet
17:12   Dudeman42   Yes.
17:12   Dudeman42   I'll look into it some more (omg I love probability trees), but that's what it looks like.
17:12   Brawler4Ever   sweet
17:13   Dudeman42   And Tanemon's your best bet if you want to join the wolves.
17:13   Brawler4Ever   traitors xD
17:13   Brawler4Ever   but jijimon knows which digimon is chosen
17:13   Dudeman42   Hey, it's the difference between being on the winning side and not on the winning side.
17:13   Brawler4Ever   yeah, that's true
17:13   Dudeman42   And?
17:14   Brawler4Ever   he would know if somebody is trying to defect
17:14   Brawler4Ever   by choosing tanemon
17:14   Brawler4Ever   right?
17:15   Dudeman42   But if he says anything about it, people might suspect he's Jijimon and the wolves kill him.
17:15   Dudeman42   You know, I like how this game makes it so that different people end up being wolves.
17:16   Dudeman42   Then you can't use someone's past actions against them.
17:16   Dudeman42   You have to read everything as it comes.
17:16   fankphone   This game has the potential to go on for months
17:17   Dudeman42   At some point, Jijimon will die and then it won't.
17:17   fankphone   (Dudeman42) Then you can't use someone's past actions against them.
17:17   fankphone   I think you can tell whos playibg for the next phase and all
17:17   Brawler4Ever   lol
17:18   Dudeman42   Hm. You might have a point.
17:18   Brawler4Ever   so who, right now, can become a wolf?
17:18   Brawler4Ever   agumon
17:18   fankphone   ...
17:18   fankphone   3 phases though
17:19   Dudeman42   Hold up, Shellmon doesn't evolve.
17:19   Dudeman42   Interesting.
17:19   fankphone   I think hell go into the wolf role?
17:19   Dudeman42   What, Shellmon?
17:20   fankphone   I have this strange feeling...
17:20   fankphone   That humans should kill jijimon within a few phases...
17:20   Brawler4Ever   lol what?
17:20   Dudeman42   'Cause they'll outnumber the wolves then.
17:21   Brawler4Ever   sorry afk 1 sec
17:21   fankphone   Well... turn wolves to humans ..
17:21   Dudeman42   Yes.
17:21   fankphone   Then before everyone else flips
17:24   Brawler4Ever   im back
17:24   Brawler4Ever   isn't the ressurection optional?
17:24   Dudeman42   The chosen ress is optional.
17:25   Dudeman42   If Jiji's alive, you ress. No exceptions.
17:25   Brawler4Ever   oh
17:25   Brawler4Ever   totally misread that xD
17:25   Brawler4Ever   but if everybody chooses tsunomon
17:26   Brawler4Ever   then, theoretically, nobody becomes a wolf
17:26   Brawler4Ever   if they choose not to modify
17:26   Brawler4Ever   ...
17:26   Brawler4Ever   ok I think that I see your point
17:26   Brawler4Ever   having a bunch of Mamemons means that at any time, a bunch of wolves could be born
17:27   Brawler4Ever   at a 50% chance
17:27   Brawler4Ever   each
17:27   Dudeman42   If they choose to modify.
17:27   Brawler4Ever   but if they think that the wolves are going to win, why wouldn't they?
17:27   Brawler4Ever   it's a 50% chance at a potential victory
17:27   Dudeman42   ...Unless they don't want to be a wolf.
17:28   Brawler4Ever   which makes sense to me
17:28   Brawler4Ever   but I'm thinking of everything
17:28   Dudeman42   Let's just take the game as it comes.
17:28   Brawler4Ever   lol
17:29   Dudeman42   Should we post this chat now?
17:29   fankphone   Just shows you how individual this game is.
17:29   fankphone   If you want
17:29   fankphone   I can't
17:29   Dudeman42   Not much else to disucss
17:29   Dudeman42   *discuss
17:29   Dudeman42   Brawler you're infecting me
17:29   fankphone   Maybr
17:30   Brawler4Ever   ironic, I also go by the name MadCouchDisease
17:30   Brawler4Ever   xD

[close]

A long one; the first few lines were lost but nothing important is missing. We just started discussing the ins and outs of the game.

[Latios212]

On for a bit, but super busy. I'll catch you guys tomorrow.

[Olimar12345]

On for a bit, but super busy. I'll catch you guys tomorrow.

wat a wulf

[mikey]

So after tonight everyone gets to level up, do we get new role pm's or what

[FireArrow]

So after tonight everyone gets to level up, do we get new role pm's or what

3 phases from now you mean?

[Dude]

hi

[Brawler4Ever]

After being a Rookie digimon for 3 phases you will digivolve into a Champion digimon.

Since we are all Rookie Digimon, every player will digivolved at the end of Night 2, with the exception of Jijimon, who does not ever Digivolve.

do we get new role pm's or what

I would assume that that is how it works; some Digi-evolutions have multiple possible outcomes. A pm from davy would be required, or so I'm assuming.