TWG LXXXII: File Island

[Dudeman]

10 bucks Fank's the betamon starter.

[davy]

TWG LXXXII: File Island

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In this game the color of a player's role is always representive for his team (in which wolves are red and humans are green and blue. Green humans are told they are a data digimon).

In-Training Digimon:

Koromon
Tsunomon
Tokomon
Tanemon

Rookie Digimon:

Agumon (Digivolves from Koromon, vigi, cannot vigi during the first night phase since he has digivolved into this role, and cannot vigi during the first night phase of the game.)
Gabumon (Digivolves from Koromon)
Elecmon (Digivolves from Tsunomon)
Penguinmon (Digivolves from Tsunomon)
Patamon (Digivolves from Tokomon)
Biyomon (Digivolves from Tokomon, guardian, if he guards a player, he cannot use his powers during the next night phase if he is still Biyomon.)
Palmon (Digivolves from Tanemon, Whenever he dies, the player that caused his death, or the player that voted for him last cannot activate his power untill two phases after he died).
Betamon (Digivolves from Tanemon, a normal wolf)
Kunemon (Any In-Training digimon digivolving at the end of the Day phase has a 50% chance of digivolving into Kunemon, a normal wolf)

Champion Digimon

Greymon (Digivolves from Agumon, vigi)
Garurumon (Digivolves from Gabumon, whenever he is targeted by a power, there is a 25% chance that the power won't work and the player who targeted him will die)
Leomon (Digivolves from Elecmon, Can send the host a name of a player during the night phase and that players power will be negated untill the beginning of the next night phase. If he does, he cannot activate his power during the next night phase.)
Shellmon (Digivolves from Penguinmon)
Angemon (Digivolves from Patamon, seer)
Birdramon (Digivolves from Biyomon, Guardian)
Vegiemon (Digivolves from Palmon, Whenever he dies, the player that caused his death, or the player that voted for him last cannot activate his power untill two phases after he died).
Seadramon (Digivolves from Betamon, Charismatic wolf, vote counts for 2)
Kuwagamon (Digivolves from Kunemon, wolf psychic (is told the number of blues currently in the game at the end of the night phase).
Numemon (Any rookie digimon that has at least been reborn once will have a 5% chance of digivolving into Numemon, is told he is a Data Digimon)
Sukamon (Any rookie digimon that has at least been reborn once will have a 5% chance of digivolving into Sukamon, is told he is a Data Digimon. If Sukamon knows he is a Sukamon, he can PM the host to turn him back into his Rookie form. If the host receives such a PM while the player sending it is not Sukamon, the host is allowed to tell that player that he or she is not Sukamon.)
Nanimon (Any rookie digimon that has at least been reborn once will have a 5% chance of digivolving into Nanimon, is told he is a Data Digimon)

Ultimate Digimon

MetalGreymon (Digivolves from Greymon, wolf vigi)
WereGarurumon (Digivolves form Garurumon, Whenever he is targeted by a power, that power will be negated and WereGarurumon will use that power against the player that targeted him instead. However, he cannot post in the tread, nor vote, nor PM, nor be able to speak in the chat. After four phases he'll die and always (even if Jijimon is dead) be reborn as an In-Training digimon)
Mamemon (Digivolves from Leomon. Can PM the host in order to be modified)
MetalMamemon (Has a 50% chance of being modified from Mamemon, can target one player each night phase, that player's power cannot be activated untill the next day phase)
Giromon (Has a 50% chance of being modified from Mamemon, whenever he is targeted by a power, that power will fail and that player will lose his power untill he digivolves or dies).
Andromon (Digivolves from Angemon, role seer, instead of recieving the color of the player he seer'd he recieves the role of the player he seer'd).
Devimon (An Angemon that dies has a 50% of being reborn as a Devimon, wolf shaman)
Phoenixmon (Digivolves from Birdramon, Double Guardian (Can guard two players during the night phase)
Megaseadramon (Digivolves from Seadramon, vote counts for 3)
HerculesKabuterimon (Digivolves from Kuwagamon, is told the role names of all the blues currently in the game at the end of each night phase).
Monzaemon (Digivolves from Numemon, Is told the role of any player who dies, and any role they become after dying.)
Etemon (Digivolves from Sukamon, at the beginning of each night phase, he will be told the name of a current wolf).
Digitamamon (Digivolves from Nanimon)
Vademon (Any Champion Digimon digivolving has a 10% chance of digivolving into Vademon, a normal wolf)

Mega Digimon

Machinedramon (Digivolves from Digitamamon, wolf vigi, can vigi up to 2 times per night phase)
Jijimon (Does not digivolve, as long as he is alive any digimon that dies (exept for himself) will be reborn as a random In-Training digimon (this power cannot be negated). Any living player may PM Jijimon if they want to be immidiately reborn, together with the digimon the want to be reborn into. If Jijimon recieves such a PM he may forward it to the host to grant such a request. Jijimon may do so once per two phases.)


The game will start with the following players:

Agumon
Gabumon
Elecmon
Penguinmon
Patamon
Biyomon
Palmon
Betamon
Kunemon
Jijimon

Wolves do not know eachother.
If multiple wolfings are sent, then the first one will take place.

This game will use card flipping.

If a player dies and is reborn, it will be posted in the end of the phase update.
If a player survived an attempt to kill, that will be posted in the end of the phase update as well.
If a player dies, the cause of death will not be posted in the end of the phase update.


DIGIVOLVING

After being an In-Training digimon for one phase you will digivolve into a Rookie digimon.
After being a Rookie digimon for 3 phases you will digivolve into a Champion digimon.
After being a Champion digimon for 5 phases you will digivolve into an Ultimate digimon.
After being a Digitamamon for 5 phases you will digivole into Machindramon.

In-Training digimon have 2 digivolved forms. They have a 50% chance of digivolving in eighter of them (25% when digivolving at the end of the day phase, because then there is a 50% chance of digivolving into Kunemon).
The chance of digivolving into a digimon whose description says: (Digivolves from: ...) is equal to 100%-(the chance of digivolving into any other digimon possible).


Wolves win when all players still alive in game are Wolves
Humans win when there are no wolves at the start and the end of the same night phase.


Players may not make any action that will hurt their current team. If any player makes an action that might hurt/seems to be hurting his or her team that player should PM me the reason for doing so. I may request such a PM for any action at any time.

Obviously, this doesn't count for Numemon, Sukamon and Nanimon, because they don't know on which team they are.

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1. Olimar12345
2. Latios212
3. Fank009
4. Brawler4Ever
5. BlackDragonSlayer
6. Dudeman
7. FireArrow
8. Dude
9. NocturneOfShadow
10. Bubbles

Replacements:
1 mariolegofan

fank009 and FireArrow died. fank009 was red, FireArrow was green. It's now day 4. Day 4 will end August 5th 2:00PM PST/3:00PM MST/4:00PM CST/5:00PM EST/11:00PM CET/August 6th 10AM in New Zealand

[fank009]

Lel vig. Oh well still screwed

[Dudeman]

Lynch B4E. Do it now.

[Bubbles]

I'd like to not rush this phase (after my insta push last one haa..) since I'm stuck between two lynch options atm. I'm going to really try to get on the chat later tonight and STAY on, so please try to do that too everyone

[Latios212]

I'll be there.

[Brawler4Ever]

Lynch B4E. Do it now.

So should I cut the pomp and circumstance and just vote for Dudeman now, or wait until later? It seems like we want to wait until later, and I'm totally fine with that. But I think that it's fair to say that either Dudeman or I is going to be lynched today.

I'll be in chat as well.

[Brawler4Ever]

Chat log from a few minutes ago:

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15:59      *** Brawler4Ever joined #TWG
15:59   Brawler4Ever   hey
15:59   Dudeman42   Wow that was prompt.
15:59   Brawler4Ever   ikr?
15:59   Brawler4Ever   this is intense stuff
16:00   Dudeman42   So.
16:01   Dudeman42   Shall we address the elephant in the room now or later?
16:01   Brawler4Ever   I think that we agreed on later xD
16:01   Brawler4Ever   jk now is fine
16:01   Brawler4Ever   we are each claiming that the other is a wolf
16:01   Dudeman42   Yyyyyep.
16:01   Dudeman42   
16:02   Latios   Ohey
16:02   Brawler4Ever   hey
16:02   Latios   Hi elephants
16:04   Dudeman42   Hello.
16:05   Latios   Sorry for not being around during the BDS thing
16:05   Brawler4Ever   np
16:05   Latios   I got out of work checked my phone
16:05   Latios   AAAAAUUUUGH
16:06   Brawler4Ever   ikr?
16:06   Brawler4Ever   BDS being guardian still doesn't make sense to me
16:06   Dudeman42   Made sense to me...
16:07   Latios   Must say though he was acting kinda weird.
16:07   Brawler4Ever   he posted roughly 3 times all game
16:07   Brawler4Ever   I understand it now
16:07   Dudeman42   I think he was just being BDS-ey.
16:07   Latios   RIP.
16:07   Brawler4Ever   fair point
16:07   Dudeman42   Anytime he has to make an argument he does so with a text wall.
16:07   Brawler4Ever   he was quiet last game as well
16:08   Dudeman42   Anyone wanna comment on Fank's table thing?
16:08   Latios   Oh right the table thing
16:09   Dudeman42   It's irrelevant now 'cause the vigi's alive, but whatevs.
16:09   Latios   So who's the vigi?
16:09   Brawler4Ever   bubbles
16:09   Brawler4Ever   has to be
16:10   Latios   Process of elimination ftw
16:10   Brawler4Ever   probably saved the game xD
16:10   Latios   Yep, was scared that vigis were gone.
16:11   Dudeman42   So...
16:12   Latios   I'm trying to get straight who's who
16:13   Latios   So you two are the only originals left...
16:13   Dudeman42   That's correct.
16:13   Brawler4Ever   yeah
16:13   Latios   I'm gonna try and sort out who was who
16:13   Latios   Dude was Jiji of course
16:13   Brawler4Ever   I'm Leomon
16:13   Brawler4Ever   Dudeman is Shellmon
16:14   Dudeman42   At least, that's what we're telling each other.
16:14   Brawler4Ever   one of us is lying (do I need to say that?)
16:14   Brawler4Ever   lol
16:14   Latios   lol
16:14   Latios   So eveyrone else first
16:14   Latios   Bubbles is a vigi
16:14   Latios   Greymon is it?
16:15   Brawler4Ever   I think so?
16:15   Dudeman42   Looks that way.
16:15   Brawler4Ever   yes
16:15   Latios   So that means the original vigi is dead
16:15   Latios   Otherwise there would have been more deaths last night right
16:15   Dudeman42   Olimar, probably.
16:15   Brawler4Ever   yeah
16:15   Brawler4Ever   he never claimed
16:15   Latios   Seems like it
16:15   Brawler4Ever   and BDS claimed guardian
16:16   Latios   
16:16   Dudeman42   And flipped blue.
16:16   Brawler4Ever   right
16:16   Latios   Alright so that's about half of the roles I know now.
16:16   Dudeman42   Everyone else is/was either a normal wolf or a normal human.
16:17   Dudeman42   BTW, how does Fank "know" that the Betamon starter hasn't died yet?
16:17   Dudeman42   Ten bucks it's him.
16:17   Dudeman42   *was him.
16:17   Brawler4Ever   because he was the first starter to die?
16:17   Latios   Wasn't Noc red?
16:17   Brawler4Ever   he died before
16:17   Dudeman42   Yeah.
16:17   Brawler4Ever   but yeah, he was a wolf at his perma-death
16:18   Latios   So what were we saying about Betamon
16:18   Dudeman42   Fank said he was alive??
16:18   Brawler4Ever   before he died, yes
16:18   Latios   Well Betamon could have claimed to him, right?
16:18   Latios   Or something?
16:18   Brawler4Ever   fank seemed like he was trying to draw a possible vigi off of himself
16:19   Brawler4Ever   with BDS dead, there was no reason for the other wolf to
16:19   Brawler4Ever   so why to claim to fank?
16:19   Brawler4Ever   other wolf to *not claim to fank
16:20   Dudeman42   ...?
16:20   Brawler4Ever   sorry
16:20   Brawler4Ever   my words got jumbled
16:20   Dudeman42   Didn't that last question contradict your point?
16:20   Brawler4Ever   lol
16:20   Dudeman42   XD
16:20   Dudeman42   Try again.
16:20   Brawler4Ever   why not* claim to fank?
16:20   Latios   wut.
16:20   Brawler4Ever   xD
16:20   Latios   oh ok
16:20   Dudeman42   Goooootcha.
16:21   Latios   So we don't really know who was/is Betamon yet....
16:21   Latios   What else do we know for sure
16:21   Brawler4Ever   it was probably fank
16:21   Dudeman42   That's what I think.
16:21   Latios   Well then that's good.
16:21   Dudeman42   He isn't too good at disguising himself.
16:22   Brawler4Ever   understatement of the game xD
16:22   Dudeman42   XD
16:22   Dudeman42   (i blame Dude no matter who wins)
16:22   Brawler4Ever   I blame RNG
16:22   Brawler4Ever   but Dude also works
16:22   Dudeman42   Dude is my scapegoat.
16:22   Dudeman42   
16:22   Brawler4Ever   that leaves us the Psychic wolf
16:22   Latios   I blame Dude
16:23   Brawler4Ever   if fank was Betamon
16:23   Dudeman42   Is that the only possibility?
16:24   Brawler4Ever   what's your role, latios?
16:24   Brawler4Ever   bubbles is vigi
16:24   Brawler4Ever   no doubt there
16:24   Brawler4Ever   either dudeman or I is the wolf
16:25   Latios   Ga... whatshisface
16:26   Dudeman42   The question is then who was phone??
16:26   Latios   Who?
16:26   Dudeman42   Yes.
16:26   Latios   who was what
16:26   Dudeman42   Phone.
16:27   Latios   What?
16:27   Brawler4Ever   fankphone?
16:27   Dudeman42   then who was phone??
16:28   Brawler4Ever   ...?
16:28   Dudeman42   (the memes are weak with these ones)
16:28   Brawler4Ever   the purple guy?
16:28   Dudeman42   Just give up. We have bigger fish to fry.
16:28   Brawler4Ever   lol
16:28   Latios   I still don't get it
16:28   Brawler4Ever   I'm thinking a FNaF meme?
16:28   Dudeman42   http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/then-who-was-phone
16:29   Latios   I have literally never seen that before
16:29   Latios   but okay
16:29   Brawler4Ever   i've heard it recently on FNaF YT videos
16:30   Dudeman42   BU
16:30   Dudeman42   *BUT
16:30   Dudeman42   Seriously, who's the wolf.
16:30   Brawler4Ever   what?
16:30   Brawler4Ever   it has to be you or me
16:30   Dudeman42   (trying to get back on topic)
16:30   Dudeman42   Yeah.
16:30   Brawler4Ever   maybe latios. who knows?
16:30   Brawler4Ever   ok just making sure
16:31   Dudeman42   Are we sure that one of us two has to be the wolf?
16:31   Brawler4Ever   yes
16:31   Brawler4Ever   everybody else has died
16:31   Latios   I have been very lost the whole game
16:31   Latios   but it seems that way
16:31   Brawler4Ever   we've killed two wolves
16:32   Brawler4Ever   one was noc, and he was a... convert? recruit? whatever
16:32   Brawler4Ever   the other was fank, who hadn't died yet
16:32   Brawler4Ever   so yes, one of us has to be a wolf
16:32   Dudeman42   But Latios was reborn on a night phase.
16:32   Brawler4Ever   Brawler4Ever   maybe latios. who knows?
16:32   Latios   Not me!
16:32   Brawler4Ever   latios can be vigi'd if the game goes past Today
16:33   Dudeman42   And there's really only one wolf left. We're sure?
16:33   Brawler4Ever   no...
16:33   Brawler4Ever   latios may be a wolf
16:33   Dudeman42   I've lost track of rebirths etcetera.
16:33   Latios   I'm trying to relocate everything
16:33   Latios   Fank's an original wolf.
16:33   Brawler4Ever   but it's irrelevant
16:33   Latios   But I think that's it
16:33   Latios   noc was turned
16:34   Brawler4Ever   because he died on the same Night as FA
16:34   Brawler4Ever   the same one where you were reborn
16:34   Latios   Now I remember.
16:35   Dudeman42   I have to take a break for a while. Fill me in on developments when I get back.
16:35   Brawler4Ever   ok
16:35   Latios   Okay.
16:35   Latios   Have the funs!
16:35   Latios   Hopefully Bubbles will be here then.
16:36   Brawler4Ever   Latios, do you want to post this chat log, or should I?
16:36      *** Dudeman42 quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
16:36   Latios   Go right ahead.
16:36   Brawler4Ever   sounds good

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[Brawler4Ever]

Chat log with me, Dudeman, and Bubbles:

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17:48   bubbles   ok phew
17:48   bubbles   i joined the old chat and got confused lol
17:50   Brawler4Ever   hey
17:51   Brawler4Ever   we have come to the conclusion that you're the vigi, Bubbles
17:51   Brawler4Ever   all of us, including Dudeman
17:53   bubbles   doesnt really matter, either way im being wolfed next phase huh
17:54   Brawler4Ever   unless the game ends today, yeah probably
17:54   bubbles   why would the game end today?
17:55   Brawler4Ever   either me or dudeman is a wolf
17:55   Brawler4Ever   if latios is not a wolf, the game ends if the wolf dies
17:55   bubbles   oh right
17:55   bubbles   i thought you meant with a human loss
17:56   Brawler4Ever   oh sorry
17:56   bubbles   i gotta do some math
17:56   bubbles   figure out these winning scenarios
17:56   Brawler4Ever   if the game doesn't end and we hit the wolf, you wolf latios for the win
17:56   Brawler4Ever   vigi*
17:57   bubbles   i dont know the order of powers though
17:57   bubbles   and the evolving stuff
17:57   bubbles   thats what im looking at
17:57   Brawler4Ever   oh ok
17:57   bubbles   since youre an original, do you know when youre going to evolve again?
17:57   Brawler4Ever   at the end of this phase, if fank's table is correct
17:57   Brawler4Ever   and I haven't found any problems with the table yet
17:58   bubbles   and who would you evolve into?
17:58   Brawler4Ever   um...
17:58   Brawler4Ever   Mamemon
17:58   Brawler4Ever   (Digivolves from Leomon. Can PM the host in order to be modified)
17:58      *** Dudeman42 joined #TWG
17:58   Brawler4Ever   hey
17:58   bubbles   hi
17:58   Brawler4Ever   the gang's all here!
17:58   Dudeman42   Hello, fellow survivors.
17:58   Brawler4Ever   although I think that latios is afk
17:58   Dudeman42   This is actually really cool
17:58   bubbles   your powers p useless though lol
17:58   Brawler4Ever   yeah
17:59   bubbles   so you are both aware that youre claiming useless roles
17:59   Brawler4Ever   by the time my power would matter (Leomon or Mamemon) the game will be over
17:59   Brawler4Ever   in terms of finding the wolf? yes
18:00   Dudeman42   So, have I missed anything?
18:00   bubbles   also that youre both claiming to have been human from the very start
18:00   bubbles   therefore, every action you both took in this game was supposedly for a human victory
18:00   Brawler4Ever   not really, dudeman
18:00   bubbles   in your words, that is
18:00   Brawler4Ever   yes, bubbles
18:00   bubbles   ok that makes things easier
18:00   Dudeman42   Same.
18:01   bubbles   if you were reborn there'd be a whole lot of confusing theoretical shit to sift through that i dont really have the patience for
18:01   bubbles   but thanks!!
18:01   Brawler4Ever   lol
18:01   Brawler4Ever   neither dudeman nor I have been killed yet
18:02   Brawler4Ever   the only wolves that have died are fank and noc
18:02   Brawler4Ever   and noc had died previously
18:02   bubbles   but i dont believe fank was betamon
18:02   bubbles   he said "there is one blue left" at some point
18:02   bubbles   and thats the other wolf's power
18:03   bubbles   (to know how many blues remain)
18:03   Brawler4Ever   he said that after BDS died
18:03   Brawler4Ever   so one of us could have claimed to him and brought him up to speed
18:03   bubbles   what do you mean?
18:04   Brawler4Ever   http://forum.ninsheetmusic.org/index.php?topic=7325.msg300374#msg300374
18:04   Brawler4Ever   by the time he said that, fank was a confirmed wolf
18:04   bubbles   yeah
18:04   Brawler4Ever   so he might have been betamon, after all
18:04   bubbles   ohhh
18:05   bubbles   yeah thats a possibility too
18:05   Brawler4Ever   the only way we can know
18:05   Brawler4Ever   is if a vote gets insta'd by two votes
18:05   Brawler4Ever   me + other = Dudeman death would mean that I'm the betamon
18:06   bubbles   why have i not done this math yet >.>
18:06   Brawler4Ever   I've been doing it since fank died
18:06   Brawler4Ever   almost constantly
18:06   bubbles   depending on the order of powers humans are either guaranteed a win or we're screwed
18:06   bubbles   if we mislynch anyway
18:07   Dudeman42   Well, we'll have to choose which of us two to let vote first.
18:07   bubbles   how about neither
18:07   bubbles   you two are biased, so that leaves me and latios
18:07   Dudeman42   I meant between the two of us.
18:08   bubbles   youre just going to vote for each other, and whoever is the wolf will have 2 votes
18:08   Brawler4Ever   true
18:08   Brawler4Ever   we should let bubbles and latios vote first
18:08   bubbles   so the safest way for the HUMANS is for neither of you two to do anything
18:08   Brawler4Ever   sounds good to me
18:08   Dudeman42   All right. Sounds fine.
18:09   Dudeman42   But then one of us has to break the tie...if there is one...
18:09   Brawler4Ever   A gentleman's agreement
18:09   Brawler4Ever   I love it! xD
18:09   Brawler4Ever   eventually, yes
18:09   bubbles   well at that point theres really nothing stopping it
18:09   Brawler4Ever   latios and bubbles can't insta alone though
18:09   bubbles   no there shouldnt be a tie
18:09   bubbles   im intending on coming to an agreement with latios
18:10   bubbles   do we need an insta?
18:10   bubbles   yeah i guess
18:10   Brawler4Ever   no
18:10   Brawler4Ever   well
18:10   Dudeman42   An insta just confirms Seadramon.
18:10   bubbles   itll speed things along but i wanna take our time
18:10   Brawler4Ever   can we take that chance, though?
18:10   bubbles   there wouldnt be a chance
18:10   bubbles   if me and latios both agree on a target, and neither of you vote, there shouldnt be a problem
18:11   bubbles   if either of you votes i swear ill lynch you right away
18:11   Dudeman42   Wait, the plan is that we don't vote at all?
18:11   Brawler4Ever   WE don't
18:11   bubbles   because if you are the double vote wolf that could cause a kitb
18:11   Brawler4Ever   meaning you and me
18:11   bubbles   brawler and dudeman do not vote
18:11   Dudeman42   @B4E Yeah, I got that.
18:12   Dudeman42   So to sum up, Bubbles and Latios vote. Brawler and I don't. Either they agree and reveal the true wolf, or we leave it up to a KitB to decide.
18:12   Brawler4Ever   if bubbles and latios agree, there will be no KitB
18:12   Brawler4Ever   it'll be 3v1
18:12   Dudeman42   Exactly.
18:13   Dudeman42   Oh, I misread Bubbles point earlier about coming to an agreement. Got it now.
18:13   Dudeman42   Gotta go eat food. Have fun.

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Chat log with me, Bubbles, and Latios, immediately after:

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18:13   Brawler4Ever   you have any questions for me?
18:14   bubbles   have you used your power at all?
18:15   Brawler4Ever   I used it on Dudeman
18:15   Brawler4Ever   N3... I think?
18:15   bubbles   why?
18:15   Brawler4Ever   because I knew him to be a wolf
18:15   bubbles   did you negate him last phase?
18:15   Brawler4Ever   I can only do it every other phase
18:16   bubbles   oh
18:17   bubbles   can you double check that it was night 3 for me?
18:18   Brawler4Ever   sure
18:18   bubbles   you sounded unsure
18:18   Brawler4Ever   oh, I meant every other Night phase
18:18   bubbles   i know
18:18   Brawler4Ever   ok just making sure
18:19   Brawler4Ever   yes, it was Night 3
18:19   bubbles   ok thanks
18:21   bubbles   brb
18:21   Brawler4Ever   ok
18:25   bubbles   k back
18:27   Brawler4Ever   hey
18:29   bubbles   how convienent
18:29   bubbles   you negating dudeman prevents the double voter from being isolated day 3
18:29   bubbles   did you know that
18:29   bubbles   ?
18:29   Brawler4Ever   what?
18:30   Brawler4Ever   I'm not quite sure I understand
18:30   bubbles   if you look at the voted from day 3 you should be able to tell who had the double vote
18:30   bubbles   by counting them up and factoring in the insta
18:30   bubbles   but if you negated dudeman
18:30   bubbles   's power that cant be determined
18:31   bubbles   unless it was fank
18:31   bubbles   either way its undeterminable
18:31   Brawler4Ever   I can't use my power during the Day phase
18:31   bubbles   i know
18:31   Brawler4Ever   I was hoping that dudeman was the psychic
18:31   bubbles   but when you used your power night 3 it carries over to day 3
18:31   Brawler4Ever   I don't think that my power can influence the charisma wolf
18:31   Brawler4Ever   it does?
18:31   bubbles   its a power right?
18:31   bubbles   ill ask davy
18:32   Brawler4Ever   I didn't think that it could
18:32   Brawler4Ever   but then, this is my first game with this power in it
18:33   Brawler4Ever   (Digivolves from Elecmon, Can send the host a name of a player during the night phase and that players power will be negated untill the beginning of the next night phase. If he does, he cannot activate his power during the next night phase.)
18:33   Brawler4Ever   you're right
18:34   Brawler4Ever   "beginning of the next night phase"
18:34   Brawler4Ever   I had read it as just "next phase"
18:34   bubbles   yeah
18:34   Latios   aguaughuahguhaughuhahguhaghgh
18:35   bubbles   hi latios!!
18:35   Brawler4Ever   hey
18:35   bubbles   got something in your throat?
18:35   Latios   I'm in the middle of smash matches with ben
18:35   bubbles   so right now we have three possibilities
18:36   bubbles   and i wont know which it is until davy pms me back
18:37   bubbles   ...aaandd its 230 am where he is so it prob wont be for a while
18:37   Brawler4Ever   lol
18:40   bubbles   latios do you know your role?
18:40   Latios   I have finished another match
18:40   Latios   I am garurururururururumon
18:40   Latios   Why do you have to wait for a PM?
18:40   bubbles   i asked davy some questions
18:40   bubbles   and your evolution progress is accurate on fank's chart?
18:41   bubbles   wait nvm of course it is
18:42   Brawler4Ever   what are your 3 possibilities, bubbles?
18:43   bubbles   just of who had the double vote on day 3
18:44   bubbles   depensing on what davy says it either osilates the wolf or leaves me back to nothing again
18:44   bubbles   im not going to correct those typos lol
18:44   Brawler4Ever   D3 it was me, fank, FA, and you against BDS
18:44   Brawler4Ever   Dudeman voted for fank
18:45   Brawler4Ever   how many of us were alive?
18:45   bubbles   7
18:45   bubbles   7 possible votes
18:46   bubbles   6 if you negated tho
18:46   Brawler4Ever   does that include betamon's extra vote?
18:46   bubbles   6 people were alive, 7 including betamons vote
18:46   bubbles   so actually looking at this again it doesnt really change anything
18:47   Brawler4Ever   Found the post. I count 7 alive?
18:47   bubbles   oh
18:47   Brawler4Ever   me, bubbles, latios, fank, BDS, dudeman, and FA
18:47   bubbles   why am i so messed up xD im in like 5 conversations rn
18:47   Brawler4Ever   np it's all good
18:48   bubbles   oh!!
18:49   bubbles   so fank wasnt betamon!!
18:49   bubbles   math is good
18:49   bubbles   wait nvm
18:49   bubbles   i should stop talking lol
18:50   Brawler4Ever   Brawler4Ever   np it's all good
18:50   bubbles   ughhh
18:51   Brawler4Ever   I have to go, sorry
18:51   bubbles   no im RIGHT DAMNIT
18:51   bubbles   FANK WAS THE PSYCHIC
18:51   bubbles   ok
18:52   Brawler4Ever   I'll post both of these chat logs in the thread
18:52   Brawler4Ever   I thought that he was betamon
18:52   bubbles   math says not
18:52   bubbles   unless davy messed up the insta but i doubt it
18:53   Brawler4Ever   I'm not sure
18:53   Brawler4Ever   I'll double-check it though
18:53   Brawler4Ever   cya!

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[Bubbles]

and after brawler left
(warning: my brain kinda melted here and half of it is untrue and i know that but i'm posting it anyway)

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21:53   bubbles   byee
21:53   bubbles   latios do you want me to explain why?
21:54      *** Brawler4Ever quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
21:54   Latios   yes please!
21:54   bubbles   ok so i looked at the three scenarios of brawler, fank, or dudeman being the double voter
21:55   bubbles   brawler claims that he negated dudeman night 3, meaning that if dudeman WAS the double vote it wouldnt have been in effect day 3
21:55   bubbles   since there was a total of 7 players alive during that phase, the total number of votes would have been 8
21:55   bubbles   7 with a negated dudeman
21:56   bubbles   with 7 votes, 4 votes would be needed for an insta
21:56   bubbles   and with 8 votes it would need to be 5 (for a majority)
21:57   bubbles   my vote on bds was the 5th vote, causing the insta
21:58   Latios   Hmm.
21:58   bubbles   so that means the double vote had to be in play right?
21:58   bubbles   i didnt see this before actually
21:58   bubbles   i just realized that xD
21:58   Latios   Give me a few minutes
21:58   Latios   this is confusing....
21:58   bubbles   yeah
21:58   bubbles   and its all based on that leoman can actually negate the double vote
21:59   bubbles   bc brawler said it might not
22:05   bubbles   oh wait i remember my train of thought now
22:05   bubbles   my vote was the 5th on BDS if the vote was in play, the 4th if it was not
22:06   bubbles   both would be the insta for each scenario
22:06   Latios   What was the order of voting?
22:06   bubbles   FA, fank, brawler, then me
22:07   bubbles   if dudeman was the double, brawler wouldnt be lying and the total vote would have been 7
22:07   Latios   How many people were alive at the time?
22:07   bubbles   7
22:07   Latios   So you're saying
22:07   bubbles   with one wolf with a double vote (that was possible negated)
22:07   Latios   if any of FA, fank or brawler was double
22:08   Latios   uh........
22:08   bubbles   well we know it wasnt fa
22:08   Latios   yeah
22:08   bubbles   but i cant remember where i was going with this Dxx
22:08   bubbles   let me think
22:09   Latios   I'm sorry I'm so out of it
22:10   bubbles   its ok im not making sense anyway
22:10   bubbles   theres something here but theres so much going on around me rn that i cant focus
22:10   Latios   Me too...
22:10   Latios   But at least we're down to only 4 people now lol
22:10   bubbles   i think brawlers the wolf
22:10   Latios   why?
22:10   bubbles   he said he negated dudeman
22:10   bubbles   uh
22:11   bubbles   brawler is the wolf if fank was the double vote
22:11   Latios   but isn't dudeman just some random green dude with no power
22:11   bubbles   yea
22:12   bubbles   brawler is the wolf if fank was the double vote, dudeman couldnt have been the double vote
22:12   bubbles   i think!
22:12   Latios   Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
22:12   bubbles   ill get my thoughts in order lollll
22:12   bubbles   sorry for putting you through this
22:12   Latios   why couldn't dudeman have the double vote?
22:12   Latios   it's ok
22:12   Latios   my brain is fried anyway
22:12   bubbles   if the double vote was in play, the votes needed for an insta would have been 5
22:12   Latios   1 hour + of smash with ben
22:13   Latios   Oh hmmm
22:13   bubbles   because there was 7 people +1 vote
22:13   Latios   that makes kinda sense
22:13   bubbles   if dudeman was the double, my vote would have been the 4th on BDS vs the 3 on fank
22:13   bubbles   (BDS and dudeman both voted for fank)
22:13   bubbles   so unless davy messed up it couldnt have been him
22:14   bubbles   ALSO, if dudeman was the psychic wolf, fank shouldnt have known how many blues were remaining
22:14   Latios   but how do you know they weren't in contact
22:14   bubbles   brawler said he could have been claimed to and told the number, but brawler also said he negated dudeman bc he thought he was the psychic
22:14   Latios   Augh my head
22:15   bubbles   so dudeman would have not gotten the update unless he had known prior (or had been in contact prior)
22:15   bubbles   let me look!! i either just figured this whole thing out or we're back to square one
22:15   Latios   Ok lol
22:16   bubbles   ah nvm
22:16   Latios   eh?
22:16   bubbles   if dudeman is the wolf, he would have been negated night 3
22:17   bubbles   but as the psychic he wouldve already known how many blues remained from night 2's data, so it doesnt mater
22:18   bubbles   and he couldnt have been the double
22:19   Latios   .............
22:19   bubbles   oh my god im a mess
22:19   Latios   lemme read things slowly....
22:19   bubbles   im sorry you have to deal with me
22:19   Latios   it's okay lol
22:20   Latios   I'm just trying to understand what you're saying.....
22:20   bubbles   me too lmaoo
22:20   Latios   if Dudeman is wolf....
22:20   Latios   Brawler (Leomon) would have... negated him night 3.....?
22:20   Latios   And that means........
22:21   Latios   wait if dudeman was which wolf
22:21   Latios   augh
22:21   bubbles   either
22:21   bubbles   bc brawler and dudeman cant both be wolves
22:21   bubbles   im sure of that lol
22:22   Latios   Yup lol
22:22   Latios   So what are you suggesting again? ack sorry for asking >___>
22:22   bubbles   bds never had more than 2 votes on him
22:23   Latios   until you came?
22:23   bubbles   shit i meant fank >.<
22:23   Latios   ok
22:23   Latios   that's true
22:23   Latios   I think.
22:23   bubbles   im going to write this all out BEFORE i tell you so i stop confusing everyone
22:24   bubbles   bc i dont even know what im saying anymore
22:24   bubbles   im writing this all on a freaking paper towel bc theres no paper in my house
22:24   Latios   Take your time lol
22:24   Latios   I have to shower
22:24   Latios   Clear my head
22:24   bubbles   ok
22:24   Latios   Gather your thoughts
22:24   bubbles   yeah lol
22:24   bubbles   theyre everywhere
22:24   Latios   I'm seeing home run bats everywhere
22:24   Latios   aaaaaaahhhhhh
22:25   Latios   Seeya in a bit
22:25   bubbles   byee

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[Brawler4Ever]

21:58   bubbles   and its all based on that leoman can actually negate the double vote
21:59   bubbles   bc brawler said it might not

18:33   Brawler4Ever   (Digivolves from Elecmon, Can send the host a name of a player during the night phase and that players power will be negated untill the beginning of the next night phase. If he does, he cannot activate his power during the next night phase.)
18:33   Brawler4Ever   you're right
18:34   Brawler4Ever   "beginning of the next night phase"
18:34   Brawler4Ever   I had read it as just "next phase"

It turns out that my power does stop the double vote. Sorry about that!

[Brawler4Ever]

I THINK THAT I'VE GOT IT!

Let's start with the most simple scenario: I am a wolf and nobody was negated on Day 3.

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If nobody was negated, BDS would need 5 total votes to be lynched (out of 8 possible votes). With FA, fank, me, and Bubbles, this would be reached. It doesn't matter who of us was the double-vote wolf. Dudeman is Shellmon and I should be lynched. I'm trying to think of anything else that could be said here, but nothing comes to mind. Like I said, this one is simple.

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Dudeman is the Psychic wolf and fank is Betamon:

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I negate Dudeman's power on Night 3. His power does not activate that Night or Day 3. BDS would need 5 total votes to be lynched (out of 8 possible votes). With FA, fank, me, and Bubbles, this would be reached. However, fank said that there was one blue left. So it would appear that the Psychic Ability activated. I find this to be the least likely of these scenarios.

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Dudeman is Betamon and fank is the Psychic Wolf:

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I negate Dudeman's power on Night 3. His power does not activate that Night or Day 3. BDS would need 4 people voting for him to be lynched (out of 7). With FA, fank, me, and Bubbles, this would be reached. fank mentioned that there was one blue left. This would mean that he was the Psychic. From what I can tell, everything fits.

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Am I missing anything?

[Bubbles]

Scenario 2 could be possible because Dudeman could have gotten the number of blues on night 2 and just counted up to day 3. If he was told there were 2 blues he could have just subtracted Olimar and BDS after they died (and not needed the update on night 3)

[Bubbles]

Ok what about this. I claim blue (sUrPrIsE!!) If Brawler is Leomon and fank had contact with the wolf psychic, why did he say there was only one blue left in the game?

[Brawler4Ever]

I was assuming that he was referring to me (fank's point: not a vigi, thus we were hopeless).

Bubbles, at the end of which phase did you become Agumon? Fank has it as the end of Day 3 / beginning of Night 4. Is that correct?