TWG 71: Masquerade

[TWG VermillionDollars]

I'm really can't follow your logic. What you're saying is that if I had not said that phrase, you wouldn't be suspicious of me at all? A single phrase that I only said because I had only posted once in the night phase? A perfectly straightforward phrase that is nothing but a literal observation of the situation? I'm not sure you realize how absurd that is.

How absurd is it for you to say you need to post more when all that transpired was night 1- a phase where traditionally not many people post?  All the same, your reaction is good enough for me that I'm comfortable switching my vote away from you.  Safety on TWG Haruhi Swedernogen.

[TWG VermillionDollars]

Come to the chat quick!
http://us20.chatzy.com/14355731614748

[TWG VermillionDollars]

TWG Tingle for now, pretty good thoughts in the chat.

[TWG Haruhi Suzumiya]

TWG Tingle for now, pretty good thoughts in the chat.

Want to post a log?

[TWG VermillionDollars]

Want to post a log?

Not at the moment, no, but maybe after night.

[TWG Falcon]

Want to post a log?

You can come into the chat if you can and see it yourself

[TWG Ness]

It turns out I had a pretty huge misunderstanding of how the whole disguise mechanic works, but I'm pretty sure I've got it all sorted out now!

As far as I can see, since the wolves can disguise every night phase, why not? If anything, it would make more sense to use the disguise power as early as possible. I agree that being inactive would probably work as a wolf (at least in the beginning), but inactive humans would actually be beneficial to them as well for the same reason. A human that hasn't posted much and doesn't have much of a text-based identity could easily be replaced without a huge noticeable change in character (though neither of these really help in my case, since it actually makes sense to go after the inactives on Day 1).

Besides myself, the only other fairly inactive players are Kirby and Pikachu (and maybee Haruhi). I'd say out of the three TWG Kirby has been the least useful, as the other two have given at least one thought out post each (here and here respectively).

[TWG Kirby]

as the other two have given at least one thought out post each

Looking at the thread, I'm more inclined to believe that Waluigi was simply a normal night 1 wolfing rather than the wolf disguiser. Waluigi was trying to take a leadership position, and suggested ideas for the humans to follow. Being "wolfed" would have been detrimental to this position, and wouldn't have made much sense from a wolf standpoint.

Oh, so cardflip can't be trusted during the night.

Well I still think that Waluigi was human. Playing the leader role and getting wolved would be pointless.

TWG Ness, on the grounds that "we're probably lynching inactives today and he's only posted once."

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[TWG Kirby]

Also:

Want to post a log?

Everything posted in the chat in the last 24 hours

TWG Pikachu joined the chat 29 hours ago
TWG Pikachu: yay.
TWG Pikachu: Also there was no yellow so like was next best~
TWG Pikachu: Pink
TWG Pikachu: Damnit
TWG Pikachu: Also what is Kirby's point
TWG Pikachu: I don't get it
TWG Pikachu joined the chat 28 hours ago
TWG Pikachu: Oops
TWG Pikachu: Lol clicked out
TWG Pikachu: Actually I should go to bed
TWG Pikachu: frown
TWG Pikachu: I might safety on kirby rn
TWG Pikachu: Nvm I have a day
TWG Pikachu: Lol
TWG Pikachu: Byeeeee
VroomVroom: back
TWG Falcon joined the chat 26 hours ago
TWG Falcon: back
TWG Falcon: in case you all missed me
TWG Falcon joined the chat 25 hours ago
TWG Falcon was timed out 23 hours ago
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TWG Falcon joined the chat 21 hours ago
TWG Tingle joined the chat 20 hours ago
TWG Tingle: look
TWG Tingle: a green little man
TWG Tingle: poke him with sticks
TWG Tingle: There's chat history in this one?!?
TWG Tingle: Lets use this more often!
TWG Tingle: Back soon!
TWG Tingle joined the chat 19 hours ago
TWG Tingle: nothing?
TWG Tingle: D:
TWG Tingle: tongue
TWG Tingle: I am not sure how I feel about this tounge emote.
TWG Falcon joined the chat 16 hours ago
TWG Falcon: ..
Vermverm joined the chat 15 hours ago
Vermverm: Darn, nobody here
Vermverm: if only I had had internet earlier
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VroomVroom joined the chat 13 hours ago
VermillionDollars joined the chat 12 hours ago
Vermilla joined the chat 9 hours ago
TWG Falcon joined the chat 7 hours ago
TWG Falcon: ...
TWG Falcon: think about it,
TWG Falcon: chat backdates
TWG Falcon: I'm going to be adding thoughts why no ones here.
TWG Falcon: so that people can readup on my thoughts.
TWG Falcon: Thoughts
TWG Falcon: Ness- Deadbeat weight
TWG Falcon: VD- Mr leader
TWG Pikachu joined the chat 5 hours ago
TWG Pikachu: It really stinks that people didn't talk more during night 1
TWG Pikachu: We might have been able to get a better reading on people frown
TWG Pikachu: Bah.
TWG Pikachu: Oh well too late now.
TWG Falcon joined the chat 4 hours ago
TWG Falcon: hi
VroomVroom joined the chat 3 hours ago
VroomVroom: Wassup
VroomVroom: I like your idea about leaving thoughts here, good point
VroomVroom: brb gathering thoughts
TWG Samus joined the chat 3 hours ago
TWG Samus: Not many people here?
TWG Falcon: hey VD/samus
VroomVroom: Hi sam
TWG Samus: who is vroomvroom
TWG Falcon: not many people here, but all hte right ones
VroomVroom: So
VroomVroom: I know who both of you are
TWG Falcon: you know whats scary...
VroomVroom: and Samus, since I do know who you are, you've started to act human after my accusations, fortunately for you.
TWG Falcon: e lack of "frivolous posts"
VroomVroom: that's because mashi may or may not be dead
TWG Samus: </3
VroomVroom: Lol you slipped up bigtime today and I was online to notice.
TWG Falcon: there's only one death.
VroomVroom: You solidified my guesses for identities
VroomVroom: and in doing so you somewhat cleared yourself
TWG Samus: You saw my post?
VroomVroom: Yep >big grin
TWG Samus: Arrr...
VroomVroom: evil smiley
VroomVroom: anyway, you have a habit of getting very angry as a human.
TWG Samus: tongue
VroomVroom: So I'm hoping that you haven't suddenly learned to replicate it
VroomVroom: usually as a wolf you're more calculating than "really you're so dumb for going after me like that how desperate are you"
Ness joined the chat 3 hours ago
TWG Falcon: ... look who finally decided to turn up
VroomVroom: The prodigal son arrives?
VroomVroom: It's okay I know who you are too. you might be a wolf right now.
Ness: heh
Ness: sorry about being nonexistant
Ness: but i didnt know the phase ends tomorrow so i have plenty of time
TWG Samus: I'll be back later; I have to eat right now.
VroomVroom: I KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!!
VroomVroom: So, idea number 1:
Ness: well its probably not that hard to guess
Ness: im terrible at pretending to be someone else and im pretty distinct i guess
VroomVroom: Waluigi was mashi being frivolous, gets lynched
Ness: wait
Ness: who are you
VroomVroom: No I know who Samus is
VroomVroom: and you
VroomVroom: and falcon
VroomVroom: and Haruhi Swsianglkreg
VroomVroom: and Kirby
Ness: haruhi is easy
VroomVroom: and Pikachu
Ness: i think
VroomVroom: Oh?
Ness: but whats your twg name mr vroom vroom?
VroomVroom: VermillionDollars
VroomVroom: Idea number 2:
VroomVroom: and bear with me here this is a stretch.
VroomVroom: It all depends on if you think mashi would go WAH WAH WAH
TWG Falcon: mashi types in caps?
Ness: no
Ness: mashi wouldnt
VroomVroom: then that would mean waluigi was disguised
Ness: but why are you worrying about whos who?
Ness: oh wait
VroomVroom: easier to find tells and leans
Ness: uh im going to actually read the thread
VroomVroom: for example BDS gets characteristically angry as a human
TWG Falcon: Ness, its some form of guising code
TWG Falcon: certain people write certain ways
VroomVroom: now that I know who everyone is
VroomVroom: I can pick up on disguises in the future
VroomVroom: SO
VroomVroom: If mashi wouldn't go WAH WAH WAH
VroomVroom: who would?
VroomVroom: I would think most likely maelstrom. or TST.
TWG Falco joined the chat 3 hours ago
VroomVroom: However, TST was quick to ask a question about the plan where nobody else was.
VroomVroom: Good evidence that TST has always been TST.
TWG Falcon joined the chat 3 hours ago
TWG Falcon: :/
VroomVroom: lol
Ness: verm im just disappointed you dont know hot to spell suzumiya
TWG Falcon: maybe its on purpose?
VroomVroom: So that leaves the alt accounts Haruhi Swnegaioban, Kirby, Pika and Samus
VroomVroom: yugi you're cleared for being yugi night 1
VroomVroom: pika is definitely still human
VroomVroom: hard for me to get a lean on kirby
VroomVroom: which leaves Haruhi Snabavareil
VroomVroom: So option 2,
VroomVroom: in my mind,
TWG Falcon: kirby and haruhi seem to be playing off each other
VroomVroom: Maelstrom. is a wolf partnered with a much more knowledgeable player
VroomVroom: perhaps kirby
VroomVroom: at any rate
VroomVroom: maelstrom WAS Waluigi
VroomVroom: and proposed the plan
TWG Falcon: maybe
VroomVroom: again this would require a stronger player than mael
TWG Falcon: ...
TWG Falcon: ^
VroomVroom: because WAH WAH WAH is definitely something mael would do
TWG Falcon: mael I would read more as tingle
VroomVroom: Nah.
TWG Falcon: can see a lot of mael in his posts.
VroomVroom: So anyway, maelstrom. disguises as Haruhi Spaeandkfah
VroomVroom: which is unlikely
VroomVroom: and /options
VroomVroom: thoughts/
VroomVroom: ?
Ness: im not following
Ness: is that hypothetical or do you think thats what happened?
VroomVroom: my 2 most likely options
VroomVroom: option 1 is more plausible
VroomVroom: but if you don't think mashi would WAH WAH WAH we need to find alternatives
Ness: but a wolf cant disguise unless its the one they killed
VroomVroom: Falcon have you figured out who I am yet? tongue
TWG Falcon: Maybe he's holding out to the frivolous on purpose
VroomVroom: So give me your thoughts on tingle
TWG Falcon: No.
Ness: oh wow
Ness: i didnt even know there was a player list in the beginning
TWG Falcon: Anyway...
Ness: with the original nsm names
TWG Falcon: I have a hunch tingle is mael
TWG Falcon: and that mael is human.
VroomVroom: ...
TWG Falcon: I need to see more to confirm that hunch.
VroomVroom: (using your lingo here, caught up)
TWG Falcon: hence the resure
VroomVroom: ...
VroomVroom: like what I'm doing with samus
TWG Falcon: ^ya
VroomVroom: alright.
VroomVroom: with that logic
TWG Falcon: posts that seem to demonstrate that tingle is mael.
VroomVroom: Tingle being mael.
TWG Falcon: http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topi...
VroomVroom: he'll sort of have a couple arguments but wouldn't be able to come up with anything super strong, based off of past games.
TWG Falcon: .. this http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topi... doesnt make sense.
TWG Falcon: with that argument.
TWG Falcon: of tingle being mael, maybe its just character that I'm not used to
TWG Falcon: (and we have a way for mashi to be waluigi
TWG Falcon: http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topi... this analysis is mael worthy... though there are a few others that could fall into it too...
TWG Falcon: otherwise, I have a strong sense that Tingle/Samus could be buddies
VroomVroom: alright
VroomVroom: as near as I can tell with NSM's terrible search feature,
VroomVroom: maelstrom. has never used <3 in any of his posts.
TWG Falcon: ok...
TWG Falcon: there goes that theory...
TWG Falcon Pushes on Tingle wagon
VroomVroom: I just voted for tingle to up the pressure anyhow.
VroomVroom: So falcon, how human are you?
VroomVroom: you still need to clear yourself to me
TWG Falcon: And vice versa wink
VroomVroom: Oh brother tongue
VroomVroom: Once you've cleared yourself I can pretty much lead the humans, with a backup safety
TWG Falcon: even though if I do clear myself, Am I really going to be trustworthy all of a sudden?
TWG Falcon: besides even If I am crafty, I have tendacies
TWG Falcon: I always put myself into a hole as a wolf.
TWG Falcon: (too many clears/not enough lynches)
TWG Falcon: so that is something I can only say, will be seen over time.
VroomVroom: I claim mason.
TWG Samus joined the chat 2 hours ago
TWG Samus: Going back to read.
TWG Falcon: now that is a revelation
TWG Samus: Hm.
VroomVroom: SO I just claim mason and the biggest thing anyone says is "revelation"
VroomVroom: no plan or anything?
TWG Falcon: ...
TWG Falcon: the guy whos supposed to make up the plan wonders why there is no plan in place?
Ness joined the chat 96 minutes ago
Ness: so is everyone done talking then?
Ness: im making a post now but i have to go soon
TWG Falcon: if you have something new to pike up.
TWG Falcon: its boring repeating the same thing every so often
Ness: TWG Falcon: Thoughts TWG Falcon: Ness- Deadbeat weight
Ness: D:
TWG Falcon: well, you are as good as a deadbeight in my opinion ness, not really contributed anything
TWG Samus was timed out 46 minutes ago
TWG Kirby joined the chat 45 seconds ago
TWG Kirby: Hey guys I can talk now --oh nobody's here

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[TWG Pikachu]

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1. http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6384.msg254477#msg254477

2. http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6384.msg254525#msg254525

3. http://forum.ninsheetm.us/index.php?topic=6384.msg254551#msg254551

Pretty sure you're just rehashing what everyone is already saying to cover yourself.

I'm done listening to you. TWG Kirby

[TWG Kirby]

So I'm not allowed to have the same opinion as someone else, or follow their ideas?

Okay then.

[TWG VermillionDollars]

So I'm not allowed to have the same opinion as someone else, or follow their ideas?

Okay then.

Agreeing with someone is different from rewriting what they've stated.  We've heard multiple opinions on what happened to waluigi.  You're literally just fixing words around and saying the same things.

[TWG Tingle]

Votes so far?

1. TWG Ness- Inactive as.
2. TWG Pikachu- Kirby
3. TWG Waluigi
4. TWG Falcon- Tingle
5. TWG Samus- Undecided
6. TWG Tingle- Deciding
7. TWG VermillionDollars- Tingle
8. TWG Haruhi Suzumiya- Busy reality warping.
9. TWG Kirby- Ness

Tingle: 2 (!)
Ness: 1
Kirby: 1

Hours until Tingle-cide? Er, about six?

I'm going to need to get thinking about my vote, seems wrong to safety with a decent amount of activity.

[TWG Haruhi Suzumiya]

I'm voting Tingle for now. It just seems weird that his long analysis was the first post he made after the killing/disguising.

[TWG Haruhi Suzumiya]

Anyone in the chat?