TWG 67: The Werewolf Game? More Like The Werewolf DEAD!!!

[Yugi]

If I'd be Bird, why would I kill the person who could unite me and BDS. Same goes for if I'd be BDS, if I'd believe him.

Because you were the one who suggested it in the first place?

[Dude]

Safety on Olimar I guess

[Dude]

Anyone want to chat?

[Waddle Bro]

Because you were the one who suggested it in the first place?

I did, but I derped out. That's why I didn't include claiming to davy in the tl;dr but I didn't feel like erasing what I had written.

[Yugi]

I'm going to be away for the rest of the phase, so I'm going to vote for waddle bro, mostly for fanks reasons, and that i'm unconvinced by his defense

[Waddle Bro]

chat with mii while I'm typing a post

especially dude because he's the most fun and cool guy here

[Dude]

Fank

[Waddle Bro]

The pattern in the TWG now:

1. Someone shows activity to come up with a plan
2. people find it suspicious
3. person who came up with the plan gets lynched
4. twg ends as a flop because no one else posts to stir up activity enough and just end up rolling with it

Like seriously, no one even bothers to post back-up options and are like "i think waddle is the most suspicious idgaf about anyone else as long as i live" instead of giving some valuable input like secondary suspicions and such.

No one even bothered replying to the reroll-idea, out of 8 potential people.
No one bothered to mention of Fank who says he's okay with davy vigi and then goes all over my ass like "im shoving my dick in there wether you like it or not" because I was the one suggesting davy vigi for a reason. Honestly, you guys could've all said like "no, vigi *insert name* just to confirm that you're not BDS and get some conversation going on here. Fank actually even knew the way to counter davy being vigi'd and helping Bird come closer to victory:

whats the best way to counter that? pretend to be BDS and to send vig suggestions to confuse the two and hope they miss...

but he just let it happen. It's like he wanted me to die today. Just saying he's not as innocent as he seems to be.

You think I'm Bird, but I could just as easily be wolf, who's just trying to gain Bird's trustworthiness if I plan to claim BDS and sell him out to the public and win, let that sink in for a moment
You know I could be capable of doing that.

I'm gonna vote for fank, because he knew how to counter Bird's and BDS' co-operation, but didn't feel it necessary actually prevent it because he knew he could get me lynched easily

[Waddle Bro]

also fank get in chat

[fank009]

Everyone else get in the chat.

[Waddle Bro]

03:27      *** fank009 joined #TWGNSM
03:27   waladdin   so fank
03:28   fank009   ...
03:28   waladdin   why did you not share your info of preventing davy and bds coordinating their moves
03:28   fank009    explain again?
03:29   waladdin   Read my post
03:29   waladdin   Don't try to play time
03:29   fank009   yeah, I have,
03:30   fank009   I still dont see the angle your coming from
03:30   waladdin   you knew how to counter BDS winning
03:30   waladdin   instead you didn't do anything but let it happen
03:30   fank009   and I doubt you understand how this works...
03:30   waladdin   Then explain.
03:31   fank009   i was hoping for someone else to spot the contradiction
03:31   waladdin   Yeah sure.
03:31   waladdin   No one did
03:31   fank009   (note on mobile)
03:32   fank009   this game is about controlling the votes
03:32   waladdin   You do realize the gains from countering that plan would have been bigger than the negatives
03:32   fank009   the majority wins
03:32   waladdin   What is your (unrelated) point?
03:33   waladdin   Also did you save the log from last night
03:33   waladdin   *yesterday
03:33   fank009   killing davy, who needed bird to win was a mistake
03:33   fank009   i should have the log yeah
03:33   waladdin   Still you said that was okay
03:34   fank009   because, to not offend anyone
03:34   waladdin   "davy, as TST can be a fine N1 vig target"
03:34   fank009   he doesnt need to be alive to win
03:35   fank009   if I said wolf should die he would be offended and not vote with me (obviously)
03:36   fank009   i mentioned that something was off against vigging davy
03:37   waladdin   That seemed more like playing safe
03:37   fank009   the bit before was playing safe
03:37   waladdin   That doesn't change how you didn't prevent BDS and Bird coordinating
03:38   fank009   ...
03:38   waladdin   Also there's no wolves in this game
03:38   fank009   and what does that have to do?
03:38   fank009   no wolves, but there are teams
03:38   waladdin   There aren't teams
03:39   waladdin   Just single players.
***Then the chat goes on about Fank arguing of how this game includes "teams"***
03:39   fank009   there are...
03:39   waladdin   Nope.
03:39   waladdin   Also can you PM me the log from last night
03:39   fank009   some people can only win in certain ways
03:39   waladdin   True, but that doesn't make teams
03:39   fank009   i.e, noct/bird are a team
03:40   fank009   I cant right now
03:40   waladdin   That's not a team
03:40   fank009   but I'll try
03:40   waladdin   That's just winning conditions
03:40   fank009   [12:42:05] <waladdin> That's just winning conditions
03:40   waladdin   In a team players are told who their teammates are
03:41   fank009   if bird loses noct loses
03:41   fank009   [12:42:26] <waladdin> In a team players are told who their teammates are
03:41   fank009   of course not
03:41   waladdin   03:41   fank009   if bird loses noct loses
03:41   waladdin   Nope
03:41   fank009   but for the sake of english
03:41   waladdin   Bird can die, but for example verm can live
03:42   waladdin   that's why Yugi won't win and Noct will win and Bird won't
03:42   fank009   ... so how does the game end?
03:42   waladdin   The game ends when all the players who can win have won
03:42   fank009   and final 3 of noct/verm/yugi
03:43   fank009   (or anyone with verm/yugi)
03:43   fank009   would let verm be lynched
03:43   waladdin   Why are you even arguing about that
03:43   waladdin   You're wrong
03:44   fank009   ...
***Here chat goes normal***
03:44   fank009   maybe im just trying to get oneup on you?
03:45   fank009   or show you something else          (lol)
03:45   fank009   i have a rebuttal for you.
03:45   fank009   and yourargument.
03:45   fank009   so
03:46   fank009   you said you might be wolf
03:46   Dude   ugh the skype room is sucking major tits right now
03:46   Dude   just wanted to say that
03:47   fank009   and tricking bird was the plan
03:47   fank009   yet
03:48   waladdin   yet what
03:48   Dude   yeah yet what
03:49   waladdin   Cmon Fank
03:49   waladdin   Don't keep us waiting
03:49   Dude   the suspense is killing us
03:49   fank009   yet,you use the same logic against me...
03:49   waladdin   That took a while to type
03:49   waladdin   How
03:50   Dude   omg i remember now why i hated raymondbl
03:50   fank009   your lynvhing me
03:50   Dude   omg i remember now why i hated raymondbl
03:50   fank009   your lynvhing me
03:50   Dude   why did i pm him
03:50   waladdin   Best logic fank
03:50   Dude   why
03:50   fank009   cause Im anti bird/bds
03:51   fank009   if you claim you could do what you do as wolf,
03:51   waladdin   If you're really anti-BDS/Bird, why did you let them help eachother?
03:51   waladdin   Answer that.
03:52   fank009   why are you lynching someone anti bird/bds?
03:52   waladdin   I don't.
03:52   waladdin   I doubt you're anti-BDS/bird
03:52   Dude   but what if we aren't lynching someone anti bird/bds
03:52   waladdin   That's why I'd lynch you.
03:52   waladdin   Yeah
03:52   waladdin   what Dude said
03:53   Dude   http://www.dramabutton.com/
03:54   fank009    one moment
03:54   fank009   switching platforms
03:55   Dude   k
03:56   Dude   i should probably gooo
03:56   Dude   byeeee
03:56   Dude   I'LL TALK TO YOU AGAIN I PROMISE
03:56   Dude   BYEEEEE
03:56   waladdin   BYE DUDE
03:56   waladdin   I LOVE YOU
03:56      *** Dude quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
03:58   waladdin   I g2g in a bit too.
tl;dr Fank seemed really dodgy in the chat, and I was hoping to show the log from yesterday, where Fank was acting really arrogantly towards me.

Fank said that he knew about the countering BDS/Bird winning easier together, because he "wanted to see how people would react". And he claims to be anti-Bird/BDS, with a role that needs Bird to die in order to win. Still he helped him a lot. Makes no sense.
Imagine, being Bird and lynching a guy who seems to be BDS to everybody(aka me), would get Bird far because no one would suspect him, because who'd lynch one of their main win helpers.

Also here's a fun convo of fank lying about playing mario kart wii
http://www.nintendo.com/whatsnew/detail/vyWpoM6CBIe6FjW8NIY7bvzOrgBURhzw

Spoiler

04:05   waladdin   Fank did you play mario kart today yet
04:05   fankpc   ...
04:06   fankpc   played it last night
04:06   fankpc   wait
04:06   fankpc   which kart?
04:06   waladdin   Wii
04:06   fankpc   yeah
04:06   waladdin   Funny
04:06   waladdin   They took away Wi-Fi connection last night

[close]

I hope you active people who actually look this thread, like K-Night and Olimar would consider voting fank instead of me, even if I'd die, don't let him get off the hook.
Hope my game won't be over when I wake up.

[Waddle Bro]

Also remember how Mashi's power fucks votes up, so try to be as anonymous as you can

[Waddle Bro]

wait not anonymous idk the word

[fank009]

An unrelated objection to MKWii...
you forgot, what time zone Im in???
I have physical proof, that I was playing mario kart wii last night. (NZT).

why are you even bringing that up? want to discredit me further?

tl;dr Fank seemed really dodgy in the chat, and I was hoping to show the log from yesterday, where Fank was acting really arrogantly towards me.

Fank said that he knew about the countering BDS/Bird winning easier together, because he "wanted to see how people would react". And he claims to be anti-Bird/BDS, with a role that needs Bird to die in order to win. Still he helped him a lot. Makes no sense.
Imagine, being Bird and lynching a guy who seems to be BDS to everybody(aka me), would get Bird far because no one would suspect him, because who'd lynch one of their main win helpers.


I hope you active people who actually look this thread, like K-Night and Olimar would consider voting fank instead of me, even if I'd die, don't let him get off the hook.
Hope my game won't be over when I wake up.

The chat doesnt show nothing.
How can "one be dodgy" in this game, we all have our own motives to follow, because I aint following yours doesnt make me "dodgy" and that doesnt make me a threat "for everybody to kill"

-You really are grasping at straws... I think my intention should already be plain.
-Im anti bird/bds? I just stated what you were saying, and If I was anti bird/BDS, what does that make you?
Q, How did I help them out? If yugi was lynched you could maybe argue the fact... (mind you, it is somewhat the base of my argument on you, (with a twist)

-If I was bird, Why did davy die?, I clearly stated that I wasnt keen on him being vigged (the brackets duh). besides, I was pushing on yugi more. and dropping hints on yugi....

me being dead, isnt going to help you. you being dead, while not necesarily helping me, may end up helping others. your argurment is basically grasping at straws, when in all reality is, is that you see me as a foe, no matter what role you actually turn out to be.

you have the best bet of being bird over anyone else here. and Im going to move forward, with a nice backup plan just in case

[The_Subjective_Thought]

Frankly (fankly), this discussion is actually frivolous.

Fank is barking at waddle, waddle is hitting Fank with a newspaper. I don't actually find either side of this convincing and feel that the only people "grasping at straws", as Fank so eloquently puts it, are the people going along with his vote.

In the interest of actually bringing the vote upon someone who isn't contributing fun or profit I'm voting for Nocturne of Shadows