TWG 61: We have always been at war with Eurasia

[Bird]

Toby what happened to your phone?

And not sure who to vote for at the moment. I was planning on starting the phase with a vote for BDS, but I guess that's not happening now. I guess I'll go with k-NiGhT. I don't know why he said he "finally got his role PM" since the human PMs were sent out via BCC simultaneously, but obviously that's not a lot to go off of at the moment!

Also, think about who you want lynched but also about who you want seered. At first I wondered if publicly stating opinions about seering would be a good idea or not (since I figured if the consensus was we should seer Wolf A, they would just use the switch power on us), but I realize now that if that happened it would probably incriminate that wolf anyway. And I doubt they would throw away their switch power just to incriminate some human.

I think Nakah would be the best seer choice, since I don't know if people would be willing to lynch him unless he was red. Plus nobody here has played with him in a while, and I feel like his asking to be seered could be a gambit to avoid it.

And the seer should obviously claim the following day phase.

[Bird]

Oh, and I guess I'm getting a bit ahead of myself, but I don't think that the seers should actually share their results with the thread unless they get a red result. It sucks, but it keeps confirmed humans safe.

[fank009]

And not sure who to vote for at the moment. I was planning on starting the phase with a vote for BDS, but I guess that's not happening now. I guess I'll go with k-NiGhT. I don't know why he said he "finally got his role PM" since the human PMs were sent out via BCC simultaneously, but obviously that's not a lot to go off of at the moment!

Also, think about who you want lynched but also about who you want seered. At first I wondered if publicly stating opinions about seering would be a good idea or not (since I figured if the consensus was we should seer Wolf A, they would just use the switch power on us), but I realize now that if that happened it would probably incriminate that wolf anyway. And I doubt they would throw away their switch power just to incriminate some human.

-its enough for a vote though isnt it bird? there was no error on liggy's part that made K-nights pm late???

-this is prolly the worst idea in existence... in my biased opinion.

Bird, even though you are showing all these wolfish traits (TST: what wolfish traits?)... there is one standalone point that makes me believe that you are a human.

thinking back to BDS being wolfed, I definitely feel like there was a reason to the wolfing... (rather than it being random/coincidence)

[Toby]

Toby what happened to your phone?

Someone stole it 

[K-NiGhT]

And not sure who to vote for at the moment. I was planning on starting the phase with a vote for BDS, but I guess that's not happening now. I guess I'll go with k-NiGhT. I don't know why he said he "finally got his role PM" since the human PMs were sent out via BCC simultaneously, but obviously that's not a lot to go off of at the moment!

Liggy forgot to send me a role PM so I didn't get one until after the fact. He can confirm this.

[Dude]

Safety on fank for now

omfg my head hurts so bad.

[The_Subjective_Thought]

TST: what wolfish traits?

Ah fank, you know me so well. 

[Toby]

You guys should take into consideration the possibility that K-night might be the Brotherhood Leader.

[Nakah]

More likely than not Liggy just forgot to add him to the Human PM list. Also calling out the brotherhood leader is a terrible idea for the humans, Toby.

[fank009]

More likely than not Liggy just forgot to add him to the Human PM list. Also calling out the brotherhood leader is a terrible idea for the humans, Toby.

^this
toby

[Toby]

More likely than not Liggy just forgot to add him to the Human PM list. Also calling out the brotherhood leader is a terrible idea for the humans, Toby.

Don't you think the wolves already know this by Bird calling him out in the first place? Plus, the wolves might even leave K-Night alone seeing as it'll just bring suspicion towards him.

[Toby]

I've been in the chat for like 3 hours and no one has joined yet a few posts have been made, please join me:
http://client01.chat.mibbit.com/?server=irc.NFnet.org&channel=%23TWGNSM

[Greg]

More likely than not Liggy just forgot to add him to the Human PM list. Also calling out the brotherhood leader is a terrible idea for the humans, Toby.

It makes no sense to accuse Toby on the basis of this! Basically you're saying, if he's a wolf, he's calling out the brotherhood leader... to himself. If he was a wolf who had become aware of that possibility I'm pretty sure he would have kept it quiet. He was probably just trying to stop K-Night from getting lynched.

[fank009]

It makes no sense to accuse Toby on the basis of this! Basically you're saying, if he's a wolf, he's calling out the brotherhood leader... to himself. If he was a wolf who had become aware of that possibility I'm pretty sure he would have kept it quiet. He was probably just trying to stop K-Night from getting lynched.

Maybe your onto something...
Also this... If K-night was leader, and Toby thought on it.. wouldnt toby as a wolf guess the leader???

unvote for now (after thinking about it)

[Nakah]

The wolves can only make a guess at night though. I'm just putting some pressure on you Toby to elicit a response. No need to panic. I'll switch to a safety on bubbles for now though, until we hear more(or anything for that matter) out of this one.