TWG 60: 2fool4skool

[Greg]

I'm going to go ahead and say that we shouldn't lynch TST yet I guess? He's evidently either a wolf or a fool, but blatantly faking a PM like that feels kinda like suicide.

Also, Greg, why maestro?

It's a safety, there's no why. I'm just voting him temporarily.

[Toby]

Knew it.

Just remember what I said and think about it.

[Waddle Bro]

Guys this is ridiculous. I had my suspicions that TST's pm was forged, but that one from me is OBVIOUSLY fake. It takes literally no effort to create fake quotes from pms. Look, I'll even make one:

Since private messages are private, they only link you to the sender's profile. Hell, even if you did post a sincere pm, you could easily alter the text.

I don't get why a would human/wolf try to talk his way out of being a fool. But considering it's Olimar, who I think just defended himself without thinking, because (no hard feelings of what I'm about to say!)let's face it. I don't believe he's that good in TWG. Olimar doesn't take shit when it's thrown right on his face. He defends himself. Like a man.

Then there's TST, who I believe could easily forge a fake PM.

I am very strongly suspecting that TST is a fool, and Olimar is a human.

Also, I'm going to vote for FSM-Reapr. He said he's going to be active and do something for the human team. All I see are silly posts. Every time he's a human, he's always super active. In "All the King's Men", where FSM was a wolf, he was inactive and manipulated his way to the end. Considering this would be his second time as a wolf, it's likely he hasn't grown out from his habits. I don't think FSM could claim fool, if he'd be one.

[FSM-Reapr]

Well sorrey for being busy and not knowing who to lynch.

[Olimar12345]

It's a safety, there's no why. I'm just voting him temporarily.

Sorry for not knowing this, but does voting someone safety mean that you're voting for them just to vote for someone? I honestly didn't think to do something like this.

[vermilionvermin]

FSM-Reapr

I'm very confident that FSM is not a human, and that's good enough to warrant a vote today.  Here's how I see it.  Claiming fool has little to no benefits as a human and a mountain of risk.  Not getting wolfed is nice, but it's really minor when the risk is that you get yourself lynched.  As a wolf, you risk being lynched, sure, but if you think it's more likely that humans will avoid lynching you, well, you've got yourself set.  As a fool, I don't know why FSM would try such a gambit because it's really, really easy to win as a fool.

[MaestroUGC]

I'm in agreeance with an FSM lynch, it seems more like it was a ploy to avoid lynching him as a wolf than as a fool.

FSM-Reapr

Also Waddle, Who's Online stalking, really?

[Waddle Bro]

I was bored, shaddup Maestro.

[Greg]

Sorry for not knowing this, but does voting someone safety mean that you're voting for them just to vote for someone? I honestly didn't think to do something like this.

It's used to avoid phantoms.

Anyway, I'm also going to tack a vote onto FSM, even though I'm not convinced he's a wolf (if he's a fool, his plan's certainly working!), since there's still a pretty good chance he is one and he's been supremely unhelpful.

[fank009]

FSM-Reapr

I'm very confident that FSM is not a human, and that's good enough to warrant a vote today.  Here's how I see it.  Claiming fool has little to no benefits as a human and a mountain of risk.  Not getting wolfed is nice, but it's really minor when the risk is that you get yourself lynched.  As a wolf, you risk being lynched, sure, but if you think it's more likely that humans will avoid lynching you, well, you've got yourself set.  As a fool, I don't know why FSM would try such a gambit because it's really, really easy to win as a fool.

(psst, its somewhat harder than it looks to win as fool...)
FSM, im somewhat tossed, the votes now should be the staple point as to FSM being wolf/fool
the only case I can think of for him NOT being a fool stems from the TST encounter

oh, and unvote for now

[BlackDragonSlayer]

He said he's going to be active and do something for the human team. All I see are silly posts. Every time he's a human, he's always super active.

I agree with all of Waddle's accusation except for this part; during Day 1 of All the King's Men, FSM was making at least somewhat (seemingly ) contributive posts, but now, it seems like he's almost hesitant to help the humans (as in, openly hesitant to say too much).

I do agree with Greg that FSM might really be a fool trying to get us to lynch him (or using crazy-logic on us and just trying to make us think that).

Right now, I'll hold off voting for FSM just yet, but then again, I can't really see lynching anybody else, and he WAS my original lynching choice...

[Mashi]

1. FSM-Reapr - Not entirely sure about the notion that he's a Wolf, but I am rather sure he's either a Fool or a Wolf.  There's no incentive to do what he did as a Human.  I'm inclined to believe he's the Fool, however.
2. MaestroUGC - No strong opinions.
3. vermilionvermin - I imagine him to be practically unreadable this game.  As a Fool or Wolf, I imagine he wouldn't purposely act overtly suspicious.  He'll definitely have some sort of scheme as a Fool though, one that won't be apparent.
4. Waddle Bro - No strong opinions.
5. The_Subjective_Thought - Not sure about him.  Seems to be lax so far in the game based on his PM to FSM-Reapr and me.  Not completely sure of whether his PM from Olimar12345 is forged though; I'm inclined to think it's not for the time being though.  I can confirm his Role of the Stumbler, as that is part of the Role list sent to me in my Role PM by Bird.  Either way, I'm thinking he's either a Fool or a Wolf.
6. davy - No strong opinions.
7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf - He was my Please Assistant. RIP
8. fank009 - Seems Human based on his posts.
9. Mashi - I am the Please.  I've only received 3 claims though!!!
10. Bubbles - I'm not sure why she feels that we should keep FSM-Reapr alive if she feels he's not the Fool.  So I'm t
11. Olimar12345 - I'm imagining he's likely Fool due to his ostensible ploy with The_Subjective_Thought.  If he's Human though, I think it's very likely that The_Subjective_Thought is the Fool, as Waddle Bro mentioned.
12. Greg - No strong opinions.
13. BlackDragonSlayer - No strong opinions.

[MaestroUGC]

No part of this game is a mystery game. The only roles, effects and powers are the ones listed in the first post of the topic.

5. The_Subjective_Thought - Not sure about him.  Seems to be lax so far in the game based on his PM to FSM-Reapr and me.  Not completely sure of whether his PM from Olimar12345 is forged though; I'm inclined to think it's not for the time being though.  I can confirm his Role of the Stumbler, as that is part of the Role list sent to me in my Role PM by Bird.  Either way, I'm thinking he's either a Fool or a Wolf.

No part of this game is a mystery game. The only roles, effects and powers are the ones listed in the first post of the topic.

Am I missing something here?

[BlackDragonSlayer]

Am I missing something here?

Either Bird is trying to keep the mystery aspect intact (which I doubt), or there's something not quite right about Mashi and TST... da'ah, it's too late, I already claimed to him!!

[Mashi]

Bird is duping you all.

And I now have 4 claims!!!  Except one of those claims was just "CLAIM" so I think I still technically only have 3!!!