Super Smash Bros Fisticuffs for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS

[Maelstrom]

Imo, 4 may be better for competitive. It's just because there are so many viable options, as opposed to Melee.

[KefkaticFanatic]

4 is super boring to even watch though, the game is too damn slow and floaty.  It might have more high level options but the mechanical depth just isn't there.

[Maelstrom]

4 is super boring to even watch though, the game is too damn slow and floaty.  It might have more high level options but the mechanical depth just isn't there.

Really? I haven't gotten that from the matches I've watched. I guess it varys person to person.

[FierceDeity]

Melee is better as spectator sport because it's all (and I mean ALL) about technical ability, and that's more impressive to watch. As far as depth of gameplay, however, sm4sh is superior imo because its pacing and relatively accessible level of control favor strategy and complex mindgames over sheer mastery of the controller.

[SlowPokemon]

Yeah the fact that anyone thinks Melee is the definitive Smash over Wii U is laughable honestly

[KefkaticFanatic]

1) Melee will never die
2) It's a fairly large portion of the Smash community that has such an opinion, unfortunately

[mikey]

melee is too hard

[K-NiGhT]

While Melee doesn't have the amount of characters/stages/features as later entries, it has something that gives people reason to still play it again 14 years later; the sheer depth of its gameplay. I mean hell, people are still finding new aspects of the game that no one had ever even thought about, some new platform techniques were just discovered about a week or two ago.

Smash 4 is fun and stuff, but it just doesn't have the amount of movement options, and in general just allows for a slower, more defensive style of play.

Don't get me wrong, I love every entry of Smash. I just think that they should have left the gameplay engine where it was.

melee is too hard

git gud?

[Jompa]

Melee is best game ever.

So about these new guys:
Roy is pretty bad, but he is strong. I've been playing him the past days, and it's pretty fun.
Ryu is probably insanely good if one masters him. In the first place he's dangerous to approach.
Lucas is the best character in the game, and you don't even have to be good. His arrival has destroyed the metagame. Ness was too good - now Lucas comes with actually good recovery (pk thunder), even stronger moves, good combos, more speed, grab range, reliable spike, and basically a lot of crazy stuff you can't beat in a head-on fight. Besides, he just won't die. Not a good thing.

[KefkaticFanatic]

exhibit a

[mikey]

I'm never going to be that good at any video game

[KefkaticFanatic]

sux 2 suk

[Dudeman]

Lucas is the best character in the game, and you don't even have to be good. His arrival has destroyed the metagame. Ness was too good - now Lucas comes with actually good recovery (pk thunder), even stronger moves, good combos, more speed, grab range, reliable spike, and basically a lot of crazy stuff you can't beat in a head-on fight. Besides, he just won't die. Not a good thing.

Good thing I mained him for a while in Brawl, then. Time 2 get rekt, scrubs.

[Jompa]

Still though, no one can beat my Alph.

[SlowPokemon]

YOU ACTUALLY MAIN OLIMAR/ALPH

HOW