Super Smash Bros Fisticuffs for Wii U and Nintendo 3DS

[Waddle Bro]

Ridley's shadow was shown on the Metroid stage ages ago.

[K-NiGhT]

Plus people are complaining that they don't get to play as Ridley. As if it would ever work in the first place. Having a giant dragon among tiny things like Pikachu is slightly unbalanced imo

[KefkaticFanatic]

bowser

[K-NiGhT]

Isn't ridley like 3 times the size of bowser

[Waddle Bro]

^try 10

[SlowPokemon]

Bowser is roughly the same size as Mario in almost every game though unless something is making him huge or the Bros. small

[FierceDeity]

Okay, while Bowser is definitely smaller than Ridley, I think "same size as Mario" is going a little far, seeing as:

nope


still nope


definitely nope

[KefkaticFanatic]

If you really want to go with the scale argument, then somebody just has to say Olimar and it's over

If they really wanted to, they could easily make Ridley into a fighter.  I mean, they made goddamn Duck Hunt Dog into a fighter.

I don't give 2 shits whether or not Ridley is a character, but it's definitely not just "well he's too big" lol

edit: also what FD said

[SlowPokemon]

Thing

Okay I know this really has nothing to do with the conversation at this point, but dude you're using exceptions--the Super Mario 64 size difference was changed in the DS remake to use modern character models, Paper Mario is a totally different beast (and besides, in that series Mario is about the height of his mushroomless self in the main series), and according to the Mario wiki, in Super Mario Sunshine, before the fight Mario is "shocked to see Bowser at such a large size for apparently no reason."

Aside from that, the only instances of Bowser being much bigger than Mario are in New Super Mario Bros. 2, Wii, and U (when Kamek and the Koopalings use magic to make him about 100 times his size), Super Mario Galaxy 2 (due to absorbing energy from the power stars), and if you want to count spinoffs, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story/Dream Team (the Bros. shrink for some unknown reason when they enter his body in the former, and Bowser grows huge as part of the story several times in each game). All of the other games have Mario and Bowser's size relationship not far off from what Smash portrays it as. My point still stands.

[KefkaticFanatic]

He's certainly not always jumbo huge, but he's definitely *larger*.  If comparing Bowser to Mario ratio to Ridley to Samus, then yea, it would be closer to the same.



But what I was trying to say was that they obviously scale characters to work in battles.  Pikachu and Jigglypuff are 1ft tall according to Pokedex, and of course there's Olimar like I mentioned, so they just warp things to make it work with gameplay.

And I mostly just said Bowser cause k-night said 'giant dragon among tiny things like Pikachu"

Amusingly enough, there was an instance of Ridley and Samus together in one of the Melee videos with a much smaller difference in size than seen with the new game.

[SlowPokemon]

All right, fair enough. I'll concede.

[mikey]

All right, fair enough. I'll concede.

*applauds slow for being a bigger man*

[KefkaticFanatic]

bigger

Not sure if intentional

[Yugi]

A friend of mine, in a match, decided to make boomerangs the only avaliable item in the match.

We then spent 5 minutes furiously blocking each others boomerangs in order to hit each other.

Smash 4 is the best game ever.

[mikey]

Not sure if intentional

very