TWG LV: The Choice is Doors

[davy]

TWG LV: The Choice is Doors

1. Wolf
2. Wolf
3. Young Wolf - Can't send in wolfings.
4. Mason - Knows the identity of the other mason and in which room he is at the start of the game.
5. Mason - Knows the identity of the other mason and in which room he is at the start of the game.
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human
9. Human
10. Human
11. Human
12. Human

Wolves know eachother.

Rooms and Doors



There are 16 rooms in this game. At the start of the game, players are put into the rooms so that there is one player in each room, except for four rooms known as the Special Rooms.

Each room has four doors which connect them with other rooms. Rooms at the edge connect with rooms on the opposide edge, and rooms in the corner connect to the two non-opposite rooms in the corner (room 1, for example, connects with room 2, room 5, room 4 and room 13).

At the start of the game, all doors are closed, except for those of the inclosable room. Doors can only be opened and closed during the night phase, and only from inside the room the door belongs to. There are two doors between each room, one of them can only be opened and closed from one room, and the other one from the other room. Starting from night 4, each door that has been closed for at least two night phases in a row, will automatically be opened, and vice versa with exception of the doors of the inaccesable and inclosable rooms.

During the day phase, players can move to any room they wish, as long as the road to that room is not obstructed by doors.

At the start of the game, and at the end of each phase, players will recieve a PM telling them what rooms they can move to, and which players are in rooms they can reach and those in rooms connected to rooms they can reach. However, they will not recieve a PM if the situation is the same as the phase before that.
Example 1: It's the start of the game. davy is in room 6, Yugi is in room 2, Mashi is in room 5, Liggy is in room 7 and BlackDragonSlayer is in room 10. davy will recieve the following PM:
You are in room 6. You cannot move to any other room. Yugi is in room 2, Mashi is in room 5, Liggy is in room 7 and BlackDragonSlayer is in room 10.
Example 2: It's near the end of the game. davy is in room 6. The doors between room 6 and 7, 6 and 10, 7 and 11 and 10 and 11 are open. The doors between room 6 and 2, 6 and 5, 7 and 3, 7 and 8, 10 and 9, 10 and 14, 11 and 15 and 11 and 12 are closed. Yugi is in room 2, Mashi is in room 8, Liggy is in room 7, BlackDragonSlayer is in room 1 and Bubbles is in room 15. davy will recieve the following PM:
You are in room 6. you can move to room 7, room 10 and room 11. Liggy is in room 7, Yugi is in room 2, Mashi is in room 8 and Bubbles is in room 15. Room 3, 5, 9, 12 and 14 are empty.

Wolves will obtain a saparate PM at the end of each night phase telling them in which rooms their partners are.

Special Rooms

The four rooms that are not occupied by players at the start of the game are the special rooms: the empty room, the inaccesable room, the inclosable room and the warp room.

The empty room functions like a normal room, except that there is no player inside it at the start of the game, so there's no one who
can open its doors. The doors can however be opened by the system that starts working from night 4.

The inaccesable room has its doors closed at all times, even the system that starts working from night 4 can't open them.

The inclosable room is the only room that starts the game with all its doors open. Those doors can however not be closed by any player and can even not be closed by the system that starts working from night 4.

If the warp room is empty at the end of the night phase, 1 random player will warp to it.

Players will be told which rooms mentioned in their end of the night phase PM is a inaccesable, inclosable or warp room (if nothing is mentioned, none of these rooms are mentioned in the PM are inaccesable, inclosable or warp rooms).

Wolfings

Wolfings work differnt this game. Wolves can only wolf players that are in rooms that said wolf could reach last day phase. On the other hand, each wolf has a wolfing of his own, so it is possible that three players die during the same night phase.

Lynches

Like with wolfings, players can only lynch players that are in a room that said player can reach that day phase. Lynching votes are sent through PM rather than posted in the topic. Lynching will only occur when more than half of the players that could vote for the same player vote for the same player. Otherwise, there will just be no lynch. There could be multiple lynches each day phase because a player can be lynched in each set of rooms. Also, lynching is not obligatory in this game.

Semi-closed communication

This game features some sort of closed communication, which I like to call semi-closed communication. It means that you can only PM and have private chats with the host and players mentioned in your start of the game/end of the night PM. Also all information in your start of the game/end of the night PM, as well as information about your actions (wolfing, lynching, door opening/closing and moving) may only be shared through PM and private chat.

Order of action activating

Night phase: Wolfing>Door opening=Door closing
Day phase: Lynching>Moving>Warping

Phases

Because there are probably going to be a lot of phases this game and because there is less need to think about the lynch target, I have decided that both day and night phases will be 24 hours long. Also when all possible action PM's have been sent to me, or when each player that could still sent in an action PM has told me that he/she don't want to, I will end the phase early.


1. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
2. Mashi
3. BlackDragonSlayer
4. fank009
5. TheZeldaPianist275
6. Bird
7. Olimar12345
8. FireArrow
9. The_Subjective_Thought
10. Dude
11. Yugi
12. Wrydryn

Night 5 is over. No one died. The PM has been sent. It's now Day 5. Day 5 ends July 10th 9:00AM PST/10:00AM MST/11:00AM CST/12:00PM EST/5:00PM GMT/6:00PM CET/July 11th 5:00AM in New-Zealand.

Also, for this phase and the following night phase only, semi-closed communication does not apply, because you can all talk to eachother anyway. This also means you can discuss every matter of the game in the topic and in the chat.

[Bird]

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

This is great.

[FireArrow]

Ok~ I'm thinking once we lynch wry, this is gonna be over.

[fank009]

and look... rigjt on queue, a cluster storm.
this phase, will tell us how many wolves there are.

just a few thoughts
-bird setting the masons up to die
BDS being somewhat cleared (more detail later)
-what the hell happened night 3???
(night 3, the 6 of us (me,FA,TST, bird, mashi, boy) all lived

if bds is right and it was a setup, WHO THE HELL ARE THE WOLVES???

[BlackDragonSlayer]

if bds is right and it was a setup, WHO THE HELL ARE THE WOLVES???

*facepalm*

Ok~ I'm thinking once we lynch wry, this is gonna be over.

But if he isn't, I think that we might have a really hard time recovering...

[fank009]

*facepalm*
But if he isn't, I think that we might have a really hard time recovering...

-You are still missing it eh BDS,
Can you honestly tell me, that someone in that 6, wouldnt have wolfed someone else in that 6???
Lets go through some fank logic.
So, the 6 arent the wolfing wolves, that leaves, BDS,olimar,Dude,TZP/verm,yugi,wry
I have a human lean on BDS, and I remember TZP's anti wolf network idea.
that leaves 4, 2 of them are dead allready, 1's inactive, and 3 of them have the possibility of being mason buddehs (with others not on this list...), Do you really think humans are that lucky?
I just have a hard time believing, that everything is falling into place.

[Bird]

I think everyone should move into one room.

verm's plan of moving people around into 4 rooms (masons in one, divide the humans/wolves into the others) is still a terrific plan, but I don't think we have the activity to pull it off. I think we should lynch one somewhat inactive player, and then move into the room of the next-most-inactive person, since in all likelihood we'll probably lynch them left and can't depend on them to operate their doors on their own. After that we should be able to continue the game pretty easily.

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Suspicion!

1. Olimar12345 - The only reason I wasn't way more suspicious of Olimar was because I thought he was a mason. This is part of the reason I wanted the masons to claim in the first place; I feel like the wolves probably had their doors closed (hence the lack of wolfings) and the people who leave doors closed are the masons and the inactives. So once the masons are eliminated, we should have our wolves. Olimar12345 has been more active than some other players (Yugi, TST and Wrydryn) but he is still very inexperienced, and it's extremely plausible that he wouldn't send in any wolfings this game. For starters, he seems overwhelmed. The game is extremely complex, and I could see him not realizing he needs to open his doors and send in wolfings all on his own. Plus, he hasn't been completely absent, but he's been away for long periods of time. He said earlier in the thread that he had been absent for a day and a half. I mean really, this is a player who asked "how do I know if I'm a wolf" last game. He's never been a wolf before. Him being a wolf and failing to take initiative and attack people makes a lot of sense.

2. Wrydryn - This one is a lot more obvious. I'm pretty sure Wrydryn will be the one to get lynched tonight, but I wanted to put some heat (and shine some light) on Olimar by making him my number 1. Wrydryn is suspicious for much the same reasons. Since there's been no wolfings, it points to an inactive player being a wolf. That's really all there is to it.

And I'd like to just point out, that I don't really think any player currently in the game has the patience to not wolf anyone for such a long period of time as a wolf on purpose. Not even fank009. Nobody is that patient. Maybe FSM would do it, but I really doubt it! Even if they were patient, nob wants to irritate everyone else this way. On top of that, there are two wolves who should be making attacks. I'm extremely confident that one of (or both) of the top two players in this list is (or are) a wolf (or wolves).

3. The Subjective Thought - Same stuff, just to a lesser degree.

4. Mashi - I could see Mashi being the wolf who can't attack people, but that's still a stretch. He's seemed pretty helpful in chats. He's not here for being suspicious, but since everyone below him has either done something (or things) that I find human, or is named Bird.

5. TZP/Verm - verm has taken over his predecessors job of coming up with good plans, but unlike his predecessor, I know verm does that as a human and a wolf. Fortunately, TZP has done enough good and made me think he was pretty human with his genuine-seeming effort to help the humans out. Does TZP do this as a wolf? I'm actually asking, please let me know if you remember a game where he was a wolf.

6. FireArrow - FireArrow has had more opportunities to wolf people than anyone else, but hasn't. And although he hasn't been a wolf before, I think he understands the game well enough to know that wolfing is a good idea, especially when everybody is getting pissed off about things! On top of that, he has had lots of private conversations with fank009 and continues to frequent the IRC, which would be an extremely audacious move as a first-time wolf.

7. The Boy Who Cried Wolf - Probably human, since I don't think he had a good grip on how wolfings worked in our first conversation in the IRC. He could still be the wolf-less wolf, but it's a stretch. I was pretty suspicious of him at first, and was even down to lynch him, but that conversation in the IRC changed my mind. I should be able to find it if anyone cares that much, but I think (and hope) nobody does!

8. fank009 - Putting in tons of effort and thought, has had private conversations with tons of players, seems to be legitimately scumhunting. He deserves a big pat on the back if he's a wolf, since I can't imagine putting in so much time into a facade like that.

9. BDS - The paranoia on night 1 seems to stem from a genuine worry about the wolves. I don't know if he would actually analyze the number of players remaining and make worrisome posts about it so soon if he were a wolf. Yeah, he's generally a paranoid guy all the time, but I looked over some of his wolf games, and they don't seem to be as worried.

10. Me!

[Bird]

Oh, and it might be a good idea to post in the thread what your vote (sent via PM to the host) is, as well as what plan you'd like to execute this phase. We'll likely have to move around quite a bit, so try to remember to send a movement PM once we've agreed on a plan.

I sent in a vote for Olimar12345, but will change that if I'm outvoted in favor of someone else.

[FireArrow]

Bird, don't lynch Olimar - I can't say anything, but just don't.

[Bird]

Have you been talking to him or something? You know you can post PMs and stuff now, now that everyone is connected.

[fank009]

Stupid Q, Why dont people consider people who are lynched in there suspicion lists??? because there is still the possiblity of them being wolves, and being potential wolf partners.

I should let everyone in on whats been happening on my end.

Day 1, there was a network of me/bird/FA/Dude. I was like, Dude isnt responding, looked like he sheeped the plan to open all the doors. Bird said (paraphrasing) "thats typical dude", he comes to me and FA later saying lets lynch dude.
And dude was lynched
Day 2,one network of me/bird/FA/TST/Mashi/Boy. Discussions of a no lynch were frequent, I came in close to the end of phase and went for a boy lynch. TST didnt find anything suspicious in him, neither did mashi. (fmpov) it is believed that the 3 of us (me/bird/FA) were voting for boy (bird i think didnt send his vote in)
Night 3, No wolfing
Day 3, 3 networks are circulating, one, BDS/TBWCW, another, Mashi/yugi/tst, The other, Me/FA/Olimar.
Nothing happened on my end. just had some general discussion.
Night 4, Fank opens room 11 to keep himself in the loop.
Day 4, There was a network of me/yugi/olimar/Verm, I asked everyone what their opinions were, Yugi was lynched due to having the lesser defence imo. I wanted the lynch, so that wolves didnt have power over the wolfing (the magic number of 3)
night 4- fank discovers that all hell is going to break loose day 5
Day 5- Here we are.

I think thats the Tl;dr version of everything on my end

[fank009]

BDS, know you know whats been happening on this end. Now i know that you are fully informed, and i dont want any more stupid Ideas coming out of your head. (like you thinking you know what happened behind fanks door)

[BlackDragonSlayer]

And I'd like to just point out, that I don't really think any player currently in the game has the patience to not wolf anyone for such a long period of time as a wolf on purpose. Not even fank009. Nobody is that patient. Maybe FSM would do it, but I really doubt it! Even if they were patient, nob wants to irritate everyone else this way.

*raises hand*
Though, I wouldn't want to irritate people intentionally...

On top of that, there are two wolves who should be making attacks.

Unless, of course, they planned it out that way.

BDS, know you know whats been happening on this end. Now i know that you are fully informed, and i dont want any more stupid Ideas coming out of your head. (like you thinking you know what happened behind fanks door)

*double facepalm*
Now, people don't usually understand me, but I really don't think you understand me...

[fank009]

BDS, I must be missing something, because you havent given me a point to understand.

[fank009]

in the chat if anyone wants