TWG LV: The Choice is Doors

[FireArrow]

We just care more about enjoying the game than winning.

This, it's no fun when you can't talk to people (let alone vote.)

[fank009]

long post incoming... Got a few things i want to say my two bits on.

Because the young wolf WON'T get lynched unless they act like a babbling gorilla, or unless the humans choose somebody at random (in which case, nothing the wolf/wolves did would matter in the first place).
Also, I never recall saying that the people who wolf would stay hidden. There's a possibility that all three of them are "in the system," waiting until the perfect time to strike (or it's possible that they ARE, in fact, waiting for us to whittle ourselves down): like Boy said, "Wolves can wait as long as they want."

-So BDS logic states that we lynch TBWCW today??? (on a side note, lynching randomly will more than likely get us to lose quickly.)

-No, you didnt say it directly, You linked to TZP's post though, so theres signs that thats where your train of thought was heading.

Back to the point, though, I think you're (many of you, quite actually) complaining way too much about the communication limitations (to the point where some of you seem to be emphasizing communication over living

WHATS THIS??? BDS has a point? That I agree with? 

Maybe, We can find some wolves in this whole kerfuffle...

Don't lynch me, my doors are open. Come to my place and we can have a bubble bath.

Lines like This get you lnyched TBWCW,

Why does it feel like there is only... *starts to count...* 5 people playing the game??? 3 people inputting the thoughts every now and then, and then the others... :/

No, I disagree.  Boy, there is a plan to organize everyone into two networks.  Two networks allows us to do basically everything we could in one, but it narrows our fields.  Bird, we really need to make sure everyone knows about this.

Its prolly too late for this plan now. by the time we properly organize, we would have lost too many, have one mislynch to figure it all out, And theres the possibility of Wolves controling the lynch.


And all this talk about letting the wolves make the 1st move,
Im against it.
Everyones been complaining about how this is too complicated and they dont understand it. So who do you think will be wolfed 1st??? And if we wait for the knowledgable to be wolfed, who will be left to understand it all???
So why are we waiting for everyone who is good or has knowledge to be offed???
And why are people encouraging this to happen???

[TheZeldaPianist275]

Because Fank, it would not take too long for the plan to happen.  It would simply take everyone opening their doors.  Not that hard.

If the networks do work, a wolfing would SIGNIFCANTLY lower our fields of search.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

-So BDS logic states that we lynch TBWCW today??? (on a side note, lynching randomly will more than likely get us to lose quickly.)

Read my previous suspicion list (on page 9)... -_-

-No, you didnt say it directly, You linked to TZP's post though, so theres signs that thats where your train of thought was heading.

I linked to his post, yes, but for a different point (e.g. that the wolves are merely waiting for us to whittle our own numbers down).

And all this talk about letting the wolves make the 1st move,
Im against it.
Everyones been complaining about how this is too complicated and they dont understand it. So who do you think will be wolfed 1st??? And if we wait for the knowledgable to be wolfed, who will be left to understand it all???
So why are we waiting for everyone who is good or has knowledge to be offed???
And why are people encouraging this to happen???

You say you're against letting the wolves make the first move, yet you appear not to want to lynch anybody (since you don't seem to be suggesting any possible alternatives for the lynch).

[fank009]

Because Fank, it would not take too long for the plan to happen.  It would simply take everyone opening their doors.  Not that hard.

If the networks do work, a wolfing would SIGNIFCANTLY lower our fields of search.

It takes a Coordinated Plan. and last night showed that the humans arent co-ordinated. Being able to succesfully pull it off now??? I have strong doubts (unfortunatley)

Read my previous suspicion list (on page 9)... -_-
I linked to his post, yes, but for a different point (e.g. that the wolves are merely waiting for us to whittle our own numbers down).
You say you're against letting the wolves make the first move, yet you appear not to want to lynch anybody (since you don't seem to be suggesting any possible alternatives for the lynch).

-Was a joke,
-that still contradicts the young wolf idea... (though thats not the matter at this time though...)
-Two points on this, one, You dont know (or shouldnt know) what im planning, two, I havent had time to execute said plan today.

[davy]

TWG LV: The Choice is Doors

1. Wolf
2. Wolf
3. Young Wolf - Can't send in wolfings.
4. Mason - Knows the identity of the other mason and in which room he is at the start of the game.
5. Mason - Knows the identity of the other mason and in which room he is at the start of the game.
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human
9. Human
10. Human
11. Human
12. Human

Wolves know eachother.

Rooms and Doors



There are 16 rooms in this game. At the start of the game, players are put into the rooms so that there is one player in each room, except for four rooms known as the Special Rooms.

Each room has four doors which connect them with other rooms. Rooms at the edge connect with rooms on the opposide edge, and rooms in the corner connect to the two non-opposite rooms in the corner (room 1, for example, connects with room 2, room 5, room 4 and room 13).

At the start of the game, all doors are closed, except for those of the inclosable room. Doors can only be opened and closed during the night phase, and only from inside the room the door belongs to. There are two doors between each room, one of them can only be opened and closed from one room, and the other one from the other room. Starting from night 4, each door that has been closed for at least two night phases in a row, will automatically be opened, and vice versa with exception of the doors of the inaccesable and inclosable rooms.

During the day phase, players can move to any room they wish, as long as the road to that room is not obstructed by doors.

At the start of the game, and at the end of each phase, players will recieve a PM telling them what rooms they can move to, and which players are in rooms they can reach and those in rooms connected to rooms they can reach. However, they will not recieve a PM if the situation is the same as the phase before that.
Example 1: It's the start of the game. davy is in room 6, Yugi is in room 2, Mashi is in room 5, Liggy is in room 7 and BlackDragonSlayer is in room 10. davy will recieve the following PM:
You are in room 6. You cannot move to any other room. Yugi is in room 2, Mashi is in room 5, Liggy is in room 7 and BlackDragonSlayer is in room 10.
Example 2: It's near the end of the game. davy is in room 6. The doors between room 6 and 7, 6 and 10, 7 and 11 and 10 and 11 are open. The doors between room 6 and 2, 6 and 5, 7 and 3, 7 and 8, 10 and 9, 10 and 14, 11 and 15 and 11 and 12 are closed. Yugi is in room 2, Mashi is in room 8, Liggy is in room 7, BlackDragonSlayer is in room 1 and Bubbles is in room 15. davy will recieve the following PM:
You are in room 6. you can move to room 7, room 10 and room 11. Liggy is in room 7, Yugi is in room 2, Mashi is in room 8 and Bubbles is in room 15. Room 3, 5, 9, 12 and 14 are empty.

Wolves will obtain a saparate PM at the end of each night phase telling them in which rooms their partners are.

Special Rooms

The four rooms that are not occupied by players at the start of the game are the special rooms: the empty room, the inaccesable room, the inclosable room and the warp room.

The empty room functions like a normal room, except that there is no player inside it at the start of the game, so there's no one who
can open its doors. The doors can however be opened by the system that starts working from night 4.

The inaccesable room has its doors closed at all times, even the system that starts working from night 4 can't open them.

The inclosable room is the only room that starts the game with all its doors open. Those doors can however not be closed by any player and can even not be closed by the system that starts working from night 4.

If the warp room is empty at the end of the night phase, 1 random player will warp to it.

Players will be told which rooms mentioned in their end of the night phase PM is a inaccesable, inclosable or warp room (if nothing is mentioned, none of these rooms are mentioned in the PM are inaccesable, inclosable or warp rooms).

Wolfings

Wolfings work differnt this game. Wolves can only wolf players that are in rooms that said wolf could reach last day phase. On the other hand, each wolf has a wolfing of his own, so it is possible that three players die during the same night phase.

Lynches

Like with wolfings, players can only lynch players that are in a room that said player can reach that day phase. Lynching votes are sent through PM rather than posted in the topic. Lynching will only occur when more than half of the players that could vote for the same player vote for the same player. Otherwise, there will just be no lynch. There could be multiple lynches each day phase because a player can be lynched in each set of rooms. Also, lynching is not obligatory in this game.

Semi-closed communication

This game features some sort of closed communication, which I like to call semi-closed communication. It means that you can only PM and have private chats with the host and players mentioned in your start of the game/end of the night PM. Also all information in your start of the game/end of the night PM, as well as information about your actions (wolfing, lynching, door opening/closing and moving) may only be shared through PM and private chat.

Order of action activating

Night phase: Wolfing>Door opening=Door closing
Day phase: Lynching>Moving>Warping

Phases

Because there are probably going to be a lot of phases this game and because there is less need to think about the lynch target, I have decided that both day and night phases will be 24 hours long. Also when all possible action PM's have been sent to me, or when each player that could still sent in an action PM has told me that he/she don't want to, I will end the phase early.


1. The Boy Who Cried Wolf
2. Mashi
3. BlackDragonSlayer
4. fank009
5. TheZeldaPianist275
6. Bird
7. Olimar12345
8. FireArrow
9. The_Subjective_Thought
10. Dude
11. Yugi
12. Wrydryn

Day 2 is over. No one died. All PM's have been sent. It's now night 3. night 3 ends July 3rd 9:00AM PST/10:00AM MST/11:00AM CST/12:00PM EST/5:00PM GMT/6:00PM CET/July 4th 3:00AM AEST/5:00AM in New-Zealand.

[fank009]

That  was eventful

[fank009]

In the chat now if anyone wants to hear fank rant

[Bird]

I would try and organize another two-network plan, but Yugi is literally too inactive for that to happen, so I guess we should keep things how they are now.

Sorry TZP!

[Yugi]

but Yugi is literally too inactive for that to happen,

[Bird]

Oh, look who it is.

Yugi why didn't you open your doors on Night 1 or 2?

[TheZeldaPianist275]

This.  I'm getting a little mad at my pm's being ignored, Yugi.

[Yugi]

Because my Internet cut out and I couldn't access NSM.

[Bird]

Okay, the story checks out.

Here's what I was thinking.

Network 1: Rooms 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 9, 10, 11
Network 2: Rooms 4, 8, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16

This splits the players up into groups of 5 or 6, giving us two lynches. I also think the masons should claim next phase.

[fank009]

sounds like a plan for next phase bird.