TWG 54: Game of Wolves

[Bird]

Just a little under 4 hours to get those PMs in if you plan on doing anything tonight.

[Liggy]

Also, reminder for anyone with a guarding power.

Hi!  I need to be guarded tonight or else these claims were useless, and don't assume someone else will guard me!  In fact, don't assume someone else can guard me!

[fank009]

why dont people with guards claim to liggy??? and liggy can sort out who guards him.

[Yugi]

So how long until the phase ends?

[Bubbles]

Nobody sits upon the Iron Throne. Somebody will be given the throne starting on Day 1. It is now Night 1. Night 1 ends Friday, May 31st at 8:00 PM CDT.

one hour

[Bird]

Character List (Quick Reference)

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Eddard Stark
Catelyn Stark
Bran Stark
Arya Stark
Robb Stark
Jon Snow

Tywin Lannister
Cersei Lannister
Jaime Lannister
Tyrion Lannister
Gregor Clegane
Sandor Clegane

Robert Baratheon
Stannis Baratheon
Melisandre
Davos Seaworth
Renly Baratheon
Brienne of Tarth

Viserys Targaryen
Illyrio Mopatis
Daenerys Targaryen
Khal Drogo
Jorah Mormont
Mirri Maz Duur

Margaery Tyrell
Lysa Arryn
Theon Greyjoy
Varys

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Character List (with Descriptions)

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Character List

There are 28 characters in this list, but only 11 of them are actual roles in this game. The other 17 are false roles given to players and White Walkers to allow them to false claim more easily. This lists each of those roles (real or fake) by their house allegiance, if any. Try not to make too many assumptions about the make-up of the game based on the list or your role PM; I peppered the game description with (probably)s for a reason--it's tricky! The White Walkers may not even be red! They could be white or something! Characters from this list were selected to be in the game at random, rather than based on their importance.

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House Stark
For the most part, friends with House Baratheon and enemies with House Lannister.

Eddard Stark - The honorable Lord of Winterfell and head of House Stark, Eddard "Ned" Stark is a man of principles. He's a good man, but very grim. He's known for repeating the words of House Stark: "Winter is Coming."
Catelyn Stark - Lady Catelyn Stark is Lord Eddard Stark's wife. Born a Tully of Riverrun in the south, she has yet to learn to love the North, but certainly loves her children. She is protective of them, and apprehensive that their safety may be endangered when war approaches.
Bran Stark - Bran Stark is the younger brother of Robb Stark and Jon Snow, and a son of Lord Eddard Stark. He's a kind and loving, with a strange gift for seeing things; visions and dreams of things to come. He also has a huge pet wolf named Summer.
Arya Stark - Arya Stark is the youngest daughter of Eddard and Catelyn Stark. She likes fighting, horseback riding, stealing treasures, killing people... typical little girl stuff. She's fierce, able to disguise herself and isn't afraid to do what she can to get what she wants, which in this case is probably revenge.
Robb Stark - Robb Stark is the eldest son of Eddard and Catelyn Stark and will inherit Winterfell and all of its titles. Like his father, he's honorable, with a strong sense of justice, although he does have a rebellious side as well. Excellent with a sword, too.
Jon Snow - Jon Snow is the black sheep of the Stark family, namely because he is not a Stark. Bastard children of the north are given the surname "Snow," and Catelyn Stark is not his mother. Since he won't inherit any lands or titles, he sought to find his place by joining the Night's Watch. There he watches from a wall of ice a wasteland full of ancient monsters and stuff. He carries around a torch, is very similar to his father, and has a giant wolf pet named Ghost.

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House Lannister
For the most part, enemies with House Stark.

Tywin Lannister - Tywin Lannister is a wealthy, insightful, influential, and powerful man. When he was a teenager he completely exterminated a competing house, literally wiping the name "Reyne" from the Earth. He has many informants and cares about the legacy and reputation of House Lannister more than almost anything else.
Cersei Lannister - Cercei Lannister is as beautiful as she is backstabbing. Which is to say, very beautiful and very backstabbing. On the surface, she's the perfect lady, full of grace and charm. But just below the surface is a woman who is conniving, poisonous and prideful above all else. In other words, sort of a bitch! Twins with Jaime.
Jaime Lannister - Jaime Lannister is one of the greatest knights of the Kingsguard, a group of bodyguards sworn to protect the King. However, he has earned the nickname "Kingslayer" for killing the King (Mad King Aerys) he was sworn to protect. They call him honorless, but that doesn't change the skill he has with a sword. His last name also means he's super wealthy, which is pretty neat. Twins with Cersei. Has a sort of lazy, arrogant coolness about him.
Tyrion Lannister - Tyrion is a dwarf. Not the magical kind, a person with dwarfism. And he's sort of the reject of House Lannister, since none of his family likes him, despite the fact that he often has to fix their mistakes. He's extremely witty and tricky, but weak on the battlefield because of his stature.
Gregor Clegane - "Tywin's Mad Dog" they call him. He's an 8-foot-tall killing machine, with the tactical skills of an ape and the scaring skills of the Bottom of the Well from Ocarina of Time. He does Tyiwn's dirty work: pillaging, killing children, you name it. His huge size, addiction to painkillers and monstrous acts have left him mostly unfeeling.
Sandor Clegane - Gregor Clegane's younger brother. When he was a small boy, Gregor shoved his face into a hot fire, burning half of it, making him look pretty hideous. He's still an excellent swordsman, and incredibly loyal to House Lannister. He's no knight though, and hates all they stand for. He hates a lot of things, really.

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House Baratheon
For the most part, friends with House Stark and enemies with House Targaryen.

Robert Baratheon - Robert Baratheon was once a fierce warrior and commander, crushing enemie and armies with his warhammer. Now he's sort of just a fat, lusty lecher. He still keeps up with the politics and plots of Westeros, but doesn't relish it the way other characters do. Hates the Targaryens for killing his love, Lyanna Stark.
Stannis Baratheon - Stannis is Robert's younger brother. Where Robert was easygoing, Stannis was stubborn and where Robert would let things slide, Stannis would deliver unflinching and merciless justice. A fierce naval commander and zealous believer in a the "Red God" of Melisandre. Also he will do whatever he can to spread information he believes to be true if it is what's right.
Melisandre - A red priestess of Asshai who became a loyal follower of Stannis Baratheon. She has magic powers, many relating to the use of fire, alchemy or poison. Believes she can see things in her fires.
Davos Seaworth - A smuggler who became a loyal follower of Stannis Baratheon. Will do what he can to advise or help him, and is a very trustworthy individual.
Renly Baratheon - Renly is Robert's youngest brother. Although he was never the warrior or commander his brothers were, his wit and looks have made him extremely popular with the commoners. Their love for him will surely give him hella armies someday. Oh, also he's totally gay.
Brienne of Tarth - A woman who would be a knight. Totally in love with Renly, and is completely dedicated to whatever cause he may pursue. Used to getting mocked for being a chick with a sword, but she's good with the sword so it doesn't matter that much. Very simple, not into the plots everybody else is obsessed with. Oh, also she's super tall and ugly.

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House Targaryen
For the most part, enemies with House Baratheon.

Viserys Targaryen - The exiled Targaryen Prince. When Mad King Aerys was killed, the Targaryens were forced into hiding. As a result of this (or perhaps as a result of all the Targaryen inbreeding), he's gone sort of mad. Known as "The Beggar King" since he flees from place to place, begging for an army to take back the only home he ever knew. Also he gets really angry.
Illyrio Mopatis - The wealthy merchant who took in the Targaryens. Lives in the distant city of Pentos and plots to have the Targaryens ascend to power in Westeros by creating a war there.
Daenerys Targaryen - The exiled Targaryen Princess. Viserys had her married off to the savage tribal horde known as the Dothraki so that Khal Drogo might lead his horde to Westeros to take the throne back. She is shy and weak initially but learns to be strong like dragon. She also seeks vengeance for being exiled and her father being killed by the people there.
Khal Drogo - The savage leader of the Dothraki and husband of Daenerys Targaryen. Extremely strong and an incredible rider and fighter. Tough, terrifying and ambitious, there is little he could not do if he were determined, despite the simplicity of Dothraki culture.
Jorah Mormont - When Daenerys was given to the Dothraki, Jorah, another exile of Westeros, served as her guide. He's a knight who was sentenced to death for slaving, and has now found someone from Westeros to serve and counsel. But also, he's a spy!
Mirri Maz Duur - A witch that the Dothraki Horde happens across. Saved by Daenerys, she offers to help do cool magic stuff, like bring stuff back from the dead and set up poisons, cures and curses.

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Third Parties
Could be aligned with anyone or no one.

Margaery Tyrell - The Tyrells are a powerful house that is moving up in the world. They rule over the lands of the south called "The Reach" the breadbasket of Westeros. Loved by her people (especially for bringing food to King's Landing, the capital), Margaery is trying to move up in the world. And for a woman, that means marrying somebody awesome.
Lysa Arryn - Lysa Arryn became unhinged when her husband died. Actually she's sort of a lunatic. She's paranoid, thinks she's seeing plots against her everywhere and has taken refuge in the mountain castle called The Eyrie. They kill people there by making them go through what is called the "Moon Door" where they fall to their deaths. Neat!
Theon Greyjoy - The only surviving son of Balon Greyjoy, the Lord of the Iron Islands. When the Greyjoys rebelled against the crown, Eddard Stark took Theon as his hostage and ward. He was raised alongside the other Starks, and is dark, witty, treacherous and good with a bow.
Varys - Varys is an enigmatic figure. A eunuch who rose to become a King's Advisor thanks to his network of spies. Little happens that he does not hear about, and its a mystery where his allegiances truly lie. Also he smells really nice.

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Players:

- Yugi
- Mashi
- Liggy
- BlackDragonSlayer
- shadowkirby davy
- Bubbles
- Thiannon
- Zunawe
- fank009
- Olimar12345
- FSM-Reapr
- K-NiGhT TheZeldaPianist275
- FireArrow
- The Boy Who Cried Wolf

Chatroom

fank009 has died. k-NiGhT TheZeldaPianist275 sits upon the Iron Throne. It is now Day 1. Day 1 ends Sunday, June 2nd at 10:00 PM CDT.




(p.s. if you know what the picture is going to be, don't spoil it)

[Liggy]

I have two things to note:

The first, as you likely guessed, is the House list.  I'm sure you're all excited!

[redacted]

Yeah I checked in the chat real quick to see if people wanted it to be public.  No one really did, but I really don't see a reason to hide it.  So before I post it I'd like some more opinions on what I should do.

Thing of note number two:

Olimar is likely a wolf from what I've seen.  And I have some pretty good reasons.  Underlined is the gist.

Number One:

He lied.  Twice, actually.  In fact, both times in the same post!  Here's the post fyi:

Reading through this again, I realized it was kind of stupid to make a big deal out of my claim. For clarities sake, I am Robert Bamarathon.

Since it's useless to me now, my false role was Mirri Maz Duur. Hope this helps.

The key lie here that jumped out to me was the last sentence.  Go ahead, take a guess what my role is.

Did you guess?

It's not Mirri Maz Durr.  Not at all.  My fake role is Mirri Maz Durr, actually.  You know, the role Olimar claimed was his fake role.  So now you're wondering: Liggy, what was the second lie in that sentence?  Well, someone had told me that one of their powers was information gathering.  I didn't trust Olimar at all, so I asked them to investigate him.  As it would turn out, he lied about his real role too!  Go figure!

Number two:

He had motive to kill fank.  By a freak accident, I had this log with fank (he's Fank009, I'm Aaron) a couple hours ago:

(Once again, underlined stuff is important.)

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[7:24:01 PM] Fank009: you know... there is a potential... to be able to "outplay" the wolves
[7:24:17 PM | Edited 7:24:39 PM] Fank009: in case you die, you can just tell us who was "supposed to protect you"
[7:24:37 PM] Aaron George: er?
[7:24:47 PM] Aaron George: no
[7:24:51 PM] Aaron George: how would I?
[7:24:53 PM] Fank009: you get revived as a thrall???
[7:25:08 PM] Aaron George: but
[7:25:11 PM] Aaron George: why would the wolves do that
[7:25:17 PM] Fank009: because...
[7:25:29 PM] Aaron George: if they kill me
[7:25:30 PM] Fank009: if you die in the night, you would be a clear human
[7:25:43 PM] Fank009: and someone might revive you.
[7:25:46 PM] Aaron George: it's because I have information they don't want released
[7:26:08 PM] Fank009: some what true...
[7:26:17 PM] Fank009: but remember, they gain numbers as well
[7:26:48 PM] Aaron George: yes
[7:26:48 PM] Fank009: I believe I can ask you this Q now, (now that i have time to do so...)
[7:26:51 PM] Aaron George: but there's other people
[7:26:56 PM] Aaron George: to revive as a thrall
[7:27:00 PM] Aaron George: and I have information
[7:27:12 PM] Aaron George: wolves generally want to stop the spread of info
[7:27:23 PM] Aaron George: because a general rule, infomration makes it easier to find the wolves
[7:27:37 PM] Fank009: what if its the wrong information???
[7:27:41 PM] Aaron George: and the main advantage the wolves have is information
[7:27:42 PM] Aaron George: but
[7:27:46 PM] Aaron George: it's likely not
[7:27:49 PM] Fank009: if someone is barking up the wrong tree...
[7:27:51 PM] Aaron George: I've speaken to most people personally
[7:27:58 PM] Fank009: wouldnt the wolves keep that person?
[7:28:00 PM] Aaron George: and they all seem reasonable
[7:28:02 PM] Fank009: ^
[7:28:07 PM] Fank009: (except me xD)
[7:28:19 PM] Aaron George: for the record
[7:28:27 PM] Aaron George: potentially fake information is better than none at all
[7:28:28 PM] Fank009: ^true
[7:28:33 PM] Aaron George: as long as we keep in mind it's fake
[7:28:36 PM] Fank009: As i was saying...
[7:28:40 PM] Aaron George: because it's very likely not all fake
[7:28:51 PM] Aaron George: oh sorry, continue
[7:28:51 PM] Fank009: Im gathering a "secret" band of people
[7:29:02 PM] Fank009: People who I think are humans
[7:29:23 PM] Aaron George: ...okay
[7:29:29 PM] Fank009: At the moment, we are a group of 3, And im fairly confident that my "partners" are humans.
[7:29:31 PM] Fank009: I have that "reading ability"
[7:29:43 PM] Fank009: seeing youve outed yourself...
[7:29:45 PM] Fank009: I have a Q
[7:29:52 PM] Fank009: Do you want to join "this group"
[7:30:08 PM] Aaron George: uh
[7:30:14 PM] Aaron George: who's in "this group"
[7:30:33 PM] Fank009: The threesome are myself, olimar and firearrow
[7:30:45 PM] Aaron George: I.
[7:30:46 PM] Aaron George: I see.
[7:31:00 PM] Aaron George: I have one question.
[7:31:03 PM] Fank009: ...
[7:31:07 PM] Fank009: answer?
[7:31:14 PM] Aaron George: my question first
[7:31:21 PM] Aaron George: did olimar tell you anything about his role?
[7:31:31 PM] Fank009: He did.
[7:31:31 PM] Aaron George: he never claimed to me
[7:31:35 PM] Aaron George: I'm aware he claimed in the thread
[7:31:39 PM] Aaron George: but I'd like to know if it's true
[7:31:39 PM] Fank009: It is true
[7:31:48 PM] Fank009: he is what he says to have claimed
[7:31:53 PM] Aaron George: okay
[7:32:05 PM] Aaron George: so
[7:32:09 PM] Aaron George: why do you trust these people?
[7:32:31 PM] Fank009: You know how i called mashi as a power last game?
[7:32:37 PM] Fank009: Little tells like that...
[7:32:54 PM] Aaron George: I see.
[7:32:56 PM] Fank009: Thats how i can trust those people.
[7:33:08 PM] Aaron George: interesting
[7:34:15 PM] Fank009: I might as well tell you my "secret"
[7:34:21 PM] Fank009: since im seeing you as an ally
[7:34:27 PM] Aaron George: go ahead
[7:34:43 PM] Fank009: I am Daenerys Targaryen.
[7:34:55 PM] Aaron George: neat!
[7:34:58 PM] Fank009: I have 3 powers.
[7:35:03 PM] Aaron George: aw
[7:35:03 PM] Fank009: one,
[7:35:05 PM] Aaron George: I only have two.
[7:35:09 PM] Fank009: I have a revive
[7:35:14 PM] Fank009: 2,
[7:35:16 PM] Aaron George: oh neater
[7:35:19 PM] Fank009: I have a one use fire attack
[7:35:48 PM] Aaron George: seems useful
[7:35:52 PM] Fank009: 3, If i find a Targaryen on night 2, and a Baratheon on night 3,
[7:35:55 PM] Aaron George: wolves are weak to fire
[7:36:03 PM] Fank009: Me and the other targaryen get a health refill,
[7:36:14 PM] Fank009: but the baratheon dies
[7:36:16 PM] Aaron George: D=
[7:36:16 PM] Fank009: on the flip side
[7:36:19 PM] Aaron George: not wort-
[7:36:19 PM] Aaron George: oh
[7:36:21 PM] Aaron George: continue
[7:36:22 PM] Fank009: my abilities get a refill
[7:36:38 PM] Fank009: so i have 2 potential revives
[7:36:39 PM] Aaron George: well
[7:36:49 PM] Aaron George: which you can use on the baratheon
[7:36:58 PM] Fank009: ...
[7:37:04 PM | Edited 7:37:06 PM] Fank009: IF they are someone i trust
[7:37:11 PM] Fank009: remember
[7:37:18 PM] Fank009: wolves can be in a house as well
[7:37:22 PM] Fank009: LUCKILY...
[7:37:23 PM] Aaron George: yes
[7:37:27 PM] Fank009: i allready have a baratheon
[7:37:32 PM] Aaron George: oh?
[7:37:34 PM] Aaron George: oh yeah olimar
[7:38:04 PM] Fank009: heres the catch...
[7:38:41 PM] Fank009: I know i only have at most, 4 to choose from
[7:39:21 PM] Fank009: (one of my group has a fake claim... from targaryen)
[7:39:39 PM] Aaron George: my fake role is a targaryen
[7:39:40 PM] Aaron George: so :O
[7:39:53 PM] Fank009: ...
[7:39:56 PM] Fank009: that makes it 3?
[7:39:57 PM] Fank009: :/
[7:40:04 PM] Fank009: my luck
[7:40:12 PM] Aaron George: yeah
[7:40:17 PM] Aaron George: isn't olimar's fake claim targaryen
[7:40:24 PM] Fank009: yea
[7:41:03 PM] Fank009: Olimar doesnt "trust" in my abilities... but he seems to be missing the point...
[7:41:06 PM] Aaron George: like
[7:41:07 PM] Aaron George: durr
[7:41:09 PM] Aaron George: or something
[7:41:22 PM] Fank009: Why would i openly give "my role"
[7:41:27 PM] Fank009: Its fairly powerful
[7:41:36 PM] Aaron George: oh

And then we were talking about FireArrow's alignment because he gave me two by accident.

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Important detail from this log: Olimar knew what Fank's role was.  Guess who died?

For the record, Fank had some absolutely fantastic powers.  The potential for two revives, and two fire attacks?  That's some pretty good stuff, and incredibly detrimental to the wolves.  (To anyone who has a reviving power: fank plz).

Don't think I need to say anymore.

[Liggy]

Unrelated but important:

[9:40:02 PM] Mashi: Hey, Liggy, just wanted to contact someone quickly that I'm doing After Prom stuff, so I'll still check in, but I won't be 100% active for the next two days.
[9:40:15 PM] Mashi: I'll still have time to do stuff late at night though, so don't worry!!!
[9:40:20 PM] Aaron George: oh
[9:40:24 PM] Aaron George: I was trying to contact you all day!
[9:40:27 PM] Aaron George: I'll pass the word on
[9:40:27 PM] Mashi: Anyway, going to party with my friends and eat foood. (party)
[9:40:36 PM] Mashi: Sorry, Liggster!!!
[9:40:42 PM] Aaron George: it's cool

[BlackDragonSlayer]

I agree with what you say about Olimar, Liggy, and I think it's quite suspicious, but before I cast a vote, I'd like to hear what other people (and preferably Olimar as well) have to say about the situation, as well as other facts, if they are available.

[FireArrow]

Ok, now I'm REALLY wishing I had my revive, frank getting wolfed just about flipped everything I thought I knew on it's head.

Before today, I was 100% certain in Olimar's humanity, but now that frank is dead, I'm not sure. I still believe he is human, but I'm no longer certain. I have some reasons why I still believe Olimar is human, but I'd prefer not to share them (I will if I have to.)

Oh, and liggy, the wolves have 2 roles to fake claim with, so Olimar lying isn't very conclusive evidence.

[Zunawe]

What reason does Olimar have for lying other than being a wolf? As far as we've discovered, it's wolves versus humans, and there aren't any win conditions for factions. I'm not sure exactly his motives in lying about his false role, so I'd like to hear his story as well.

[FireArrow]

Yeah, I'm really not sure. There seems no reason to lie about your role, no matter if your a human or a wolf.

[Olimar12345]

Yeah, I think I fucked up royally-but that's okay. I was just getting tired of this game anyway, so go ahead and kill me. Probably no pony will believe me now, but I wasn't a wolf, and killing me won't do you much good.

Good luck.

[Olimar12345]

Ah, and to address the reason for my lies, it was because of Fank. He pm'd me almost immediately once the game had started, wanting to create a rinky-dink team. Why would Fank, a great TWG-er, want to create a team with the new guy. That plus a few other hints led me to not want to trust him, so I didn't give him any of my real information. Posting it publicly was just a petty attempt to reassure him that I wasn't lying to him, which I was. 

[FSM-Reapr]

I'll make a huge defensive post for Olimar later, since he won't.

I think it goes without saying that I don't approve this lynch.

Don't worry Olimar, my bro. I got this covered. :J