The NinSheetMusic Redesign Suggestion Thread: Site features

[E. Gadd Industries]

Perhaps we could make a system that is exclusive to NSM, that everyone could know about, and that we could meet here or perhaps in another forum or other to discuss what the guidelines would be.

[AwesomeYears]

Only us Australians need everything :^)

[Dudeman]

Including a country, it seems. If Mashi's reasoning is anything to go by.

[12Mari0]

My logic was that if we have a system pre-made that works, why not use it?

[Pianist Da Sootopolis]

Are these difficulty ratings known and accepted worldwide and can you determine what rating you are without an examiner? I'm getting the feeling that it would only help the few users that are in Australia, in which case it would require tons more work than it would be worth.

AMEB grades IIRC are similar to the british ABRSM grades, which would honestly be better.
ABRSM grades are damn near exactly the same as most US college grades, if not carbon copies. The 1-8 system also works well for the sheets here, since most sheets fall within 3-7. That said, Bespinben's fanfares would likely have the rating of 8+ on them, since he puts in just about everything, often making sheets very hard (though never unplayable!).
Idk how well it would work for the forums, but it might make things easier to assess for classical pianists getting into VGM.
That said, that's probably a minority of people. But I don't think it would be a terrible thing; just not horribly necessary. We've had discussions on difficulty ratings before. If you're looking to improve, as well, you can also look at my pet project, the NSM Pedagogy, which is still largely in the works but hopefully we can get some stuff done soon.

[JDMEK5]

AMEB grades IIRC are similar to the british ABRSM grades, which would honestly be better.
ABRSM grades are damn near exactly the same as most US college grades, if not carbon copies. The 1-8 system also works well for the sheets here, since most sheets fall within 3-7. That said, Bespinben's fanfares would likely have the rating of 8+ on them, since he puts in just about everything, often making sheets very hard (though never unplayable!).
Idk how well it would work for the forums, but it might make things easier to assess for classical pianists getting into VGM.
That said, that's probably a minority of people. But I don't think it would be a terrible thing; just not horribly necessary. We've had discussions on difficulty ratings before. If you're looking to improve, as well, you can also look at my pet project, the NSM Pedagogy, which is still largely in the works but hopefully we can get some stuff done soon.

In Canada for sure, we have the Royal Conservatory of Music (RCM) grading system 1-10. These grading systems are subjective depending on where you are so I think the only valid grading system we could implement is one, as E.Gadd said, that we put together ourselves. That being said, these official grading systems have been tweaked over decades and decades by professionals who get paid to do it. I don't think a grading system is even necessary, really. If someone tries a piece, it's too hard, they give up and move on, etc. Works for me.

[12Mari0]

In Canada for sure, we have the Royal Conservatory of Music (RCM) grading system 1-10. These grading systems are subjective depending on where you are so I think the only valid grading system we could implement is one, as E.Gadd said, that we put together ourselves. That being said, these official grading systems have been tweaked over decades and decades by professionals who get paid to do it. I don't think a grading system is even necessary, really. If someone tries a piece, it's too hard, they give up and move on, etc. Works for me.

Why would we need to implement one ourselves; for everyone outside of the country that we may or may not pick, the system would be just as useful as a self-implemented system. There would be an added advantage to the users from the chosen country that wouldn't take away from the other users.

[Zunawe]

If we choose to implement a system, we would need to be as inclusive as possible, and we would need to be incredibly clear about which system we use. Otherwise, we're only confusing people who aren't familiar with the system. Creating a simple system would be the best option in my opinion (though it might require quite a bit of intuition). That way somebody could look at one number or color or whatever and be able to get a feel for the difficulty, perhaps without even knowing music. I believe a user voting system was mentioned at some point in the past, and while that is very difficult to regulate, it's an elegant idea.

The biggest problem I have with implementing a grade system established by an official music organization is that you could argue that a majority of people who use the site either won't know the system, will presume to know the system but be mistaken, or will be confused by the use of a system they weren't aware of. I think you guys may be overestimating the musical involvement of our average user as well. Heck, I'm hardly familiar with the rating system we use here, and I've been actively playing instruments for a decade.

[Sebastian]

There really isn't any need to implement a grade system.

[braix]

^To add onto this, I think that most  people could just look through a sheet or listen to the midi to get a feel of how difficult it is. At least, that's what I do.

[Olimar12345]

 The previous two posts summarize this entire debate lol.

[Jub3r7]

Next to the logout button, there should be one that allows a user to ban one's self from the website for an extended period of time

[Dudeman]

You could always privately message a mod and ask them to ban you quietly, if banning yourself really means that much to you. Adding it in as a default feature seems like a strange addition to the default hub.

[MaestroUGC]

No, we decided a while ago against self-requested bans. You can just log out if you wish.

[mikey]

No, no, he's on to something