TWG XLIX: Red vs. Blue

[Yugi]

EXACTLY MASHI.

And can you please show me that chat log?

[vermilionvermin]

At the very least tell him if you received an AI unit yesterday or if you have one currently.  Maybe wait a little bit on this one because I'm not 100% sure the meta can't receive items.

[blueflower999]

Claimed to FSM. Even though I probably shouldn't have. 

[Waddle Bro]

I claimed also.

[Toby]

Yeh, guys I don't like how we are confirming someone due to 1 action they performed. Don't like that.  I've also been suspicious of FSM due to reasons I forget.

[Mashi]

My suspicions are of FSM-Reapr and TheBoyWhoCriedWolf.

TheBoyWhoCriedWolf:
False claimed Seer.  How do I know this?  I'm the Seer.  I claimed to BlackDragonSlayer at the last minute (because I was worried that not everyone had viewed the topic yet , so he probably didn't receive it on time.  I'll screenshot it (because I checked the box in my profile that says to save all my sent messages for once, so take that forum!!!) as proof.  Further suspicion of him is warranted due to FSM-Reapr's post claiming to view TheBoyWhoCriedWolf's with a grain of salt, which I'll explain in FSM-Reapr's section.


FSM-Reapr:
My initial suspicion began (probably erroneously) based on this:

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[3/1/2013 7:25:34 PM] Saria: XDDD
[3/1/2013 7:25:56 PM] Saria: [removed so I don't embarrass a member]
[3/1/2013 7:26:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: [I removed the name because I don't want things to become personal by it being more public]
[3/1/2013 7:26:26 PM] Saria: XD
[3/1/2013 7:26:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: because
[3/1/2013 7:26:42 PM] Saria: aiyiyiyi!
[3/1/2013 7:26:49 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im a wuff in the current twg
[3/1/2013 7:26:49 PM] Saria: [removed because name]
[3/1/2013 7:26:55 PM] Otso Syrjänen: [removed also]
[3/1/2013 7:26:56 PM] Saria: o
[3/1/2013 7:26:58 PM] Saria: xD
[3/1/2013 7:27:10 PM] Otso Syrjänen: naah
[3/1/2013 7:27:12 PM] Otso Syrjänen: jk
[3/1/2013 7:27:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: or am i
[3/1/2013 7:27:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: =O

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FSM-Reapr:

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[5:53:57 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: fsm-reapr
[5:54:04 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: you do realise that im playing in twg right
[5:54:09 AM] Otso Syrjänen: Yeah.
[5:54:25 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: o
[5:54:27 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: you said jk
[5:54:29 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: afterwards
[5:54:31 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: nvm
[5:54:35 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: lol
[5:54:36 AM] Otso Syrjänen: lol that
[5:54:40 AM] Otso Syrjänen: XD
[5:54:49 AM] Otso Syrjänen: Dude told me to delete that.
[5:54:56 AM] Otso Syrjänen: I was like nu-uh
[5:55:20 AM] Otso Syrjänen: On 2.3.2013, at 2.30, Otso Syrjänen wrote:
> It was merely a joke and I know people will understand it
[5:55:40 AM] Otso Syrjänen: also I had no caps in that
[5:55:46 AM] Otso Syrjänen: so yeah

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So I had begun to suspect him since yesterday.  Today, we had this long conversation:

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[3:48:37 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi do you have the A.I Gamma?
[3:48:45 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: No.
[3:48:53 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Too bad.
[3:48:53 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I have no AIs.
[3:49:11 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Don't lie to me
[3:49:18 PM] Otso Syrjänen: jk
[3:49:35 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I know you'd say that even if you had one
[3:49:45 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: But
[3:49:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I don't.
[3:50:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: my meta is on you today
[3:50:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: because
[3:50:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: i will help the humans by wasting a meta
[3:50:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'm confused.
[3:50:59 PM] Otso Syrjänen: no one would die
[3:51:00 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Metas are the same as AIs???
[3:51:19 PM] Otso Syrjänen: meta = meta kill
[3:51:36 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You're the Meta?
[3:51:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What do you mean by "my meta is on you today?"
[3:52:14 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im the meta
[3:52:25 PM] Otso Syrjänen: and i would be wasting a kill
[3:52:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Because I believe you!!!
[3:52:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[3:53:05 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Wait, why do you want to help the Humans if you're the Meta?
[3:53:19 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I was merely kidding
[3:53:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: lol
[3:53:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: People are making me the Meta Hunter
[3:53:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: idk
[3:54:08 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: maybe youre the
[3:54:11 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: metawolf please
[3:54:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: darn
[3:54:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: you caught me
[3:54:28 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: B)
[3:54:30 PM] Otso Syrjänen: gg
[3:55:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: anyways
[3:55:26 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi
[3:55:55 PM] Otso Syrjänen: start working on those Superlatinodancers!!!
[3:56:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I want to see what I won before I leave.
[3:57:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'll make sure to do iyours before your departure then!
[4:01:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi
[4:02:15 PM] Otso Syrjänen: people are legitimately claiming to me
[4:02:26 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what do i do
[4:02:30 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: wait what happened
[4:02:45 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I negated the Night phase
[4:02:52 PM] Otso Syrjänen: it's Day again
[4:03:00 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That's all?
[4:03:10 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And people are claiming to you???
[4:03:12 PM] Otso Syrjänen: read the thread
[4:03:20 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I know you did that, but
[4:03:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That's the only reason people claimed to you?
[4:03:30 PM] Otso Syrjänen: idk
[4:03:31 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Or someone.
[4:03:36 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Whichever.
[4:03:41 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That's frivolous.
[4:03:53 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Waddle's and Hunter's posts were convincing
[4:03:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: help
[4:04:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im the alliance leader now
[4:04:23 PM] Otso Syrjänen: And I'm leaving soon
[4:04:29 PM] Otso Syrjänen: D:
[4:04:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: They claimed Roles or having Gamma or...?
[4:05:00 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi if you're a wuff please wolf me
[4:05:05 PM] Otso Syrjänen: plz
[4:05:16 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'm not.
[4:05:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I can't tell ]
[4:05:25 PM] Otso Syrjänen: jurk
[4:05:39 PM] Otso Syrjänen: ur always teh wuff please
[4:06:08 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:06:43 PM] Otso Syrjänen: No but seriously, if you're a wuff please kill me
[4:06:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: D:
[4:07:18 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You could always find a replacement.
[4:07:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I don't wanna be the alliance leader
[4:07:24 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: It's nothing to worry about, don't worry.
[4:07:49 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im too good in twg
[4:08:14 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I end up as the alliance leader when I don't want to
[4:08:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:08:39 PM] Otso Syrjänen: my kind of luck
[4:09:32 PM] Otso Syrjänen: K so I now knoe the identity of the seer
[4:09:35 PM] Otso Syrjänen: yaaay
[4:09:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:10:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: staph it people
[4:10:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: plz
[4:10:25 PM] Otso Syrjänen: brb
[4:11:27 PM] Otso Syrjänen: back
[4:12:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Yay.
[4:14:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: how do you share skype chats
[4:14:24 PM] Otso Syrjänen: sending this log to sheikah just in case
[4:14:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste.
[4:14:37 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[4:14:39 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: lol
[4:29:43 PM] Otso Syrjänen: So Mashi
[4:29:57 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Let's get serious fr a while
[4:30:05 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Okay.
[4:30:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Do you feel safe claiming to me?
[4:30:18 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Whom are you suspicious of?
[4:30:27 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I suppose.
[4:30:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Okay, do you have anything to be claimed
[4:31:10 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: No.
[4:31:20 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Actually, yes.
[4:31:24 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I am the Please!!!
[4:31:33 PM] Otso Syrjänen: You're a human without powers, right?
[4:31:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: ya
[4:31:44 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Kä
[4:31:47 PM] Otso Syrjänen: *K
[4:31:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And you're a Wolf???
[4:32:14 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I'm actually a human without powers
[4:32:40 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Why were you asking me in particular of whether I had a claim?
[4:33:01 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I do that to everybody I'll chat with.
[4:33:10 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Who have you chatted with?
[4:33:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: It's important we'll get the alliance going.
[4:33:23 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Verm.
[4:33:37 PM] Otso Syrjänen: and received PMs from people
[4:33:53 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What I suspect.
[4:33:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Is that I'm the Herring
[4:34:05 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: One of the Wolves seered me Blue.
[4:34:25 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And then you decided to check whether I was a Special by asking that question.
[4:34:26 PM] Otso Syrjänen: How do you know?
[4:34:39 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Because you asked me specifically if I would claim.
[4:34:55 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And then asked me whether I was a Special.
[4:35:06 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Well, Human.
[4:35:13 PM] Otso Syrjänen: To be honest Mashi, I kinda set a trap for you.
[4:35:16 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:35:26 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Because you're a Wolf???
[4:36:06 PM] Otso Syrjänen:     On 2.3.2013, at 23.09, Otso Syrjänen wrote:
    > K so I now knoe the identity of the seer
[4:36:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen:     Mashi    11:10:42 PM    Viewing Who's Online.
[4:36:31 PM] Otso Syrjänen: kinda sketchy
[4:36:45 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Lying about receiving a Seer claim is sketchy???
[4:36:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: isn't*
[4:37:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: No one said I was lying.
[4:37:07 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:37:24 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I only decided to tell you about it.
[4:37:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You were; there were no hidden users and blueflower999 was the only TWGer online at the time, and he wasn't sending a message.
[4:38:19 PM] Otso Syrjänen: And you rush to see who could have sent the PM.
[4:38:40 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: The problem with your argument
[4:38:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Is that I would have checked Whois Online whether I was a Human or a Wolf.
[4:39:10 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Fun fact: I received the PM 10:56:49 PM
[4:39:26 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: could you convert that to est for me
[4:39:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: It's 4:39PM right now for me.
[4:39:49 PM] Otso Syrjänen: 14 min before you checked WO
[4:39:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: 3:56PM???
[4:39:53 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: o
[4:40:30 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I don't see why anyone would claim to you anyway, however.
[4:40:35 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I know my trap wasn't much, but it was merely to see your reaction.
[4:40:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Your lie is difficult to believe in.
[4:40:51 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: TheBoyWhoCriedWolf claimed Seer in the thread.
[4:40:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what lie
[4:41:07 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Your lie about receiving the Seer claim!
[4:41:13 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Or claims in general even!
[4:41:31 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Actually I did receive claims.
[4:42:01 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi you're acting like you're worried of something.
[4:42:02 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: No one rational would claim to you for such frivolous reasons.
[4:42:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: ?
[4:42:45 PM] Otso Syrjänen: idk You just seem that way compared to your previous style
[4:43:01 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Are you the Meta or the Wolf?
[4:43:06 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Well, a Wolf, rather.
[4:43:10 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Why would no one claim to me?
[4:43:25 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: FSM-Reapr, I clearly don't believe in  you having received claims.
[4:43:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: No use in arguing for it.
[4:43:42 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And I'm highly suspicious of you currently.
[4:43:51 PM] Otso Syrjänen: K
[4:44:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: That can easily be proven
[4:44:20 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What can?
[4:44:31 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Me receiving claims.
[4:44:57 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Screenshot the PM and cross out the name then.
[4:45:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I'll just tell the people to say publicly they claimed to me.
[4:45:08 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Or that.
[4:45:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: lol
[4:45:25 PM] Otso Syrjänen: XD
[4:45:37 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Wait, no, that's dumb.
[4:46:03 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Because since ostensibly the Seer claimed to you, he/she would be one of the claimers.
[4:47:24 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Hmmm
[4:47:27 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: wait
[4:47:33 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You asked people to claim to you in the thread.
[4:47:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And now everything makes sense.
[4:47:51 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what
[4:48:21 PM] Otso Syrjänen: How does something suddenly make sense lol
[4:49:21 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: wait, omg
[4:49:30 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: ive made so much sense of stuff
[4:49:32 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: thx fsm
[4:49:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what
[4:49:40 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: TIME FOR A BIG POST.
[4:49:57 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what are you doing
[4:50:19 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'm about to out some Wolves.
[4:50:23 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You included.
[4:53:49 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: btw I see you sending that message.
[4:54:26 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Ya it's about telling people to claim publicly
[4:54:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: stalker!!!!
[4:54:48 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Screencap it.
[4:54:54 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[4:54:55 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Or better yet, copy and paste it.
[4:55:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[4:55:03 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What you have so far.
[4:55:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And give it to me on Skype.
[4:55:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I just started lol
[4:55:46 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I'm listening Black and White soundtrack on Youtube
[4:56:01 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I haven't written anything yet
[4:56:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: but I will now!
[4:56:35 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste the Youtube link.
[4:56:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Right now.
[4:56:43 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: 5 seconds!!!
[4:56:51 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[4:56:54 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: TIME'S UP.
[4:57:00 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You're caught, FSM-Reapr!
[4:57:23 PM] Otso Syrjänen: www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WxgaDW6LUY
[4:57:29 PM] Otso Syrjänen: there lol
[4:57:45 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: idk
[4:57:54 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Should it really take so long for you to copy and paste a simple link?
[4:57:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: In no way I could have got to Youtube and search that song
[4:58:06 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Yes, you could have!
[4:58:18 PM] Otso Syrjänen: -___-
[4:58:48 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Hmm, wait.
[4:58:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what
[4:59:23 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Checking something.
[4:59:27 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[5:00:31 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: How did you find that video?
[5:00:49 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I mean, how did you find it in the first place?
[5:02:17 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Sending another message???
[5:02:35 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste it!!!
[5:03:31 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: FSM-Reapr!!!
[5:06:55 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Are you there nowww?
[5:12:28 PM] Otso Syrjänen: WOW
[5:12:33 PM] Otso Syrjänen: INSANE LAG
[5:12:44 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[5:12:51 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You should copy and paste the message now then!
[5:13:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I hate that little ball
[5:13:19 PM] Otso Syrjänen: JESUS
[5:13:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: MY FIREFOX IS LAGGING BIG TIME
[5:14:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Okay.
[5:14:30 PM] Otso Syrjänen: wait
[5:14:32 PM] Otso Syrjänen: brb
[5:14:37 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste it before you go.
[5:14:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: laptopoverheating
[5:15:04 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I can't copypasta anything on firefox
[5:15:16 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Yes, you can. :/
[5:15:23 PM] Otso Syrjänen: There is this circle of death
[5:15:25 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste has nothing to do with browser.
[5:15:30 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: o
[5:15:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: No, there is this circle that doesn't allow you to click on anything
[5:16:04 PM] Otso Syrjänen: brb
[5:16:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: overheating
[5:19:57 PM] Otso Syrjänen: backk
[5:20:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Hi.

I would like you to tell publicly that you claimed to me. Don't tell what you claimed, just that you claimed.
[5:20:28 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: It took your computer 3 minutes to stop overheating.
[5:20:29 PM] Otso Syrjänen: sent to Waddle Bro, sending it to other people too
[5:20:33 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Ya
[5:20:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And also took you 3 minutes to write that?
[5:20:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You wouldn't even have needed to copy and paste it, you could have typed it out.
[5:21:18 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Why did you single out Waddle Bro?
[5:21:53 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I'm sending it to other people also, but laptop started being a pain in the ass.
[5:23:27 PM] Otso Syrjänen: and wb is my wuff partner duh
[5:23:39 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[5:23:57 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'm not so sure to believe that.
[5:24:07 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Sounds like you're placing a red herring since I'm accusing you!
[5:26:11 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Actually, I think I'm pretty safe.

[close]

Bolded parts are most important.  I initially didn't believe that FSM-Reapr was receiving any claims because I didn't realise people said in the topic that people should claim to him, so we argued about that for a while in the middle.

I became immediately suspicious of FSM-Reapr when he asked me specifically if I trusted him and would claim to him.  Reason being as I mentioned; I suspected that I was seered Blue and he wanted to verify whether I was an actual Special or the Herring.  He couldn't have seered me with the Seering AI (Delta) because he claimed to have used Gamma to end the Phase.  Which means that if any seering occurred, it would be because he's a Wolf!

Afterwards, I caught him sending a PM again (FSM-Reapr    04:51:49 PM    Sending a message.) and when I questioned why, he stated that it was about making people claim publicly.  Even though I clearly stated that doing so under the presumption that all the claims were legitimate would root out Players for possibly being the Seer (which is false, as I'm the Seer!).  blueflower999 and WaddleBro, what was the exact time you received the PM?  And what did the PM say exactly?
(I asked blueflower999 on Skype and he's said:

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[6:04:41 PM] Blueflower999: Looks like 5:24 PM
[6:04:45 PM] Blueflower999: Our time
[6:04:46 PM] Blueflower999: I think
[6:04:51 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What about seconds?
[6:04:56 PM] Blueflower999: 12
[6:05:02 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Okay, thanks.

I left because my mother called me downstairs and when I returned:

[6:47:54 PM] Blueflower999: I'll talk about this later
[6:48:01 PM] Blueflower999: I have to go see a play my sister is preforming in!
[6:48:05 PM] Blueflower999: : D
[6:48:11 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Could you copy and paste it quickly?
[6:48:18 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That's all I'm asking for.
[6:48:27 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And enjoy your sister's performance!
[6:48:29 PM] Blueflower999: Fine
[6:48:30 PM] Blueflower999: But just for you
[6:48:31 PM] Blueflower999: Hi.

I would like you to tell publicly that you claimed to me. Don't tell what you claimed, just that you claimed.
[6:48:37 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Thanks.
[6:48:43 PM] Blueflower999: Bye!
[6:48:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Byeee.
[6:48:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Tell her I said she was super ultra coll!

[close]

So FSM-Reapr's claim of sending it was legitimate, but the timing is waaay off.

Anyhow, when I asked him to copy and paste the message, he said he didn't start it yet (something which may be legitimate, I'm not so sure).  He claimed to have been listening to Youtube Pokemon music at the time.  When asked to copy and paste it, it took him about 48 seconds to do so (between when I told him to and when he actually did).  He claims also that there was no way to have gone to Youtube to search that piece, which implies that he must have had that link opened still when I asked him to copy and paste it.  Furthermore, try it out yourself; it takes no more than 5 seconds to copy and paste a link somewhere.  Even with lag, it would take much less than 48 seconds (and even if FSM-Reapr wasn't lagging at the time, he didn't use it as an excuse at the time, so I highly doubt that he was lagging, as he would have mentioned it if he were).  Using my sneaky tactics, I discovered that he was subscribed to the creator of the video:

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[6:38:14 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: hey fsm
[6:38:24 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I didn't mention it before, but
[6:38:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That Pokemon piece is A+++.
[6:38:30 PM] Otso Syrjänen: ya
[6:38:40 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: lol
[6:38:44 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I know right
[6:38:57 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Jazz is super coll.
[6:39:11 PM] Otso Syrjänen: correct
[6:39:17 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood:
[6:39:28 PM] Otso Syrjänen:
[6:39:57 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Also, circle nine is best number.
[6:40:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: correct again
[6:40:48 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: should i subscribe to this person
[6:40:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: idk
[6:41:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: are you subscribed to this person
[6:41:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: ya
[6:41:26 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'll subscribe then!!!
[6:41:38 PM] Otso Syrjänen: icy wat u did thar
[6:41:48 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood:
[6:41:50 PM] Otso Syrjänen:
[6:42:28 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: dun
[6:42:42 PM] Otso Syrjänen: wat
[6:42:50 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Subscribing.
[6:42:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k

[close]

As the video was new, I'm suspecting that he went to Youtube and probably clicked the first video on his homepage feed.

Anyhow, he started sending another message (FSM-Reapr    04:59:42 PM    Sending a message.) and when I asked him to inform me of its comments about 3 minutes later, he complained of lag (first time I've heard of it happening.  Waddle Bro, can you confirm whether that happens consistently?).  What perfect timing!  Anyhow, he stated that his laptop was overheating (more perfect timing!) and stated that he would brb.  Yet he returned 3 minutes later.  I don't know about other laptops, but from what I know about mine (because we all know I apparently have the worst laptop and computers ever!!!), it does not take 3 minutes whatsoever for a laptop to stop overheating.  And when a laptop is put on rest, sleep, or shut down, Skype is logged out of (or at least, that's what happens to mine); but FSM-Reapr was online Skype the whole time!

Anyhow, he claimed to have sent the messages to Waddle Bro (specifically) and others.  I think he wanted to place a red herring on him, as I mentioned in the log, but I'm not too sure; it's just speculation.


Anyway, one last reason I suspect FSM-Reapr, aside from his most likely telling of lies, is this.
I could see him saying this if he were the Seer (he's not) or a Wolf (he probably is).  Maybe as a Human too, but if he were a Human, I would imagine that he would state reasons for doing so (said reasons being that he would have expected TheBoyWhoCriedWolf to have read the game before claiming).  I think that FSM-Reapr is a Wolf who said that in order to create separation between him and the false claiming TheBoyWhoCriedWolf in case TheBoyWhoCriedWolf was ascertained to be false claiming, by which FSM-Reapr would appear more Human as a result.


Anyway, here are my two messages to BlackDragonSlayer:

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WaddleBro was seered Green, also.

[FSM-Reapr]

This is going to be fun.

I'll make a good reply tomorrow. It's too late for me now.

[FSM-Reapr]

Okay, read the post.

Don't worry, my defense will come tomorrow! You just wait.

(things like this make TWG very enjoyable)

[Bubbles]

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[3/1/2013 7:25:34 PM] Saria: XDDD
[3/1/2013 7:25:56 PM] Saria: [removed so I don't embarrass a member]
[3/1/2013 7:26:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: [I removed the name because I don't want things to become personal by it being more public]
[3/1/2013 7:26:26 PM] Saria: XD
[3/1/2013 7:26:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: because
[3/1/2013 7:26:42 PM] Saria: aiyiyiyi!
[3/1/2013 7:26:49 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im a wuff in the current twg
[3/1/2013 7:26:49 PM] Saria: [removed because name]
[3/1/2013 7:26:55 PM] Otso Syrjänen: [removed also]
[3/1/2013 7:26:56 PM] Saria: o
[3/1/2013 7:26:58 PM] Saria: xD
[3/1/2013 7:27:10 PM] Otso Syrjänen: naah
[3/1/2013 7:27:12 PM] Otso Syrjänen: jk
[3/1/2013 7:27:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: or am i
[3/1/2013 7:27:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: =O

[close]

Why did you have to delete that stuff D: Now I'm curious

Honestly, I didnt believe TBWCW when he claimed seer. I mean this

Kk I'm church the seer.

doesnt seem like he was legitimately claiming. But then his reaction, after "reading the thread"

What? Oh wait ...ahhhh


This is why I should have read thread first .-.

means that apparently he was serious? I'm not really sure what went on there.

About the soundtrack, heres another thing to think about. If he was listening to a soundtrack, he wouldve had a playlist. Whenever I listen to a soundtrack on youtube, I find a playlist and put it on autoplay so I dont have to click on another link in order to go to the next song in the list (When you copypaste the link in a playlist, it will link to that playlist instead of the individual song, like this). He still could've been changing the songs after every time, or just kept repeating that one on loop, but theres plenty of better ways to do it. Not that what he was listening to had a huge part in him being suspicious.

Also, heres a dumb question: Do the wolves know each other? Its really late in the game but I realized I dont really know -.-

[vermilionvermin]

I have a part in this.  I'm still a bit confused this game, especially given Mashi's seer claim.  Here's a conversation I had with Mr. T on Night 1.

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19:21   Verm   I forgot to tell you that NSM has its own TWG chat
19:22   Mr. T   Hi
19:22   Verm   hi
19:22   Mr. T   And btw, I pulled really crappy shenanigans
19:22   Verm   Click on the green "Connect" link: http://search.mibbit.com/search/twgnsm
19:22   Mr. T   Stupid TBWCW thretened to have someone snipe me
19:22   Verm   wait what
19:22   Mr. T   Yeah
19:22   Verm   he should not have that authority unless he's a wolf
19:23   Mr. T   Oh wait what
19:23   Verm   The sniper is a wolf role.
19:23   Mr. T   Kill him, then!
19:23   Verm   How did he phrase it?
19:23   Verm   Did he say something like "Retract your claim or you'll be sniped"?
19:23   Verm   because that would imply something different
19:24   Verm   the wolves have a sniper role, which allows them to kill one player during the middle of a phase
19:29   Mr. T   Yeah, he said that
19:29   Mr. T   I think
19:29   Mr. T   Here, I'll show it to you
19:30   Mr. T   Take back your claim now!  There's a sniper, he'll snipe you!  Say in the thread "Lol jokes, not really"  Or something. If you think I'm a wolf, think again or else I'll have sniped you.  If you didn't know, a sniper is someone who can kill any time they want. Which could be now.
19:30   Mr. T   That's what he said
19:30   Mr. T   I thnk it might just have been an awkward wording
19:30   Mr. T   But who knows
19:31   Mr. T   I don't trust him, personally
19:31   Verm   he probably thinks you're the real seer
19:31   Mr. T   Oh, okay
19:31   Mr. T   Haha, you're probably a wolf
19:31   Mr. T   And now I'll be dying soon
19:31   Mr. T   No, I trust you
19:31   Mr. T   Mostly
19:32   Mr. T   I forgot, is Mashi playing or not?
19:32   Verm   he is

[close]

I told FSM of this conversation, though I didn't actually send him the text.  This conversation is causing me to have serious doubts about Mashi's claim.  From this conversation, it's pretty clear that Mr. T didn't have an adequate understanding of what the sniper role does.  If that's the case, there's no reason for him to counterclaim TBWCW -- unless he's the real seer.

Furthermore, Mr. T likes to hang out in the LLF chatroom, which Mashi and I both frequent.  That's where this conversation took place.  I don't think it's out of the question that Mashi found out Mr. T's role just like I was.  Mr. T didn't exactly hide it.

On the flipside, Mashi's means it would make a lot more sense for him to oppose claiming to FSM.

[vermilionvermin]

*On the flipside, Mashi's claim means it would make a lot more sense for him to oppose claiming to FSM.

[Yugi]

Why is claim bolded?

[vermilionvermin]

Because I forgot it in my previous post.

[FSM-Reapr]

So I just closed the fucking page with all of my text in it. Here we go again!

Going with these in the order they were done.

Anyway, one last reason I suspect FSM-Reapr, aside from his most likely telling of lies, is this.
I could see him saying this if he were the Seer (he's not) or a Wolf (he probably is).  Maybe as a Human too, but if he were a Human, I would imagine that he would state reasons for doing so (said reasons being that he would have expected TheBoyWhoCriedWolf to have read the game before claiming).  I think that FSM-Reapr is a Wolf who said that in order to create separation between him and the false claiming TheBoyWhoCriedWolf in case TheBoyWhoCriedWolf was ascertained to be false claiming, by which FSM-Reapr would appear more Human as a result.

Let me open with this PM I sent to TBWCW and BDS right after I made that post:

Of course my post was made to make wolves not to wolf you TBWCW.

I wanted to make him even just a little bit suspicious so the wolves wouldn't wolf him. This was the time where there was only one seer claim.
Now onto the next one: the lies!!!

FSM-Reapr:
My initial suspicion began (probably erroneously) based on this:

Spoiler

[3/1/2013 7:25:34 PM] Saria: XDDD
[3/1/2013 7:25:56 PM] Saria: [removed so I don't embarrass a member]
[3/1/2013 7:26:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: [I removed the name because I don't want things to become personal by it being more public]
[3/1/2013 7:26:26 PM] Saria: XD
[3/1/2013 7:26:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: because
[3/1/2013 7:26:42 PM] Saria: aiyiyiyi!
[3/1/2013 7:26:49 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im a wuff in the current twg
[3/1/2013 7:26:49 PM] Saria: [removed because name]
[3/1/2013 7:26:55 PM] Otso Syrjänen: [removed also]
[3/1/2013 7:26:56 PM] Saria: o
[3/1/2013 7:26:58 PM] Saria: xD
[3/1/2013 7:27:10 PM] Otso Syrjänen: naah
[3/1/2013 7:27:12 PM] Otso Syrjänen: jk
[3/1/2013 7:27:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: or am i
[3/1/2013 7:27:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: =O

[close]

FSM-Reapr:

Spoiler

[5:53:57 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: fsm-reapr
[5:54:04 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: you do realise that im playing in twg right
[5:54:09 AM] Otso Syrjänen: Yeah.
[5:54:25 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: o
[5:54:27 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: you said jk
[5:54:29 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: afterwards
[5:54:31 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: nvm
[5:54:35 AM] Little Red Mashi Hood: lol
[5:54:36 AM] Otso Syrjänen: lol that
[5:54:40 AM] Otso Syrjänen: XD
[5:54:49 AM] Otso Syrjänen: Dude told me to delete that.
[5:54:56 AM] Otso Syrjänen: I was like nu-uh
[5:55:20 AM] Otso Syrjänen: On 2.3.2013, at 2.30, Otso Syrjänen wrote:
> It was merely a joke and I know people will understand it
[5:55:40 AM] Otso Syrjänen: also I had no caps in that
[5:55:46 AM] Otso Syrjänen: so yeah

[close]

FSM: I won't comment on this. This was a joke.

Spoiler

Dude 2.3.2013 2.29
On 2.3.2013, at 2.26, Otso Syrjänen wrote:
> im a wuff in the current twg
you should probably delete that
2.3.2013 2.29
just in case
Otso Syrjänen 2.3.2013 2.30
lol I don't see why
Dude 2.3.2013 2.30
is anyone here playing?
2.3.2013 2.30
mashi?
Otso Syrjänen 2.3.2013 2.30
It was merely a joke and I know people will understand it
Dude 2.3.2013 2.30
whatever~
2.3.2013 2.30
gl
Otso Syrjänen 2.3.2013 2.31
thx

[close]

So I had begun to suspect him since yesterday.  Today, we had this long conversation:

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[3:48:37 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi do you have the A.I Gamma?
[3:48:45 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: No.
[3:48:53 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Too bad.
[3:48:53 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I have no AIs.
[3:49:11 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Don't lie to me
[3:49:18 PM] Otso Syrjänen: jk
[3:49:35 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I know you'd say that even if you had one
[3:49:45 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: But
[3:49:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I don't.
[3:50:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: my meta is on you today
[3:50:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: because
[3:50:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: i will help the humans by wasting a meta
[3:50:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'm confused.
[3:50:59 PM] Otso Syrjänen: no one would die
[3:51:00 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Metas are the same as AIs???
[3:51:19 PM] Otso Syrjänen: meta = meta kill
[3:51:36 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You're the Meta?
[3:51:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What do you mean by "my meta is on you today?"
[3:52:14 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im the meta
[3:52:25 PM] Otso Syrjänen: and i would be wasting a kill
[3:52:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Because I believe you!!!
[3:52:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[3:53:05 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Wait, why do you want to help the Humans if you're the Meta?
[3:53:19 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I was merely kidding
[3:53:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: lol
[3:53:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: People are making me the Meta Hunter
[3:53:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: idk
[3:54:08 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: maybe youre the
[3:54:11 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: metawolf please
[3:54:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: darn
[3:54:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: you caught me
[3:54:28 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: B)
[3:54:30 PM] Otso Syrjänen: gg
[3:55:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: anyways
[3:55:26 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi
[3:55:55 PM] Otso Syrjänen: start working on those Superlatinodancers!!!
[3:56:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I want to see what I won before I leave.
[3:57:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'll make sure to do iyours before your departure then!
[4:01:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi
[4:02:15 PM] Otso Syrjänen: people are legitimately claiming to me
[4:02:26 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what do i do
[4:02:30 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: wait what happened
[4:02:45 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I negated the Night phase
[4:02:52 PM] Otso Syrjänen: it's Day again
[4:03:00 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That's all?
[4:03:10 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And people are claiming to you???
[4:03:12 PM] Otso Syrjänen: read the thread
[4:03:20 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I know you did that, but
[4:03:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That's the only reason people claimed to you?
[4:03:30 PM] Otso Syrjänen: idk
[4:03:31 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Or someone.
[4:03:36 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Whichever.
[4:03:41 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That's frivolous.
[4:03:53 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Waddle's and Hunter's posts were convincing
[4:03:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: help
[4:04:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im the alliance leader now
[4:04:23 PM] Otso Syrjänen: And I'm leaving soon
[4:04:29 PM] Otso Syrjänen: D:
[4:04:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: They claimed Roles or having Gamma or...?
[4:05:00 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi if you're a wuff please wolf me
[4:05:05 PM] Otso Syrjänen: plz
[4:05:16 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'm not.
[4:05:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I can't tell ]
[4:05:25 PM] Otso Syrjänen: jurk
[4:05:39 PM] Otso Syrjänen: ur always teh wuff please
[4:06:08 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:06:43 PM] Otso Syrjänen: No but seriously, if you're a wuff please kill me
[4:06:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: D:
[4:07:18 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You could always find a replacement.
[4:07:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I don't wanna be the alliance leader
[4:07:24 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: It's nothing to worry about, don't worry.
[4:07:49 PM] Otso Syrjänen: im too good in twg
[4:08:14 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I end up as the alliance leader when I don't want to
[4:08:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:08:39 PM] Otso Syrjänen: my kind of luck
[4:09:32 PM] Otso Syrjänen: K so I now knoe the identity of the seer
[4:09:35 PM] Otso Syrjänen: yaaay
[4:09:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:10:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: staph it people
[4:10:22 PM] Otso Syrjänen: plz
[4:10:25 PM] Otso Syrjänen: brb
[4:11:27 PM] Otso Syrjänen: back
[4:12:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Yay.
[4:14:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: how do you share skype chats
[4:14:24 PM] Otso Syrjänen: sending this log to sheikah just in case
[4:14:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste.
[4:14:37 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[4:14:39 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: lol
[4:29:43 PM] Otso Syrjänen: So Mashi
[4:29:57 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Let's get serious fr a while
[4:30:05 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Okay.
[4:30:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Do you feel safe claiming to me?
[4:30:18 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Whom are you suspicious of?
[4:30:27 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I suppose.
[4:30:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Okay, do you have anything to be claimed
[4:31:10 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: No.
[4:31:20 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Actually, yes.
[4:31:24 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I am the Please!!!
[4:31:33 PM] Otso Syrjänen: You're a human without powers, right?
[4:31:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: ya
[4:31:44 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Kä
[4:31:47 PM] Otso Syrjänen: *K
[4:31:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And you're a Wolf???
[4:32:14 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I'm actually a human without powers
[4:32:40 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Why were you asking me in particular of whether I had a claim?
[4:33:01 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I do that to everybody I'll chat with.
[4:33:10 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Who have you chatted with?
[4:33:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: It's important we'll get the alliance going.
[4:33:23 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Verm.
[4:33:37 PM] Otso Syrjänen: and received PMs from people
[4:33:53 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What I suspect.
[4:33:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Is that I'm the Herring
[4:34:05 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: One of the Wolves seered me Blue.
[4:34:25 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And then you decided to check whether I was a Special by asking that question.
[4:34:26 PM] Otso Syrjänen: How do you know?
[4:34:39 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Because you asked me specifically if I would claim.
[4:34:55 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And then asked me whether I was a Special.
[4:35:06 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Well, Human.
[4:35:13 PM] Otso Syrjänen: To be honest Mashi, I kinda set a trap for you.
[4:35:16 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:35:26 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Because you're a Wolf???
[4:36:06 PM] Otso Syrjänen:     On 2.3.2013, at 23.09, Otso Syrjänen wrote:
    > K so I now knoe the identity of the seer
[4:36:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen:     Mashi    11:10:42 PM    Viewing Who's Online.
[4:36:31 PM] Otso Syrjänen: kinda sketchy
[4:36:45 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Lying about receiving a Seer claim is sketchy???
[4:36:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: isn't*
[4:37:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: No one said I was lying.
[4:37:07 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[4:37:24 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I only decided to tell you about it.
[4:37:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You were; there were no hidden users and blueflower999 was the only TWGer online at the time, and he wasn't sending a message.
[4:38:19 PM] Otso Syrjänen: And you rush to see who could have sent the PM.
[4:38:40 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: The problem with your argument
[4:38:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Is that I would have checked Whois Online whether I was a Human or a Wolf.
[4:39:10 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Fun fact: I received the PM 10:56:49 PM
[4:39:26 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: could you convert that to est for me
[4:39:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: It's 4:39PM right now for me.
[4:39:49 PM] Otso Syrjänen: 14 min before you checked WO
[4:39:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: 3:56PM???
[4:39:53 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: o
[4:40:30 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I don't see why anyone would claim to you anyway, however.
[4:40:35 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I know my trap wasn't much, but it was merely to see your reaction.
[4:40:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Your lie is difficult to believe in.
[4:40:51 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: TheBoyWhoCriedWolf claimed Seer in the thread.
[4:40:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what lie
[4:41:07 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Your lie about receiving the Seer claim!
[4:41:13 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Or claims in general even!
[4:41:31 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Actually I did receive claims.
[4:42:01 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Mashi you're acting like you're worried of something.
[4:42:02 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: No one rational would claim to you for such frivolous reasons.
[4:42:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: ?
[4:42:45 PM] Otso Syrjänen: idk You just seem that way compared to your previous style
[4:43:01 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Are you the Meta or the Wolf?
[4:43:06 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Well, a Wolf, rather.
[4:43:10 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Why would no one claim to me?
[4:43:25 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: FSM-Reapr, I clearly don't believe in  you having received claims.
[4:43:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: No use in arguing for it.
[4:43:42 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And I'm highly suspicious of you currently.
[4:43:51 PM] Otso Syrjänen: K
[4:44:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: That can easily be proven
[4:44:20 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What can?
[4:44:31 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Me receiving claims.
[4:44:57 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Screenshot the PM and cross out the name then.
[4:45:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I'll just tell the people to say publicly they claimed to me.
[4:45:08 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Or that.
[4:45:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: lol
[4:45:25 PM] Otso Syrjänen: XD
[4:45:37 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Wait, no, that's dumb.
[4:46:03 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Because since ostensibly the Seer claimed to you, he/she would be one of the claimers.
[4:47:24 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Hmmm
[4:47:27 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: wait
[4:47:33 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You asked people to claim to you in the thread.
[4:47:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And now everything makes sense.
[4:47:51 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what
[4:48:21 PM] Otso Syrjänen: How does something suddenly make sense lol
[4:49:21 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: wait, omg
[4:49:30 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: ive made so much sense of stuff
[4:49:32 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: thx fsm
[4:49:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what
[4:49:40 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: TIME FOR A BIG POST.
[4:49:57 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what are you doing
[4:50:19 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'm about to out some Wolves.
[4:50:23 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You included.
[4:53:49 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: btw I see you sending that message.
[4:54:26 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Ya it's about telling people to claim publicly
[4:54:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: stalker!!!!
[4:54:48 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Screencap it.
[4:54:54 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[4:54:55 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Or better yet, copy and paste it.
[4:55:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[4:55:03 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What you have so far.
[4:55:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And give it to me on Skype.
[4:55:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I just started lol
[4:55:46 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I'm listening Black and White soundtrack on Youtube
[4:56:01 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I haven't written anything yet
[4:56:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: but I will now!
[4:56:35 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste the Youtube link.
[4:56:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Right now.
[4:56:43 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: 5 seconds!!!
[4:56:51 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[4:56:54 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: TIME'S UP.
[4:57:00 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You're caught, FSM-Reapr!
[4:57:23 PM] Otso Syrjänen: www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WxgaDW6LUY
[4:57:29 PM] Otso Syrjänen: there lol
[4:57:45 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: idk
[4:57:54 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Should it really take so long for you to copy and paste a simple link?
[4:57:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: In no way I could have got to Youtube and search that song
[4:58:06 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Yes, you could have!
[4:58:18 PM] Otso Syrjänen: -___-
[4:58:48 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Hmm, wait.
[4:58:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: what
[4:59:23 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Checking something.
[4:59:27 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k
[5:00:31 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: How did you find that video?
[5:00:49 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I mean, how did you find it in the first place?
[5:02:17 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Sending another message???
[5:02:35 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste it!!!
[5:03:31 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: FSM-Reapr!!!
[5:06:55 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Are you there nowww?
[5:12:28 PM] Otso Syrjänen: WOW
[5:12:33 PM] Otso Syrjänen: INSANE LAG
[5:12:44 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[5:12:51 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You should copy and paste the message now then!
[5:13:02 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I hate that little ball
[5:13:19 PM] Otso Syrjänen: JESUS
[5:13:36 PM] Otso Syrjänen: MY FIREFOX IS LAGGING BIG TIME
[5:14:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Okay.
[5:14:30 PM] Otso Syrjänen: wait
[5:14:32 PM] Otso Syrjänen: brb
[5:14:37 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste it before you go.
[5:14:40 PM] Otso Syrjänen: laptopoverheating
[5:15:04 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I can't copypasta anything on firefox
[5:15:16 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Yes, you can. :/
[5:15:23 PM] Otso Syrjänen: There is this circle of death
[5:15:25 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Copy and paste has nothing to do with browser.
[5:15:30 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: o
[5:15:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: No, there is this circle that doesn't allow you to click on anything
[5:16:04 PM] Otso Syrjänen: brb
[5:16:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: overheating
[5:19:57 PM] Otso Syrjänen: backk
[5:20:09 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Hi.

I would like you to tell publicly that you claimed to me. Don't tell what you claimed, just that you claimed.
[5:20:28 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: It took your computer 3 minutes to stop overheating.
[5:20:29 PM] Otso Syrjänen: sent to Waddle Bro, sending it to other people too
[5:20:33 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Ya
[5:20:38 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And also took you 3 minutes to write that?
[5:20:52 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: You wouldn't even have needed to copy and paste it, you could have typed it out.
[5:21:18 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Why did you single out Waddle Bro?
[5:21:53 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I'm sending it to other people also, but laptop started being a pain in the ass.
[5:23:27 PM] Otso Syrjänen: and wb is my wuff partner duh
[5:23:39 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: :O
[5:23:57 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'm not so sure to believe that.
[5:24:07 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Sounds like you're placing a red herring since I'm accusing you!
[5:26:11 PM] Otso Syrjänen: Actually, I think I'm pretty safe.

[close]

Bolded parts are most important.  I initially didn't believe that FSM-Reapr was receiving any claims because I didn't realise people said in the topic that people should claim to him, so we argued about that for a while in the middle.

I became immediately suspicious of FSM-Reapr when he asked me specifically if I trusted him and would claim to him.  Reason being as I mentioned; I suspected that I was seered Blue and he wanted to verify whether I was an actual Special or the Herring.  He couldn't have seered me with the Seering AI (Delta) because he claimed to have used Gamma to end the Phase.  Which means that if any seering occurred, it would be because he's a Wolf!

Afterwards, I caught him sending a PM again (FSM-Reapr    04:51:49 PM    Sending a message.) and when I questioned why, he stated that it was about making people claim publicly.  Even though I clearly stated that doing so under the presumption that all the claims were legitimate would root out Players for possibly being the Seer (which is false, as I'm the Seer!).  blueflower999 and WaddleBro, what was the exact time you received the PM?  And what did the PM say exactly?
(I asked blueflower999 on Skype and he's said:

Spoiler

[6:04:41 PM] Blueflower999: Looks like 5:24 PM
[6:04:45 PM] Blueflower999: Our time
[6:04:46 PM] Blueflower999: I think
[6:04:51 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: What about seconds?
[6:04:56 PM] Blueflower999: 12
[6:05:02 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Okay, thanks.

I left because my mother called me downstairs and when I returned:

[6:47:54 PM] Blueflower999: I'll talk about this later
[6:48:01 PM] Blueflower999: I have to go see a play my sister is preforming in!
[6:48:05 PM] Blueflower999: : D
[6:48:11 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Could you copy and paste it quickly?
[6:48:18 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That's all I'm asking for.
[6:48:27 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: And enjoy your sister's performance!
[6:48:29 PM] Blueflower999: Fine
[6:48:30 PM] Blueflower999: But just for you
[6:48:31 PM] Blueflower999: Hi.

I would like you to tell publicly that you claimed to me. Don't tell what you claimed, just that you claimed.
[6:48:37 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Thanks.
[6:48:43 PM] Blueflower999: Bye!
[6:48:47 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Byeee.
[6:48:56 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Tell her I said she was super ultra coll!

[close]

So FSM-Reapr's claim of sending it was legitimate, but the timing is waaay off.

Anyhow, when I asked him to copy and paste the message, he said he didn't start it yet (something which may be legitimate, I'm not so sure).  He claimed to have been listening to Youtube Pokemon music at the time.  When asked to copy and paste it, it took him about 48 seconds to do so (between when I told him to and when he actually did).  He claims also that there was no way to have gone to Youtube to search that piece, which implies that he must have had that link opened still when I asked him to copy and paste it.  Furthermore, try it out yourself; it takes no more than 5 seconds to copy and paste a link somewhere.  Even with lag, it would take much less than 48 seconds (and even if FSM-Reapr wasn't lagging at the time, he didn't use it as an excuse at the time, so I highly doubt that he was lagging, as he would have mentioned it if he were).  Using my sneaky tactics, I discovered that he was subscribed to the creator of the video:

Spoiler

[6:38:14 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: hey fsm
[6:38:24 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I didn't mention it before, but
[6:38:29 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: That Pokemon piece is A+++.
[6:38:30 PM] Otso Syrjänen: ya
[6:38:40 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: lol
[6:38:44 PM] Otso Syrjänen: I know right
[6:38:57 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Jazz is super coll.
[6:39:11 PM] Otso Syrjänen: correct
[6:39:17 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood:
[6:39:28 PM] Otso Syrjänen:
[6:39:57 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Also, circle nine is best number.
[6:40:17 PM] Otso Syrjänen: correct again
[6:40:48 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: should i subscribe to this person
[6:40:58 PM] Otso Syrjänen: idk
[6:41:09 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: are you subscribed to this person
[6:41:16 PM] Otso Syrjänen: ya
[6:41:26 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: I'll subscribe then!!!
[6:41:38 PM] Otso Syrjänen: icy wat u did thar
[6:41:48 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood:
[6:41:50 PM] Otso Syrjänen:
[6:42:28 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: dun
[6:42:42 PM] Otso Syrjänen: wat
[6:42:50 PM] Little Red Mashi Hood: Subscribing.
[6:42:56 PM] Otso Syrjänen: k

[close]

As the video was new, I'm suspecting that he went to Youtube and probably clicked the first video on his homepage feed.

Anyhow, he started sending another message (FSM-Reapr    04:59:42 PM    Sending a message.) and when I asked him to inform me of its comments about 3 minutes later, he complained of lag (first time I've heard of it happening.  Waddle Bro, can you confirm whether that happens consistently?).  What perfect timing!  Anyhow, he stated that his laptop was overheating (more perfect timing!) and stated that he would brb.  Yet he returned 3 minutes later.  I don't know about other laptops, but from what I know about mine (because we all know I apparently have the worst laptop and computers ever!!!), it does not take 3 minutes whatsoever for a laptop to stop overheating.  And when a laptop is put on rest, sleep, or shut down, Skype is logged out of (or at least, that's what happens to mine); but FSM-Reapr was online Skype the whole time!

Anyhow, he claimed to have sent the messages to Waddle Bro (specifically) and others.  I think he wanted to place a red herring on him, as I mentioned in the log, but I'm not too sure; it's just speculation.

Obviously I was lying. I can't believe if someone actually believed that BS I came up with.
I was actually sending a PM to my buddy vermverm.

log
Sorry for the quality, idk how you post Skype logs
I think we could use this to our advantage. I'll tell people who have claimed to me to post publicly that they claimed to me and Mashi will assume one of them is the seer. He'll most likely assume blueflower's the seer since he was the only one he saw online.

I'm very suspicious of him right now.

Another PM!!!

Log continues.
I was writing that PM to you. I didn't want Mashi to know anything that I was sending a PM to you.

And there is your evidence. These PMs prove why I was lying. If I would have told Mashi about these PMs, that would have completely ruined the purpose of the plan. But I'm sure he knew Mr T. was the seer so this utterly failed.

I think this answers to all of your accusations well.

I'll make the post where I blame Mashi for not being the Meta soon. I need a break, lol.

[FSM-Reapr]

*being the Meta soon.

THIS JUST PROVES I NEED A BREAK