Politics

[K-NiGhT]

soooo bump

we're already in deep doodoo .-. who could've seen this coming?

[WaluigiTime64]

I almost feel bad.

[AwesomeYears]

So how many of you Americans don't like Trump but didn't vote? America needs to imply the forced voting seriously, like in good old Australia we still manage to fuck it up though

[SlowPokemon]

Well it's not that simple. More people voted for Hillary Clinton than for Donald Trump, but because of the way the Electoral College works, Trump ended up becoming president.

[MaestroUGC]

It's barely been a week and he's already censored various science administrations, threatened national funding for the arts, begun efforts to repeal the Affordable Healthcare Act, already backtracked on funding for his wall, signed orders to continue the Dakota Pipeline and Keystone Pipeline, and cut funding for sanctuary cities as well as other efforts to undo previous immigration reforms.

[mikey]

repealing obamacare isn't necessarily a bad thing

[SlowPokemon]

It's not so much repealing Obamacare that's the problem as it is repealing Obamacare without a replacement plan

Like loooooots of people will lose health care thanks to this

[Maelstrom]

It's not so much repealing Obamacare that's the problem as it is repealing Obamacare without a replacement plan

Like loooooots of people will lose health care thanks to this

This. Obamacare, without a doubt, has flaws, but those flaws actually could be fixed. Instead of, you know, throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

[Tobbeh99]

I'm not sure if this is true. But it is possible that I am seeing the effects that he is willing to cut trade deals/relations. There seems to be some change in my company, DHL, and it is very possible that it is because the direction he wants to push USA towards. And if that is the case, then I think the relation between Europe and America will see a decrease, and an increase in customs fees if you want to ship products from those 2 continents, so in all and all - a big change.

Btw I don't live in the US, so I can't really have that much of an opinion of great value - in this topic. But maybe "the wall" is a solution with the idea being that there will be a wall, so that the both countries, USA and Mexico, will have to focus on their own interests, economy, market, policies etc. And that only a few, who really really and the will-force and the longing, can get over the border. As he says it that "there will be a beautiful door for those who are willing to live as legal Americans" (or something along those lines). So that only who really care can get past the border, the other people will instead have to focus on their nation's interests.

I'm pretty sure this will have effect not only in America, but also in the whole world. I'm seeing, here in Sweden, that there seem to be an interest for the Swedish culture and heritage and etc. Which previously was a divisive factor in the Swedish politics as there was the "infamous party" "SD (Sweden Democrats)", who, sort of militantly, advocated for "everything-that-has-with-Swedishness-to-do" to a point where it was just dumb and absurd and just plain retarded (Like how their Party Leader, Jimmy Åkeson, said that "Kebab is Swedish - because the kebab here in Sweden is different from the kebab they make in Turkey and the middle-east".). So I thinking that the effect will be that SD will lose votes, because they basically can't go any higher. It's just stupid, and it doesn't work. And I think that the rivalry between Socialism and Capitalism (Social-democrats and Moderates (or more like "The Alliance" - being the alliance of the 4 capitalistic parties)) will come back in a fresh and new form. And I think that the dynamic that there has been a lack of in Swedish politics will increase and become stronger and bigger. Because we've had a Prime Minister from the Socialistic party, Social-democrats, who hasn't been able to have the power to effect the Swedish policies, because SD has acted as road block, because of their high support of voters (like 16%). So I think that SD will lose votes and that the other 7 parties will come out and show and profile their parties' policies in order to get core voters (back). And September 2018 will be the new Swedish election. And I think it'll be an exciting year when it comes to politics and an exciting election, because the Swedish politics seemed to have "sleeping" a bit too much, and I think people have great dislike for that and will start to "voice their opinions" more clearly and openly and also, lastly, I think that they will have less interest in nationalism, which SD has advocated for. 

[Altissimo]

nationalism is cancer

[Tobbeh99]

I personally don't think it's that bad. But I think there has to an openness and a sense of acceptance if your going to have that as the policy you believe in. And I think a moderate amount of nationalism is sort of healthy. It makes you feel like your nation and your people are as one as that you are at home and that you are safe. And it can also inspire you through various topics such as history, art, various important persons and etc. And i also think it can make you feel more acceptance for other people in the world because of the idea that you, as a people, have a culture and other people, in other countries, have a different culture. And that relation can make you get an interest for other people rather than seeing them (and you!) as bland and boring and having nothing unique. But I think it should taken "with a bit of salt" and not as a provocative movement and opinion. 

[mikey]

nationalism is a buzzword used to describe a "dangerous" feeling of patriotism.  Textbook example is the Nazis, the majority of whom did what they were told to avoid jail, not out of any kind of national pride.  America is a very unique country and as much as people hate to say it the world very much does revolve around US. 
But yeah the end times are near the world will soon be cleansed in fire etc.

Most of the border is already walled.  More dangerous are the vigilantes on either side of the border

[WaluigiTime64]

America is a very unique country

You can say that again.

as much as people hate to say it the world very much does revolve around US.

Well, that depends on each country, and how they connect with other countries, which connect with both each other and more countries. You could say some countries have just as much importance as the US, in certain countries.

Nevertheless, America's power is still concerning, especially when their AMAZING politics decides what it does. Which is essentially all of the time, like any other democracy.

To be honest I don't actually care what Trump does until a war happens on Australian land. Only then will I get annoyed.

[FireArrow]

repealing obamacare isn't necessarily a bad thing

If trumps admininstration is doing one thing well it's this. From what I've seen they aren't just dropping obamacare cold turkey but doing a good job keeping people insured while they switch to whatever their conservative health care thingy is.

You can say that again.
Well, that depends on each country, and how they connect with other countries, which connect with both each other and more countries. You could say some countries have just as much importance as the US, in certain countries.

Nevertheless, America's power is still concerning, especially when their AMAZING politics decides what it does. Which is essentially all of the time, like any other democracy.

To be honest I don't actually care what Trump does until a war happens on Australian land. Only then will I get annoyed.

Well if he starts seriously harming the well being of others, Australian or not, you should be concerned. If you're using the "as long soldiers aren't marching on our soil I'm cool" rhetoric then you're guilt of what Americans are always shamed for.

[Tobbeh99]

Noc your just talking bullshit. My country, I got a feeling of is just loosing it's structure. And that's a big problem, because you know... there might be a big civil war if that happens. Or there might be one of those bad society where everyone talks about their sex life and stuff openly but is extremely secretive about what party they vote for. I think there is even A LAW that says that if you say what party you voted for OPENLY to another person, then that is an illegal action which is to be punished with the highest punishment that is available! And that is pretty scary tbh!

And I think that the problem with today's society is that because we live in a world with so much peace. That the problem is that we actually don't have any war (and very sadly). Because if humanity isn't angry, then it's nice. And if humans are nice to each other, then that means that the 3rd person, aka nature, will be angry at us! And that's a big problem. Because then you'll see animals and plants getting angry and aggressive. And in fact you're already seeing this. Seagulls are paining the British people. And I have great fear what is going to happen in Sweden. Like are the creatures from old legends actually become real!? Like that monster in the lake up there. Or like the Trolls in forest!! WTF! I'm angry!!!!!! I believe that there will be a great fire (like in Canada) that will take years to exhaust!! Our forest will basically burn