Politics

[Dude]

So I have been recently informed that I have been rude to blueflower so I will be posting reasons for my posts that, as Olimar says, an "anonymous user", has said were "rude".

Do you like hearing yourself talk or what's the deal?

Blue has been posting practically every other time and knows not many people here agree with him so I wasn't sure if he's just posting to start shit or what.

I've also seen you call people imbeciles behind their back

This is in reference to FSM's private chat with him during the Fire Emblem homophobia incident that he posted in a skype room that we have with a couple of NSM members.

The log

[6/26/2015 12:22:04 AM] (FSM):  [26/06/15 07:03:40] zbluflowah: okay i realize that i'm a few years younger than you and from your perspective i'm probably an idiot
[26/06/15 07:03:40] zbluflowah: but can you please at least try to be nice
[26/06/15 07:04:06] (FSM): you're the one who won't apologize
[26/06/15 07:04:20] (FSM): it wasn't nice
[26/06/15 07:05:55] zbluflowah: I apologized to you, didn't I?
[26/06/15 07:06:06] zbluflowah: I'm not making any more posts in that thread because they'll just further entrench me
[26/06/15 07:06:46] (FSM): I promise no one will say anything bad if you apologize
[26/06/15 07:07:21] zbluflowah: Oh, I promise they will
[26/06/15 07:07:27] zbluflowah: I'll consider apologizing anyway though I suppose
[26/06/15 07:07:31] (FSM): also I never heard an apology
[26/06/15 07:08:04] zbluflowah: Ugh why is this so annoyingly complicated
[26/06/15 07:08:21] (FSM): On 26/06/15, at 07:05, zbluflowah wrote:
> I apologized to you, didn't I?

On 26/06/15, at 07:07, (FSM) wrote:
> also I never heard an apology

wouldn't call this complicated
[26/06/15 07:08:42] zbluflowah: I'm trying to figure out what precisely I'm being accused of before I apologize for it
[26/06/15 07:09:05] zbluflowah: If it had to do with the difference between "giving birth" and "having kids" then yeah sure I'll apologize for that
[26/06/15 07:13:48] (FSM): You made it clear to others how because homosexual couples can't have biological kids(that belong both of them), it's worse than if you had a straight couple and thus children between them
[26/06/15 07:14:22] zbluflowah: From a gameplay perspective that's correct
[26/06/15 07:14:27] (FSM): meaning it's homophobic, because you don't see them as equals, even though same-sex couples can get kids in other ways
[26/06/15 07:14:43] zbluflowah: We were talking about Fire Emblem
[26/06/15 07:14:50] zbluflowah: I didn't say a single thing about actual homosexuals
[26/06/15 07:16:10] (FSM): It's still homophobic even if it's in a game
[26/06/15 07:16:52] zbluflowah: So if I don't use the Demolition Man in Team Fortress 2, that means I hate black people too?
[26/06/15 07:18:20] (FSM): If you don't use him because of his colour, it is racist
[26/06/15 07:18:41] zbluflowah: Sure, that's fine
[26/06/15 07:18:56] zbluflowah: But by that same logic I didn't say anything about homosexuality itself
[26/06/15 07:19:18] zbluflowah: Having kids in Fire Emblem is significantly beneficial to succeeding in the game, and therefore is the best course of action
[26/06/15 07:20:26] (FSM): you're homophobic if you see same-sex relationships as non-equal to straight ones
[26/06/15 07:21:03] zbluflowah: Then I guess by your definition I'm homophobic when I play Fire Emblem lol
[26/06/15 07:21:38] (FSM): Nah, that definition just means you're homophobic
[6/26/2015 12:24:32 AM] (FSM): [26/06/15 07:21:48] zbluflowah: Stop telling me what I am
[26/06/15 07:22:36] zbluflowah: I don't know if I feel the need to defend myself here or not because these accusations are absurd
[26/06/15 07:24:06] (FSM): On 26/06/15, at 07:19, zbluflowah wrote:
> Having kids in Fire Emblem is significantly beneficial to succeeding in the game, and therefore is the best course of action

But same-sex couples can have kids in other ways than sex
[26/06/15 07:24:15] (FSM): so all of your arguments seem invalid
[6/26/2015 12:28:02 AM] (FSM): [26/06/15 07:27:19] zbluflowah: I mean I guess that might be my opinion but still
[6/26/2015 12:31:40 AM] Ruto: oh god someone let him remove himself from the gene pool if he's so concerned
[6/26/2015 12:34:27 AM] (FSM): [26/06/15 07:32:47] zbluflowah: But what do I apologize for
[26/06/15 07:33:03] (FSM): For any malaise you might have caused
[26/06/15 07:33:06] zbluflowah: Being inconsiderate in my wording?
[26/06/15 07:33:31] zbluflowah: If I say that Kefka and/or Dude will post something hurtful again in reply XD
[26/06/15 07:33:37] (FSM): They won't
[26/06/15 07:34:09] (FSM): they're mature enough
[26/06/15 07:34:15] zbluflowah: Dude and Kefka are both imbeciles
[6/26/2015 12:34:40 AM] (FSM): [26/06/15 07:34:15] zbluflowah: Dude and Kefka are both imbeciles
[26/06/15 07:34:28] zbluflowah: You know what, fine I'll make an apology so vague that they can't pick it apart XD

[close]

So please, stop complaining about me as I'm not the only one who is a terrible person

[FireArrow]

So this is the incriminate blueflower thread now? Yes, he can get overly defensive and overreact to people disagreeing with him, however, the extent that this has been taken to is absurd. I've given up any hope I've had in NSM being able to discuss things civilly. Peace, I'm done with these topics.

[Sebastian]

I've given up any hope I've had in NSM being able to discuss things civilly. Peace, I'm done with these topics.

[Dude]

[blueflower999]

Alright, I apologize. We had that conversation somewhere between 1 and 2 in the morning, I was angry, tired, and felt betrayed by numerous people at the time that I thought were my friends.

Dude I disagree with you on a lot of things, but I don't think you're an imbecile. I said it in the heat of the moment and I'm sorry.

[Pianist Da Sootopolis]

Honestly an imbecile is hardly the worst thing to call a person.

[Altissimo]

[quote that went missing]

You weren't even involved in the debate!

[TheInsidiousSpurt]

Imbecile isn't bad at all. At least u didn't say faggot. I bet you would have a whole army on ur ass Lol

[mikey]

Imbecile isn't bad at all. At least u didn't say faggot. I bet you would have a whole army on ur ass Lol

bloo doesn't say naughty words like that

[SlowPokemon]

Imbecile isn't bad at all. At least u didn't say faggot. I bet you would have a whole army on ur ass Lol

Next time you feel like posting something this stupid, don't

[TheInsidiousSpurt]

I never called anyone a faggot. Sorry if you guys got the wrong idea

[KefkaticFanatic]

He's fairly moderate on the issue, and honestly (though I don't disagree w/you) your stance is quite radical in this political climate on guns (throwing out the second amendment and making guns illegal).

Of course, I don't honestly think that would happen for a few generations at minimum, but I find his record to be highly flakey.

Anyway Hillary rekt that debate

[Bubbles]

Can nsm just take a month break from sensitive topics or whatever? I know everyone's prided on their freedom of speech and their power to maturely discuss their views, but we've proven over and over again that that's just not going to happen

I'm really tired of everyone I like fighting all the time

[InsigTurtle]

so uh can y'all stop jibber jabbering about the severity of various curse words and the personal attacks and shtuff? it'd be rather appreciated.

so, just a couple of unrelated thoughts.

in the fantasy world that some call canada, we have a federal election coming up super soon. keep in mind that canada's existence is still unverified.
where i live, there's a pretty high chinese population. and recently, there was an advertisement in chinese and punjabi that the conservative party sponsored that made statements such as "the liberal party wants to make marijuana easy to get for kids". and i'm just wondering why they would try to stoop down to the level of using scare tactics instead of actually making legitimate arguments.

the news comments on pretty much any article say "stop harper" or "it's harper's fault" now. i honestly can't tell if they're joking or if they are being serious. the overwhelming anti-conservative sentiment pretty much everywhere i go is rather annoying. i can't go anywhere without seeing a stop sign vandalized to say "stop harper". i mean, sure. i don't quite agree with some of their policies, either. but this is just getting insane. it doesn't help that i live in probably the most liberal and left-leaning part of canada... whose liberal party is conservative and whose conservative party is pretty much irrelevant. why do we even have a premier with an approval rating of 30%. why, bc.

i'm stuck in canada during the election season. please send help.

ninja'd but i don't really care.

[mikey]

I think I've heard of canada before, but I didn't know it had a government.