Politics

[mikey]

pretty sure he proved god existed then he disproved it the exact same way or something weird like that

[FireArrow]

pretty sure he proved god existed then he disproved it the exact same way or something weird like that

..?

[MaestroUGC]

I think he's referring to a quote he made a long time ago regarding a very early theory of his regarding black holes. It was partly made in jest, if I'm remembering the context correctly.

[Dude]

I'm confused about the second amendment.

It says "the right to bare arms" so does that mean just firearms or weapons in general?

[Yugi]

I suggest that we put this thread in Forum Games where it rightfully belongs.

[mikey]

I'm confused about the second amendment.

It says "the right to bare arms" so does that mean just firearms or weapons in general?

obviously the meaning is pretty ambiguous given the extent of weaponry back then but I'd assume it meant any way to feasibly defend yourself
aka frying pans

[SlowPokemon]

I thought it meant wearing tank tops

[Pianist Da Sootopolis]

Keep in mind, that statement is prefaced with "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state".
In the late 18th century, automatic weapons weren't a thing; it was flintlock technology.
So, should this make assault weapons legal?
Well, no constitutional right is absolute- the first amendment prohibits slanderous/defamatory speech, prohibits rallies that endanger public safety, etc. The 5th amendment, while you have the right to avoid self incrimination, you can still be legally forced to take a breathalyzer test. So, whether assault weapons are constitutionally ban-able is up for debate.
IMO the right to self defense shouldn't include tools that more often than not injures others before used for self defense.

[blueflower999]

I picked a good time to go on a school retreat.

[mikey]

Keep in mind, that statement is prefaced with "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state".
In the late 18th century, automatic weapons weren't a thing; it was flintlock technology.
So, should this make assault weapons legal?
Well, no constitutional right is absolute- the first amendment prohibits slanderous/defamatory speech, prohibits rallies that endanger public safety, etc. The 5th amendment, while you have the right to avoid self incrimination, you can still be legally forced to take a breathalyzer test. So, whether assault weapons are constitutionally ban-able is up for debate.
IMO the right to self defense shouldn't include tools that more often than not injures others before used for self defense.

or people who sell guns can actually check who they're selling them to

[FireArrow]

You don't need a criminal record to murder someone.

[Pianist Da Sootopolis]

IMO If you're going to get a gun permit it should be like driving a car- you need to be well trained in proper maintenance and safety and how to use it correctly. I see no reason why that is unconstitutional; I see an infinite amount of why it's a responsible decision.

[mikey]

You don't need a criminal record to murder someone.

no, you need a mental ilness record

[FireArrow]

no, you need a mental ilness record

Step 1. Don't go to a psychologist.
Step 2. Get a gun.

I suppose a mandatory psychiatric exam before buying a gun would be a decent idea. It doesn't help situations where people get messed up after owning a gun for 5 years (annual examinations to renew your license?)

[TheInsidiousSpurt]

I really hate the whole gun control law thing. It would be nice for each family to own a gun for safety reasons but people are dumb and abuse that right.