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Started by Bubbles, August 25, 2012, 09:24:34 PM

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Shadoninja

Quote from: Bespinben on August 25, 2012, 10:52:06 PMAfter the document is created, you cannot change the time signature in Notepad, but that doesn't matter anyway since you're switching to 12/8. With that change of time signature, you'd have to rewrite from scratch in ANY version of Finale, because you have to multiply all your rhythms by a factor of 1.5.
Or you could use something like FLStudio to stretch and realign the midi data like I have:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/36661985/Pokemon%20Colosseum%20-%20Es%20Cade%27s%20Theme.mus
"And so my saga of quoting myself in everyone's signature continues" - dudeman

Bubbles

AHHH Thanks so much :D That saved me alot of time

Bubbles

So I don't end up doing this again, how can I tell the time signature of a song before I write out the entire thing?

Bespinben

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on August 25, 2012, 11:00:38 PMOh, ok. So you change the time signature in the beginning? And you said that all the rhythms get multiplied by 1.5.... Does that mean that a quarter note would become a dotted quarter note?

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on August 25, 2012, 11:08:11 PMSo I don't end up doing this again, how can I tell the time signature of a song before I write out the entire thing?

Research "compound time signature". It'll help you alot.

Quarter notes would become dotted quarter notes, yes, but it is because the beat no longer is 1 quarter note, rather the beat is changed to 1 dotted quarter note. Think math - 12/8 is equal to 4 time 3/8. In music, 3/8 means 3 eighth notes, but 3 eighth notes form a dotted quarter. Therefore, 12/8 is 4 dotted quarter notes, each dotted quarter note consisting of 3 eighths, or subdivisions, thereby eliminating triplets that would be in the music if it were written in 4/4.
Quote from: Nebbles on July 04, 2015, 12:05:12 PM
Someone beat Bespinben to making PMD music?! GASP!

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Shadoninja

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on August 25, 2012, 11:08:11 PMSo I don't end up doing this again, how can I tell the time signature of a song before I write out the entire thing?
First, listen to the beat. That will help with figuring out how many beats are in a measure. The bass is usually easiest for identifying the beats.
If there are a lot of triplets and if the piece sounds "swung" but doesn't sound jazzy, it's most likely in some kind of /8 time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoWkiOGGH94
If the piece sounds "swung" and sounds jazzy, it's most likely in /4 time with swing eighths. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLmGVlAVUzM


"And so my saga of quoting myself in everyone's signature continues" - dudeman

Bubbles

Ok, I think I get post of it, or at least enough to blame myself if I mess up again

I forgot how much I loved that Pokemon song  :D

Winter

I think jazzy is just a fancy term for 12/8 :P

Swing works too, but only for more lenience on the timing of the swing beat, I suppose.

Bubbles

More of a simpler term for people who don't understand music but have ears.

Shadoninja

Quote from: Winter on August 25, 2012, 11:51:04 PMI think jazzy is just a fancy term for 12/8 :P

Swing works too, but only for more lenience on the timing of the swing beat, I suppose.
Jazzy is a very abstract term that's hard to really describe.
"And so my saga of quoting myself in everyone's signature continues" - dudeman

JDMEK5

I saw this written on the sidewalk when I went to music camp.

Quote"If you need someone to explain what jazz is, you'll never know.

(Or, something along those lines)
"Today's goal strongly involves not dying. Because nobody likes to wake up dead."

My Arrangements
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FSM-Reapr

"If you need someone to explain what is jazz, you will never know."

Old saying.

Bubbles

#26
Ok, then what about this song? I picked it because it seemed far from swinging notes or any jazzy tune, but the ending is still half a beat too long  :-\

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/96664701/Ending%20A%20%28Pokemon%20Colosseum%29.mus

Oops. Forgot the actual song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btjL1Gr0U8U

Bespinben

Quote from: Bubbles7689 on August 26, 2012, 05:30:04 PMOk, then what about this song? I picked it because it seemed far from swinging notes or any jazzy tune, but the ending is still half a beat too long  :-\

The song is in 3/4, not 4/4. The guitar part plays consecutive eighth notes.
Quote from: Nebbles on July 04, 2015, 12:05:12 PM
Someone beat Bespinben to making PMD music?! GASP!

MLF for Chatroom Mod next Tuesday

Bubbles

Ugh I knew it was something like that. I can tell the difference between simple and complex time signatures, but what about the individual time signatures themselves?

Uraziel

couldnt you also put that in 6/8?