TWG XXXIII: Beat Those Eggs Jimmy!

[vermilionvermin]

Welp.  I missed my own 8:00 EST chat thing, and now it seems that everyone's gone.

I'll vote Maestro for now because I don't have any other leads at the moment.  I'll reconsider when I get back about 30 minutes before phase end.

[SuperFireKirby]

We're all here chatting it up bro!

[the_last_sheikah]

VERM DONT LEAVE! WE NEED SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT!

[blueflower999]

SFK   Actually there's a greater chance that Mashi is human and Seer B is a wolf
21:08   Kman96   Wtf?
21:08   SFK   Due to how the seerings went
21:09   Blueflower999   Why Mashi...?
21:09   SFK   NOT MASHI
21:09   Kman96   Mashi isn't playing.
21:09   SFK   Maestro
21:09   Blueflower999   XD
21:09   Kman96   Hahahahaha lol
21:09   SFK   BECAUSE MASHI IS ALWAYS WOLF
21:09   Blueflower999   EXACTLY

Totally made my day. 

[SuperFireKirby]

After discussion, I believe Maestro is most likely human. So I'm going to vote for Slow because of his inactivity, and the lack of any other proper wolf candidates.

[the_last_sheikah]

      
20:18      *** sheikah joined #TWG
20:19   SFK   hiyas
20:19   Kman96   Ok, that's better.
20:19   sheikah   rather
20:19   SFK   so Sheikah
20:19   SFK   y u such a wolf?
20:19   Kman96   So...what are we discussing?
20:20   sheikah   SFK, y u so bull crap?
20:20   SFK   because it tastes SO DELICIOUS
20:20   Kman96   Idk who to trust at all...I haven't been paying very much attention, so I really, don't know what to say
20:20   SFK   but anyways....
20:21   SFK   sheikah, what are your thoughts on the Maestro situation?
20:21   SFK   since kman is apparently being a slacker
20:21   sheikah   hmmm, one sec
20:21   Kman96   So my somewhat understanding of THAT, maestro is this 'person c' ? is that right?
20:22   SFK   yes
20:22   Kman96   Uh ok.
20:22   Kman96   So...then.
20:22   sheikah   well heres what i think
20:22   Kman96   How does that fit in with the seers?
20:23   sheikah   maestro has said next to nothing this game
20:23   Kman96   This is true.
20:23   sheikah   so we need to hear what he has to say to tell any amount of truth
20:23   sheikah   but
20:24   sheikah   if he says nothing by 30 mins till end of phase, im voting him off the island
20:24   Kman96   Ok. That's sounds like a good plan.
20:26   SFK   On the whole Maestro thing, I'm still kinda iffy
20:26   SFK   it's partially because of my original disposition as being for Seer A being the real seer
20:27   sheikah   care to reiterate said disposition?
20:27   SFK   but also because Maestro encouraged Verm to reveal the name
20:28   SFK   he would probably know which one of the seers was real, and therefore know person C was a wolf
20:28   Kman96   SFK what do you mean? I am completely baffled.
20:28   SFK   from my stand point, it's not too smart to go ahead and put one of your own wolves in the spotlight
20:28   sheikah   well he wouldnt have know who person C was cause verm didnt tell anyone, hence my post about irony
20:28   Kman96   Are you suggesting seer a and maestro are wolves?
20:29   sheikah   idk, im just spitballing right now
20:29   SFK   ...no I'm not
20:29   Kman96   I think thats all we can do- spitballing.
20:29   SFK   I'm saying that Maestro probably wouldn't have encouraged person C to be revealed if he knew they were a wolf
20:30   sheikah   true...
20:30   SFK   ..and he was a wolf as well
20:30   Kman96   Oh, I kinda get it now...that makes sense.
20:30   sheikah   i still want to hear what he has to say
20:31   SFK   me too
20:31   Kman96   Well we can never tell about maestro.
20:31   SFK   because without him clearing things up(or slipping up), all we can do is speculate
20:31   Kman96   Same with slow. What's up with him?!?
20:31   SFK   hasn't posted the whole game
20:32   Kman96   I know!! What's his deal?
20:32   SFK   wouldn't worry too much about an inactive tho
20:32   SFK   forgot/busy/lack of care
20:32   sheikah   yeah
20:32   Kman96   I chatted with verm yesterday and he suggested we lynch him due to inactivity...
20:33   Kman96   But what if he's pulling a dude?
20:33   sheikah   always a possibility
20:33   Kman96   Dude has been inactive for a large portion of the game, and then we found out he was pm-ing the whole game...
20:33   Kman96   Was*
20:33   Kman96   This was a previous game.
20:33   SFK   yeah, slow will probably get my vote  if I don't get sold on this Maestro thing one way of the other
20:34   Kman96   Better than nothing.
20:34   Kman96   Sheikah, what you say?
20:34   Kman96   I just don't know about this phase...
20:34   sheikah   the logic is sound
20:34   SFK   this game has had kinda a meh start
20:34   SFK   better than some games tho
20:35   sheikah   I concur
20:35   Kman96   I'm just bur glad I wasnt wolfed the first night.
20:35   Kman96   That SUCKED last game
20:36   sheikah   eh, happens to the best of us
20:36   sheikah   verm more than others mostly
20:36   Kman96   Oh, and someone needs to post this in the thread, because I cannot.
20:36   sheikah   ill do it
20:36   Kman96   Haha, yeah, Verm, that was always hilarious.
20:36   Kman96   That was like 3 or 4 games in a row.
20:37   Kman96   But anyways, back on topic...
20:38   sheikah   yeah, but i dont think hell be attemptedly wolfed at all this game
20:38   Kman96   They can't, can they?
20:39   sheikah   they can, but it takes two shots
20:39   SFK   it's possible
20:39   SFK   if the wolves a daring/stupid enough
20:40   sheikah   the only way I see it as efficient is if verm votes last to lynch the brutal wolf
20:40   Kman96   The wolves can't wolf Verm because of the guardian, right? Nobody except Verm knows who the guardian is, so yeah, it'd be dumb for them.
20:40   sheikah   that too
20:41   Kman96   So Verm is like invincible right now? Thats pretty impressive, haha.
20:41   Kman96   Good thing he's with us humans, otherwise we'd be screwwwwwed.
20:42   sheikah   almost poetic with all of his first night wolfings before
20:42   Kman96   Haha that's true too!
20:43   Kman96   Is there anything more to discuss?
20:44   SFK   not unless maestro shows up
20:44   SFK   or verm
20:44   sheikah   or verm
20:44   sheikah   damn ninjas!
20:44   SFK   JYNX
20:45   Kman96   Lol
20:45      *** Blueflower999 joined #TWG
20:45   Kman96   Hola señor azure
20:45   Blueflower999   ...so do we have a new TWG chatroom?
20:45   Blueflower999   I was in the older one...
20:45   sheikah   BLUE! WHAT IS YOUR MALFUNCTION?
20:45   SFK   yeah this is the new chat
20:46   Blueflower999   ...what is my malfunction?
20:46   Kman96   Yeah idk either.
20:47   Blueflower999   Why is SFK an OP
20:47   sheikah   nevermind
20:47   sheikah   who knows?
20:47   Kman96   Sheikah, shall we fill in blueflower?
20:47   sheikah   do lets!
20:48   Blueflower999   Yes. Please.
20:48   Kman96   Take it away!
20:48   Blueflower999   Aaaaah scary smiley
20:48   sheikah   ok ill start, gimme an A Kman!
20:49   Kman96   A?
20:49   Blueflower999   Sheikah, are you drunk or something?
20:49   Blueflower999   
20:49   sheikah   you know, an A, one note above G, one below B.
20:49   sheikah   and no
20:50   Kman96   Oh...we were singing? Lol
20:50   sheikah   it was a joke
20:50   Kman96   Anyways-
20:51   sheikah   basically, this whole time we determind that we know nothing unless maestro responds to his red seering
20:52   Blueflower999   Pretty accurate.
20:53   Kman96   So I saw that you voted for maestro already. We aren't voting until maestro says something.
20:53   Kman96   FYI.
20:55   sheikah   ...
20:55   Kman96   Yes, sheikah?
20:55   Blueflower999   What do we do if Maestro doesn't respond by the end of the phase?
20:55   Kman96   Ok, so I lied. I'm not voting until maestro says something.
20:55   Kman96   Idk about you other guys.
20:56   Kman96   Then I don't know.
20:56   sheikah   if he doesnt respond by 10:30 EST, we vote him off the island
20:57   SFK   okay blue, here's what we've come up with
20:57   Kman96   Um...I am not sure what time that is for me...
20:57   SFK   the fact that Maestro was supposedly seer'd red does arrouse suspicion
20:57   sheikah   30 mins before the end of phase
20:57   SFK   but there are also factors that are in favor of him
20:58   sheikah   hard to say.
20:58   Kman96   Like?
20:58   SFK   such as the fact that he supported the revealing of Person C, even though if he were a wolf, he would know that person C was a wolf
20:58   Kman96   Hm, maybe. But then seer A would be a wolf, and that's what confuses me.
20:58   SFK   and would not pwant to put his own team member or himself in the spotlight
20:59   Kman96   I can't tell the difference, which would be better: seer A's case or Seer B's case??
20:59   sheikah   if he is a wolf, he could be trying to appear human
21:00   sheikah   hard to say, if seer A is a wolf, it makes sense why he didnt seer who he was told to, cause he couldnt, but seer B
21:00   SFK   Seer B, which is why Seer A is more believeable
21:00   SFK   it's not as perfect
21:01   sheikah   could be a wolf who was inactive for whatever reason
21:01   sheikah   like ive said, hard to say
21:02   Blueflower999   Hmmm...
21:02   Blueflower999   If Seer A is a wolf, would that mean there's a good chance that Person D is a wolf as well?
21:02   Blueflower999   Because Seer A said he was green to protect him?
21:03   Kman96   I think I would rather have seer A: he confirmed another human, and then he wouldn't be a wolf, right? Seer B could have just lied and said they were red???
21:03   Kman96   I'm not sure about anything.
21:03   Kman96   Both could be very dangerous.
21:03   Kman96   That's all we know.
21:03   sheikah   seer A could have tried to make another wolf look good?
21:04   Kman96   I don't know...
21:04   SFK   To blueflower, that is most likely the case
21:04   Kman96   But now that I think of it, don't the wolves have a seer too?
21:04   Blueflower999   Yes, they do.
21:04   SFK   yes
21:05   Blueflower999   But it's a daytime Seer
21:05   Blueflower999   So it shouldn't have any results yet.
21:05   sheikah   thats the whole problem
21:05   Kman96   Oh ok. So then the wolves don't know anything yet.
21:05   Kman96   Or...
21:06   sheikah   or what?
21:06   Kman96   I don't know, the only thing I was thinking is that the fake seer could have just guessed and got it right, who knows...
21:06   Kman96   But I'm no longer making rational sense.
21:07   sheikah   true...on both acounts
21:07   Blueflower999   The only thing I can think of to go off of here is a Maestro lynch, because we don't even know who anyone else is.
21:07   Kman96   I'm not sure which seer I'd want anymore.
21:07   Kman96   That's true.
21:07   Blueflower999   It's not a very strong suspicion, either. It's just the only thing we know.
21:07   Kman96   Exactly
21:08   Blueflower999   Which really bugs me. There's about a 50/50 chance he's human and Seer B is a wolf.
21:08   Kman96   It's 50/50 for everything, then.
21:08   SFK   Actually there's a greater chance that Mashi is human and Seer B is a wolf
21:08   Kman96   Wtf?
21:08   SFK   Due to how the seerings went
21:09   Blueflower999   Why Mashi...?
21:09   SFK   NOT MASHI
21:09   Kman96   Mashi isn't playing.
21:09   SFK   Maestro
21:09   Blueflower999   XD
21:09   Kman96   Hahahahaha lol
21:09   SFK   BECAUSE MASHI IS ALWAYS WOLF
21:09   Blueflower999   EXACTLY
21:09   SFK   RULE #1 PEOPLE
21:09   sheikah   har har har
21:09   Blueflower999   Mind if I post that in the thread? XD
21:10   SFK   DOEET
21:10   Kman96   Are we done discussing?
21:10   Kman96   I wouldn't post it until we are completely done.
21:11   sheikah   heres what this lynching boils down to, since we know not the seers identity, we are torn between maestro, with a possible red seering. and slow, for inactivity disscussed before.
21:11   Kman96   And I think sheikah should, so they get the stuff blue missed.
21:11   sheikah   right
21:11   Kman96   I think we should go for slow right now, because we can still go somewhere with maestro, otherwise that's all I have.
21:12   Blueflower999   I only posted the part about Mashi
21:12   Blueflower999   Not the whole convo
21:12   Blueflower999   And why Slow?
21:12   Blueflower999   Inactiveness?
21:12   SFK   yes
21:13   Blueflower999   That doesn't seem like a very good reason to me.
21:13   SFK   got anyone better to lynch besides those two?
21:13   sheikah   yeah, that wsa pretty much it, an inactive human only hinders us
21:13   Kman96   Yeah, we talked about it before you got here. It was because he hasn't posted at all...
21:14   sheikah   SFK, umm, not really, very little has been said this game so, this is all ive got.
21:14   Blueflower999   I'm still sticking with Maestro, personally.
21:16   sheikah   I say we PM him, give him a galactic standard week to reply, and THEN vote him off the island
21:16   Kman96   What's a galactic standard week?
21:16   sheikah   1 hour
21:17   Kman96   Aha.
21:17   Kman96   Nose goes! *puts finger on nose*
21:19   SFK   well cya guys. gotta do calc studying
21:19      *** SFK quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
21:19   Kman96   K byeeeee
21:19   sheikah   ok, have fun with that
21:20   sheikah   Kman96, Blueflower999, are we about done here?
21:20   Kman96   I don't have anything else, no.
21:21   sheikah   you mean yes? double negatives.
21:21   Kman96   Haha, I meant yeah, we are about done. Lol I never get those right.
21:23   sheikah   all-righty then, I'll post this on the game and PM maestro, sound good?
21:23   Kman96   Pm slow, not maestro.
21:23   Kman96   Remember?
21:23   sheikah   how bout both?
21:23   Kman96   Ok. No problem.
21:26   sheikah   farewell you two. And we. are. out-of-here!
21:26   Kman96   Bye!

[the_last_sheikah]

Bonus points if you can name all the movie references! 

[MaestroUGC]

I'm gone for a few hours and I come back with a noose around my neck. I hate to say this, but I'm no wolf. Sounds like I'm being set up to be very publicly killed in order to gain some trust. Seer B is your wolf, he's framing me for being a wolf in order to fool Verm into thinking they killed a wolf. Killing me only put the odds in favor of the wolves, with the score being 3-7, and after the next night 3-5. One more false seer result and the wolves have the game.

At this point it's just my word against his.

I'm going to safety on Kman, since I'm rather distracted at the moment.

[MaestroUGC]

Whoops, Kman was already safetied, shadowkirby

[spitllama]

*eats popcorn earnestly*


1 hr. left

[the_last_sheikah]

So Slow just informed me that he is on vacation and doesn't feel like posting... what should we do?

[spitllama]

I am investigating into having Spyro swap with him.

[the_last_sheikah]

sounds good to me. anyone have any remarks on maestro's defense?

[Kman96]

I don't think we should do anything about the seer situation yet.

This is all i know from the chat: If seer A is the real seer, then maestro is human. If seer B is real, then maestro is a wolf. It's a 50/50 chance that I don't want to risk. It really could go either way, so I'm changing my vote to Slow for inactivity.

[MaestroUGC]

What do you have to gain by lynching me? You have neither a confirmed wolf, nor a clue on who the real seer is.

Since he apparently doesn't care, I'm changing my vote to Slow. Inactivity in this game is like the plague, if we don't get it early then it will slow the game down to a crawl by the end.