TWG XXVI: Doctor Who

[Raymondbl]

*** Dude has joined #twg
<Raymondbl> hola dude
<Dude> Hi
<Raymondbl> lol
<Raymondbl> do you think mashi should've been given a chance to defend himself?
<Dude> Yeah, I don't think we should have insta'd him as soon as we did
<Raymondbl> so are you a dalek or cyberman?
<Dude> I think cyberman
<Dude> Is that "human"?
<Raymondbl> no it's a wolf
<Raymondbl> jk
<Dude> oh
<Dude> Oh
<Raymondbl> lmao
<Dude> STOP DOING THAT
<Raymondbl>
<Dude> :<

[Dude]

Raymond's a big meanie.

[K-NiGhT]

I lol'd. You kinda got own'd 

[Wrydryn]

Guys, always logs logs logs logs logs. People aren't always there. Sorry I wasn't there anyways I ended up just taking a nap before everyone showed up. I haven't the time to read the logs right now but I'll get around to it later.


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(5:09:51 PM) NSMGuest49: nick/ Blueflower999
(5:09:54 PM) NSMGuest49: Gah
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(5:17:16 PM) Winter: lol
(5:19:50 PM) Blueflower999: I am such a moron sometimes. I swear.
(5:34:24 PM) Winter:
(6:22:00 PM) Blueflower999: Where is everybody. I thought we were all meeting here at 5 or 6
(6:22:03 PM) Blueflower999: EST of course
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(6:37:50 PM) NSMGuest67: o
(6:37:51 PM) NSMGuest67: hai
(6:38:01 PM) NSMGuest67: play nicely, children
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(6:38:41 PM) shadowkirby: I MEAN IT
(6:38:46 PM) shadowkirby: NAOW
(6:38:54 PM) shadowkirby: DISCUSS SUSPICIONS GOGOGO
(6:39:08 PM) Blueflower999: Gogogo is like your signature phrase.
(6:39:16 PM) Blueflower999: Whenever I hear it I think of you XD
(6:39:52 PM) shadowkirby: It is, actually.
(6:40:11 PM) shadowkirby: "gogogo" (C) shadowkirby
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(7:09:26 PM) gzgregory: Hi, anyone here?
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(8:13:48 PM) NSMGuest55 [~NSMGuest5@8361869.CC7996D1.E08E2875.IP] entered the room.
(8:13:54 PM) NSMGuest55 is now known as Raymondbl
(8:14:01 PM) Raymondbl: hi
(8:18:39 PM) gzgregory: Sup.
(8:19:04 PM) Raymondbl: not much
(8:19:27 PM) Raymondbl: there's not much to talk about, is there?
(8:19:40 PM) Raymondbl: what'd you guys talk about in the irc chat at 4
(8:20:13 PM) gzgregory: I wasn't there
(8:20:34 PM) Raymondbl: darn
(8:21:02 PM) Raymondbl: do you think mashi should've been given a chance to defend himself?
(8:21:30 PM) gzgregory: for sure.
(8:22:01 PM) Raymondbl: same here.
(8:22:15 PM) Raymondbl: do you have any other suspects?
(8:22:30 PM) gzgregory: Not really...
(8:22:33 PM) Raymondbl: I think Wrydrn is a potential suspect
(8:22:38 PM) Raymondbl: given how he acted
(8:22:40 PM) gzgregory: well yeah, he caused the insta
(8:22:44 PM) gzgregory: also SP supported it
(8:22:53 PM) Raymondbl: wait who's sp
(8:23:45 PM) Raymondbl: in any event I think Wrydrn should be our next seering
(8:23:53 PM) gzgregory: slowpokemon
(8:23:55 PM) gzgregory: and agreed
(8:23:58 PM) Raymondbl: ooh
(8:24:12 PM) Raymondbl: also
(8:24:15 PM) Raymondbl: like two games ago
(8:24:18 PM) Raymondbl: no
(8:24:23 PM) Raymondbl: maybe 4 games ago
(8:24:28 PM) Raymondbl: I wasn't in the game, was banned
(8:24:32 PM) gzgregory: What
(8:24:34 PM) Raymondbl: and I asked you if you were the wolf our not
(8:24:36 PM) Raymondbl: and you lied
(8:24:39 PM) Raymondbl: you said you weren't
(8:24:52 PM) Raymondbl:
(8:25:07 PM) gzgregory: Meh
(8:25:13 PM) gzgregory: I actually don't remember that
(8:25:22 PM) Raymondbl: lol
(8:25:54 PM) Raymondbl: I wonder if Wrydrn's watching us... O.O
(8:26:15 PM) gzgregory: He'll be able to see all this when he comes back on anyway
(8:27:08 PM) Raymondbl: yeah
(8:31:04 PM) Raymondbl: so why haven't you been active lately?
(8:37:38 PM) gzgregory: I've been dealing with another twg
(8:37:44 PM) gzgregory: chatting with someone else as we speak actually
(8:37:55 PM) gzgregory: which explains why I didn't reply to you for 7 minutes
(8:38:03 PM) Raymondbl: lol no problem
(8:38:07 PM) gzgregory: also school
(8:38:16 PM) Raymondbl: this thing has no sound
(8:38:20 PM) Raymondbl: tinychat's way better
(8:38:31 PM) gzgregory: whatever tinychat lags my computer
(8:38:42 PM) gzgregory: so much that I can't really use it actually
(8:38:53 PM) Raymondbl: hm...
(8:39:08 PM) Raymondbl: so, do you know what holiday today is?
(8:39:51 PM) Raymondbl: it's chinese new year!
(8:40:06 PM) gzgregory: I know, I had chinese new year dinner last night.
(8:40:10 PM) Raymondbl: what are you in the other twg?
(8:40:11 PM) gzgregory: 'Twas awesome
(8:40:16 PM) gzgregory: It's a faction twg
(8:40:24 PM) gzgregory: I'm a seer for one of the three teams
(8:40:41 PM) gzgregory: I've kinda got a lot on my plate because I'm the one who claimed
(8:41:02 PM) gzgregory: publicly
(8:43:25 PM) Raymondbl: that sounds hard
(8:43:35 PM) Raymondbl: how does it work?
(8:43:48 PM) gzgregory: it's been pretty interesting, actually
(8:43:49 PM) Raymondbl: so three teams?
(8:43:55 PM) gzgregory: as in the TWG, or my claiming?
(8:44:06 PM) Raymondbl: so they try to eliminate the other teams?
(8:44:09 PM) Raymondbl: the TWG
(8:44:13 PM) gzgregory: yeah, pretty much
(8:44:25 PM) gzgregory: There's a team strong at night, a team strong in the day, and a 'subterfuge
(8:44:27 PM) gzgregory: ' team
(8:44:41 PM) Raymondbl: ok, I don't get it
(8:44:57 PM) gzgregory: I'll show you role list if you want
(8:44:59 PM) Raymondbl: so there's no normal lynching/wolfing?
(8:45:22 PM) gzgregory: One team has wolf powers, and there are lynchings
(8:45:24 PM) gzgregory: lemme show you
(8:45:34 PM) gzgregory: Stormcloaks
(8:45:36 PM) gzgregory: Rebellion Leader - Immune to Lynch so long as he is not the last Stormcloak alive.
(8:45:37 PM) gzgregory: Companion - May "wolf" one player each night. Vote counts for 0
(8:45:39 PM) gzgregory: Dark Brotherhood Member - May assassinate one player each night. Vote counts for 0
(8:45:41 PM) gzgregory: Rebel Mage - May discover the color of one player per night.
(8:45:42 PM) gzgregory: Imperials
(8:45:44 PM) gzgregory: King - Charismatic: Vote counts for 3
(8:45:45 PM) gzgregory: Blade - May guard one player per night from all kills / Brutal if killed in anyway
(8:45:47 PM) gzgregory: Legionnaire - May guard one player from lynch at the start of peacetime
(8:45:48 PM) gzgregory: Imperial Mage - May discover the color of one player per night
(8:45:50 PM) gzgregory: Thalmor
(8:45:51 PM) gzgregory: Justicar - May make one player's vote for the day count as -2.
(8:45:53 PM) gzgregory: Adviser - Is the color of whomever seers him.
(8:45:54 PM) gzgregory: Thief - May steal any player's ability per evening and redirect it (if desired)
(8:45:56 PM) gzgregory: Thalmor Mage - May discover the color of one player per night.
(8:45:59 PM) gzgregory: there ya go
(8:46:01 PM) gzgregory: it's based on skyrim or something so yeah
(8:46:02 PM) Raymondbl: skyrim?
(8:46:07 PM) gzgregory: lolz.
(8:46:14 PM) gzgregory: anyways I'm on blue
(8:46:18 PM) gzgregory: discussing stuff with the king
(8:46:32 PM) gzgregory: blue's imperial btw
(8:46:37 PM) Raymondbl: do you call him "your majesty?" XD
(8:46:41 PM) gzgregory: hell no
(8:48:22 PM) Raymondbl: hm that sounds even more complicated than davy's Yu-Gi-Oh game.
(8:48:34 PM) gzgregory: It's way less complicated believe me
(8:48:44 PM) gzgregory: xD
(8:48:52 PM) Raymondbl: do you think davy's game was complicated?
(8:49:03 PM) gzgregory: It was... oh god
(8:49:09 PM) gzgregory: I've never seen a game that complicated even on LLF
(8:49:12 PM) Raymondbl: I've played both Yu-Gi-Oh and skyrim, so I think davy's worked
(8:49:14 PM) gzgregory: which is where that game's from
(8:49:28 PM) Raymondbl: how about my version?
(8:49:33 PM) gzgregory: yours is better
(8:50:37 PM) Raymondbl: coming back to our current game, are you a dalek or cyberman?
(8:51:10 PM) gzgregory: Does it matter>
(8:51:16 PM) gzgregory: I'm cyberman but still
(8:51:46 PM) Raymondbl: hahahaa liar you wolf
(8:51:52 PM) gzgregory: yeah psh
(8:51:54 PM) Raymondbl: jk
(8:52:49 PM) Raymondbl: you're actually pretty good for a wolf if you were one
(8:53:15 PM) Dude [~Jamalarky@shacops-297ECF4A.woh.res.rr.com] entered the room.
(8:53:19 PM) Raymondbl: hola dude
(8:53:25 PM) Dude: Hi
(8:53:29 PM) Raymondbl: lol
(8:53:51 PM) Raymondbl: do you think mashi should've been given a chance to defend himself?
(8:54:14 PM) Dude: Yeah, I don't think we should have insta'd him as soon as we did
(8:54:32 PM) Raymondbl: so are you a dalek or cyberman?
(8:54:58 PM) Dude: I think cyberman
(8:55:06 PM) Dude: Is that "human"?
(8:55:13 PM) Raymondbl: no it's a wolf
(8:55:17 PM) Raymondbl: jk
(8:55:18 PM) Dude: oh
(8:55:20 PM) Dude: Oh
(8:55:21 PM) Raymondbl: lmao
(8:55:25 PM) Dude: STOP DOING THAT
(8:55:32 PM) Raymondbl:
(8:55:33 PM) Dude: :<
(8:56:31 PM) Raymondbl: who do you think the next seering should be?
(8:57:17 PM) Dude: I would guess Wry, but it might as well be anyone
(8:57:35 PM) Raymondbl: same opinion
(9:03:18 PM) gzgregory: hey raymond this is for you http://llforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=6&start=855
(9:03:29 PM) gzgregory: look at that monstrosity of a twg in the first post
(9:08:28 PM) Raymondbl: sorry gotta go
(9:08:32 PM) Raymondbl: but that is a huge game
(9:08:44 PM) Raymondbl: davy's isn't as complicated as that
(9:08:49 PM) Raymondbl: see ya

[Jub3r7]

The only complicated about that llf game is that everyone had powers. davy's game was a bit more than that. XD

Anyways, I suddenly had an idea. Everyone should claim to xK-NiGhTx as either a Dalek or a Cyberman, which are both human roles.

It's unknown if the miller is told he's a Dalek or cyberman, so you have to keep that in mind (Unless, shadowkirby, we're allowed to know this?).
Anyways, if there are more than four claims for one of the roles (excluding the guardian), then you know there's a wolf in that group of claims.

Sound like a plan?

[K-NiGhT]

The only complicated about that llf game is that everyone had powers. davy's game was a bit more than that. XD

Anyways, I suddenly had an idea. Everyone should claim to xK-NiGhTx as either a Dalek or a Cyberman, which are both human roles.

It's unknown if the miller is told he's a Dalek or cyberman, so you have to keep that in mind (Unless, shadowkirby, we're allowed to know this?).
Anyways, if there are more than four claims for one of the roles (excluding the guardian), then you know there's a wolf in that group of claims.

Sound like a plan?

K, what i'm getting out of this is that you want people to tell me if they're human. Am i correct?

[Jub3r7]

Kind of.

If you look at the player list, there are three Daleks and three Cybermen, plus the miller.
I want everyone to claim to you saying whether they were told they were a Dalek or a Cyberman, since everyone's going to claim human, and there can only be 3 (or 4 with the miller) of each.

[EFitTrainr]

The miller is told either dalek or cyberman.
Also, Night phase has ended. Raymondbl has been wolfed. Day phase ends sometime tommorow. most likely between 8:00 and 12:00 pm EST
1. Wrydryn
2. SuperFireKirby
3. xK-NiGhTx
4. Jub3r7
5. Slowpokemon
6. davy
7. raymondbl
8. Mashi
9. blueflower999
10. vermilionvermin
11. gzgregory
12. Dude

[Jub3r7]

Everyone claim to k-N as the dalek or cyberman, gogogo!

also some math: d = dalek, c = cyberman, p = d + c
p = 7, since 3 (c) + 3 (d) + 1 (the miller.)

However, p =~ 5 now; After raymond and verm are wolfed, that subtracts two from p.
~ means approximately because Mashi might have been human, which would subtract one from p; if verm or raymond was the guardian, then p + 1 because then they wouldn't be subtracted form 7 in the first place.

So, after taking these bits into consideration, the roles which people claim should be kept for k-N's eyes and the guardian's eyes only; this information might help them to find the wolves, but it would also help the wolves find the guardian if it was shared publicly.

[Jub3r7]

Oh yeah, and everyone should post their top three suspicions, if not more.
Wolfy people
1. Wrydryn

Sorry to say it Mashi. The risk is too high and you're very cunning.

This makes it 6/11 players now if I am correct, so it's an insta.

2. SlowPokemon

I see no real reason to... when Mashi starts talking he can get himself out of a corner pretty quickly. I say lynch him before he has a chance to confuse us. Just my opinion though.

Not really sure:
3. davy - First to vote Mashi but discourages insta rush; doesn't remove vote because...

I'm not taking off my vote because I can't wait for his defense, and I don't want to safety ppl when they might be lynched (since I cannot remove my vote from them anymore).

?? ?? Please elaborate.
4. blueflower

I agree that it is kind of suspicious that Mashi told the wolves to wolf Verm and he actually was wolfed, but I'm going to give Mashi a chance to say something before I decide on who to vote for.

I fail to see how I'm similar to Verm in any way...

But that aside, for reasons explained above, I'm going to vote Mashi. It's pretty dang unlikely that he's the Miller considering what he said about Verm.

5. Mashi - Was seered red and told wolves to wolf vermillionvermin, but was insta'd so fast that he didn't get a chance to defend himself.
6. gzgregory - Slightly inactive, but playing two TWG's at once. Seems slightly human in chat logs.



Moderately human:
7. Dude

Safety on blueflower999 until I hear what Mashi has to say.

8. SuperAwesomeFireKirby - Analyzes Mashi but doesn't vote for him to wait for a defense.


Humans for obvious reasons:
9. raymondbdl
10. vermillionvermin
11. xK-NiGhTx
12. Jub3r7

[Wrydryn]

At this stage in the game with 3 players dead I don't think it's going to do us much good with claiming.

We now have nine players with two blue roles leaving us seven other players.

Assuming Mashi was the miller and two other as lynchings. We then have 4 humans left meaning 4/7 or 5/7 (if Mashi wasn't the miller) roles as a dalek or cyberman are filled. The chance of this actually working are slim, but hey I'll still claim.

[Mashi]

TWC Post

No one claim Dalek or Cyberman because Humans shouldn't have been told their related Role to the story.  By doing so, the Humans have a way to find Wolves and perhaps find the Miller or make them easier to find.

If you've already sent a message, then I suppose it can't be helped.  This game is faulty though, if Daleks and Cybermen were told that they were either Daleks or Cybermen, rather than Humans.

[SlowPokemon]

Yes we were told. And if you didn't know that...

[Raymondbl]

If I am not mistaken, I am allowed a death post.  Also am not sure what I am allowed to say in a death post, I hope this falls within the rules.

[Things that don't fall within the rules]

Good luck.

[Greg]

blah blah blah

5. One death post may be allowed by the person killed during the Night phase. This post must be brief, and contain no information about the game. A player who is lynched, during the Day, may not post again after they are killed.

I'll make a suspicion list later, have to go to school.