General Pokémon

[Shadoninja]

I do not recommend this that much because of it's weakness to Stealth Rocks. It's easy to kill it from 50% range.

That's why you use a rapid spinner.

[Waddle Bro]

That's why you use a rapid spinner.

Yes, but still. Rapid Spinners can't always get rid of all the rocks set up on the field in one game and they give the opponent a good chance to predict a switch to the spinner and counter it.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

That's why you use a rapid spinner.

Hmmm... that gives me an idea...
Baton Pass-ing a White Herb Shell Smash + Ingrain (and maybe even a Calm Mind, if possible) into a Magic Bounce Espeon (that also has Baton Pass itself, to counter any super-effective types coming in).

The Espeon (Timid nature) might look something like this:
Reflect
Baton Pass
Psychic
Psyshock

252 HP / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Item: Leftovers/Light Clay

[Waddle Bro]

Hmmm... that gives me an idea...
Baton Pass-ing a White Herb Shell Smash + Ingrain (and maybe even a Calm Mind, if possible) into a Magic Bounce Espeon (that also has Baton Pass itself, to counter any super-effective types coming in).

What about Skill Link Cloyster?

[BlackDragonSlayer]

What about Skill Link Cloyster?

Magic Bounce on Espeon reflects any of those hazards and stuff. I was just considering it for a team of my own (especially because I'm training an Magic Bounce Espeon in White 2), although Cloyster might be a good backup in some situations.

[Waddle Bro]

Yes but you get walled by a single Dark-Type.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

Yes but you get walled by a single Dark-Type.

That's what Baton Pass is for; I thought I pointed that out...

[Waddle Bro]

Basically a Hydreigon would mess that up.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

Basically a Hydreigon would mess that up.

You could easily Baton Pass out to Cloyster or Lucario (with Aura Sphere/Close Combat and Choice Scarf, to outspeed and destroy it ). If Hydreigon uses Dark Pulse to try and defeat Espeon, then Lucario might be a better choice.

[Waddle Bro]

The point is that it will Dark Pulse before you even get to use Baton Pass.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

The point is that it will Dark Pulse before you even get to use Baton Pass.

Calm Mind should be required, I guess, to avoid any Special Sweepers.

EDIT: DERP. Espeon with Shell Smash and Timid won't have any trouble out-speeding Hydreigon.
Espeon has base speed of 110; Hydreigon has 98.
If Lucario has Steadfast or Justified, it could easily take out Hydreigon with a Close Combat. If Hydreigon is "locked" with Choice Specs, the opponent will have to switch out (or not ).

[Shadoninja]

forgot to post this:


Pokemon and it's stupid Roadblocking/Railroading

[BlackDragonSlayer]

What, where, and how did this happen?? O_o

[Waddle Bro]

EDIT: DERP. Espeon with Shell Smash and Timid won't have any trouble out-speeding Hydreigon.
Espeon has base speed of 110; Hydreigon has 98.
If Lucario has Steadfast or Justified, it could easily take out Hydreigon with a Close Combat. If Hydreigon is "locked" with Choice Specs, the opponent will have to switch out (or not ).

*blushes*
Sowwy, I somehow forgot Shell Smash's Speed boost.

[Shadoninja]

What, where, and how did this happen?? O_o

It's the route south of Undella. They're there before you beat the League.