General Pokémon

[FSM-Reapr]

because i never get any

[spitllama]

Well I'm not RNGing (not sure if that even works on gift pokes) and you can't use synchronize for event pokes... so it's a pretty big coincidence.

[Roz~]

You can RNG them, and you don't need Synchronize to get the nature you want.

[spitllama]

Ok... Well I was just soft-resetting. So that's why it was exciting.

Do you pick the nature using rng as well?

[Roz~]

Haha yeah, it is a really good soft reset. I'm not saying you have a bad 'mon, it's just weird to me when people get all excited for a 31 IV stat. =P

And yeah, you can. Back in Gen IV I wanted a Timid Jirachi, so I RNG'd a Timid flawless one. You can pretty much get everything you want, and the fun part is that they're legit. I mean the only reason I do it is because I play in official tournaments, and you need those good IVs. Otherwise I wouldn't bother RNG'ing my 'mons.

[FSM-Reapr]

lol wth is RNGing?

[BlackDragonSlayer]

lol wth is RNGing?

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pseudorandom_number_generation_in_Pok%C3%A9mon
D:

[Roz~]

lol wth is RNGing?

I'll answer your question with a simpler answer: RNG'ing is a legal way of obtaining flawless and shiny Pokemon ingame.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

I'll answer your question with a simpler answer: RNG'ing is a legal way of obtaining flawless and shiny Pokemon ingame.

In the Pokémon fandom, RNG abuse is slightly controversial. Proponents note that RNG abuse does not require a third-party device and that the Pokémon obtained through RNG abuse can be obtained through normal gameplay. In addition, Pokémon obtained through RNG abuse have been used at the Video Game Championships, an official tournament. However, some players believe that RNG abuse is cheating, as the action of picking a Pokémon's characteristics is similar to using a cheating device.

I say: "If you can do it, fine. You're just using your (legit) resources."

[JDMEK5]

I sorta get it but not really... I mean, how does this help you manipulate anything?

[Roz~]

I say: "If you can do it, fine. You're just using your (legit) resources."

Haha yeah basically. The problem with competitive battling is that you're /forced/ to do it, otherwise you'll definitely lose against other players who do RNG.

I sorta get it but not really... I mean, how does this help you manipulate anything?

Hmm... it's kinda hard to explain, but I'll do my best.
Let's say you want to breed a Lucario. You want it to be Adamant with very good IVs, if possible you want all of its IVs to be 31. What do you do? You could soft reset, but it'd take forever. That's why you RNG.
To be able to RNG, you need to download the RNG Reporter, which you can find on Smogon.
The two concepts you need to understand when you RNG are these: Seeds and Frames.

To put it simply, every time you load your game, you load a certain seed. If you load your game at 12:04:10 am on July 4th 2013, you'll load a certain seed (Let's call it Seed 1). If you load your game at 12:04:11 am on July 4th 2013, you'll load a different seed (Let's call it Seed 2). RNG manipulation requires you to change your DS's date and time, because you have to hit your seed in order to get your desired Pokémon spread (like Adamant flawless Lucario). What about the frames then? The frames range from 1 to... whatever number you want to think about. Every frame set is different, and no seed has the same frame set.
So, basically: Seed 1 Frame 1 can be Jolly 2/14/31/28/4/29, while Seed 2 Frame 1 will be Sassy 5/19/27/19/31/30
What the RNG does is that it tells you what Seed you need to hit in order to get your desired spread, and on which frame it's located. If your desired spread is on Seed 4 Frame 13, then you need to make sure you load your game on Seed 4, and you need to hit your Frame. You need to make Frame advancements but that's another story.

So that's basically how it works. RNG'ing lets you hit your desired Seed and Frame so you can get flawless Pokémon with a good nature. You can also RNG the shininess of the Pokémon too. For example, when I breed a Scizor, I always decide not to get it shiny because green Scizor sucks. =P I know it sounds complicated, but RNG'ing isn't hard at all once you get the hang of it. There are a bunch of guides on Smogon if you guys ever want to learn how to RNG too.

[Kman96]

No offense to anyone, but I could really give a shit about these natures and IV's and shit.

Good lord, whatever happened to "LVL 100 CHARIZARD OMG BEAAAST!!!" that's how I play Pokemon. Level with experience and all that stuff. Is it really that much of a difference just to have one stupid number define how "good" or "strong" your Pokemon is??

I don't think so. Let's prevent pokeprejudice by standing against these dividing forces.

[Nebbles]

Well if you're a casual player, natures don't mean anything to you... but to people who like competitive battling, yeah, it means a lot. It's not pokeprejudice. It's a preference in game play.

[Roz~]

^this.
I play the game casually. I couldn't care less about natures/IVs/EVs when I train my team so they can take on the Elite 4. I do care about all that stuff when I could potentially win money in a sanctioned Pokémon tournament. Both play styles are really different, but they're both really fun.

[November]

No offense to anyone, but I could really give a shit about these natures and IV's and shit.

Good lord, whatever happened to "LVL 100 CHARIZARD OMG BEAAAST!!!" that's how I play Pokemon. Level with experience and all that stuff. Is it really that much of a difference just to have one stupid number define how "good" or "strong" your Pokemon is??

I don't think so. Let's prevent pokeprejudice by standing against these dividing forces.

You can basically win in-game with any pokemon - they make it so that EVs and IVs don't matter at all. You can use your level 100 Charizard in casual play in general.

Competitive play is a different matter. They do make a big difference, and when you're going up against strategies and other EV and IV pokemon (that involve the strategies), you're gonna die if you don't level out the playing field ;p