The Post Your Thoughts of the Moment Thread 2

[mikey]

whyyyy does Netflix have to suck up bandwidth I can't play league ever because my grandma does nothing but watch Netflix all day

[braix]

Tell her to stop destroying her already old brain, that should get your bandwidth back up real quick.

[mikey]

Conservative thought:
30,800 car related deaths in 2012 compared to 8,855 firearm-related homicides, 505 accidental deaths, and 281 deaths due to "undetermined intent".  So before we take away guns we should take away cars, cancer, and suicide.


...take away guns lol how would that solve anything

[BlackDragonSlayer]

Conservative thought:
30,800 car related deaths in 2012 compared to 8,855 firearm-related homicides, 505 accidental deaths, and 281 deaths due to "undetermined intent".  So before we take away guns we should take away cars, cancer, and suicide.


...take away guns lol how would that solve anything

I think it's different in people's minds- cars are such an ingrained part of society today that taking them away would be highly improbable. Or not. There are some people who are opposed to the development of self-driving cars, which, if they worked right, could greatly reduce or eliminate crashes.

[deku_link]

Conservative thought:
30,800 car related deaths in 2012 compared to 8,855 firearm-related homicides, 505 accidental deaths, and 281 deaths due to "undetermined intent".  So before we take away guns we should take away cars, cancer, and suicide.


...take away guns lol how would that solve anything

Gun control is one of the few issues I'm very close to diehard conservative on, not because I think people need to defend themselves, but because taking away guns wouldn't solve anything and most firearm related homicides are committed with illegal weapons anyway. Taking away people's guns is a surefire way to piss them off, at least in America.

[mikey]

if you guys wanna keep chatting about this we can drive on over to the politics thread

[Waddle Bro]

No need homie I got you cue the wiki links and since that is a literal textbook example it should be over before it can even begin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

7. Red herring -argument
   =>Example 1.
      =>Defending keeping and bearing arms in the USA:
         "How many people die in traffic accidents annually?
         "More people than in gun-related deaths."
         => The first statement(=how many people die in traffic accidents) isn't related at all to the other problem(=whether or not guns are justified).

[Zunawe]

whyyyy does Netflix have to suck up bandwidth I can't play league ever because my grandma does nothing but watch Netflix all day

If you know your router credentials, you can restrict the bandwidth of whatever device she uses to something not detrimental.

[SlowPokemon]

No need homie I got you cue the wiki links and since that is a literal textbook example it should be over before it can even begin

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_herring

^^^^^^^

[Dude]

A+++++++

[JDMEK5]

Conservative thought:
30,800 car related deaths in 2012 compared to 8,855 firearm-related homicides, 505 accidental deaths, and 281 deaths due to "undetermined intent".  So before we take away guns we should take away cars, cancer, and suicide.


...take away guns lol how would that solve anything

Red herrings aside, keeping the general populace from having guns is impractical and illogical. Making gun possession illegal isn't gonna stop the criminals who use them for illegal means anyways. Gun control only has any effect on the law abiding citizens who can be trusted with guns with which to defend themselves and each other. The bad guys are going to have guns either way; might as well arm the good guys too instead of leaving them undefended.

[Bubbles]

HIGH SPEED WINDS LET'S FUCKIN' GO

I had to drive home in this wind and I was being blown all around ahaha and now my powers out. All this just from wind apparently

[FireArrow]

Conservative thought:
30,800 car related deaths in 2012 compared to 8,855 firearm-related homicides, 505 accidental deaths, and 281 deaths due to "undetermined intent".  So before we take away guns we should take away cars, cancer, and suicide.


...take away guns lol how would that solve anything

And 12 people died to terrorism in 2012, so let's focus on that? You're not the only one that can red herring.
http://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START_AmericanTerrorismDeaths_FactSheet_Oct2015.pdf

[BlackDragonSlayer]

And 12 people died to terrorism in 2012, so let's focus on that? You're not the only one that can red herring.
http://www.start.umd.edu/pubs/START_AmericanTerrorismDeaths_FactSheet_Oct2015.pdf

Psychologically, a single person being killed in a crime involving a gun (say, a robbery) has a vastly different effect than an organized attack by people who have the sole intent of killing people- often randomly and without easy prevention during the moment (or, for a slightly more apt comparison, the difference between some random person assassinating a politician versus people working for a foreign agency plotting to assassinate a politician). Plus, I think terrorism is seen as more easily preventable with government interference- to tie the discussion in with Nocturne's first post, it's almost like how you can't always prevent car crashes resulting from human error, but you can prevent car manufacturers from cutting costs in a way that could lead to defects that could cause crashes (or... not, depending on the level of corruption, but for the sake of argument, that's irrelevant).

[mikey]

terrorism isn't about making the kill, it's about sending a message.  I learned that on criminal minds.