The Post Your Thoughts of the Moment Thread 2

[Sebastian]

Not the word for it. Animals cannot reason. They act on instinct. They may learn, but cannot learn more than simple cause and effect principles. And they lack the ability to know to stop when the reward stops (Conditioning).

INSTINCT! Thats the word I was looking for
And I totally agree. You cant go from that to Human.
Oh and Clanker I wasnt hoping for a flame war just a friendly debate. You wanna send the first pm?
I wouldnt mind talking about it
Or would you rather have a debate topic (where cool debates are held of course)?

[Maelstrom]

Or would you rather have a debate topic (where cool debates are held of course)?

For something to be a debate, facts are needed.
And we don't need a debate thread
It ends up happening on every thread anyway.....

[Olimar12345]

I think we already locked a debate thread once lol

[Sebastian]

For something to be a debate, facts are needed.
And we don't need a debate thread
It ends up happening on every thread anyway.....

Yeah, Im planning on using facts

I think we already locked a debate thread once lol

This one wont be

[Maelstrom]

Will Fierce and BDS be banned from it?

[SuperFireKirby]

You guys really think animals can't use logic and reason? Sure, lower intelligence animals(like, an ant, for instance) can't but higher intelligence animals such as chimpanzees and dolphins hve been observed using complex problem-solving, forms of language, and structure within their societies.

MLP, debate requires the sole use of reason and factual evidence. Unfortunately for you, God exists beyond both of those. You cannot prove or disprove God's existence, therefore it cannot be debated. Evolution has never been disproven by any form of scientific evidence, therefore debating it is pointless.

[Olimar12345]

Will Fierce and BDS be banned from it?

I hope not. *grabs popcorn and a chair*

[Sebastian]

MLP, debate requires the sole use of reason and factual evidence. Unfortunately for you, God exists beyond both of those. You cannot prove or disprove God's existence, therefore it cannot be debated. Evolution has never been disproven by any form of scientific evidence, therefore debating it is pointless.

Exactly, It takes faith in both instances. I still think we should debate Evolution though. I dont think there is a way I could prove God to you....unless I used the Bible.

[Sebastian]

I hope not. *grabs popcorn and a chair*

lol....so you dont mind if we start a debate about Evolution (a cool one of course)?
But.....looks like I'd be the only one representing the fallibility of Evolution...

[FierceDeity]

Honestly, I was just about ready to start a flame war until I realized how absurdly far gone you already are. I've been trying harder to avoid lost causes, lately, and this bullshit reasoning:

Not the word for it. Animals cannot reason. They act on instinct. They may learn, but cannot learn more than simple cause and effect principles. And they lack the ability to know to stop when the reward stops (Conditioning).

the numbers of evolution don't add up and random mutations alone are not enough to create large new amounts of DNA

demonstrates to me that you're way too deeply entrenched in dogmatic rationalization to display even the faintest glimmer of hope.
(TL;DR)

Also, MLF, I agree with clanker when he says

I hope your youthful ignorance is the cause.

Maybe you guys are PMing and he's pointed this out, but if not, just know that

But Evolution (Not scientifically observed) as in Amoeba to Frog to Kitty to Monkey to Human is just a fallacy. You can't, no matter how hard you try or how long you wait, get Intelligence from a Non-Intelligent being (Monkey=Non-Intelligent to Human=Intelligent.)

^^this is one of the least accurate representations of evolutionary theory that I have ever seen. Please try to learn what you're disagreeing with before you actually disagree with it.

[Maelstrom]

But.....looks like I'd be the only one representing the fallibility of Evolution...

I don't necessarily agree with evolution. Neither Creation nor Evolution can be proven without a doubt or disproven completely. That is why debates are endless. There are much better things to debate.

[Olimar12345]

lol....so you dont mind if we start a debate about Evolution

MLF, I am not a mod. I am simply an updater. You don't need my permission for everything.

Though you probably shouldn't make a topic about it, as entertaining as it may be..

[Sebastian]

That is why debates are endless. There are much better things to debate.

Like what?

that^^this is one of the least accurate representations of evolutionary theory that I have ever seen. Please try to learn what you're disagreeing with before you actually disagree with it.

Ok....what is evolution then my friend?

MLF, I am not a mod. I am simply an updater. You don't need my permission for everything.

Though you probably shouldn't make a topic about it, as entertaining as it may be..

Haha yeah....depends on if people would actually be interested. It would bring a lot of attention.

[Maelstrom]

Like what?

Say..... idk. Anything but that. Maybe what the best video game is and why. Something more based on opinions and less based on worldviews.

[Sebastian]

I still think it would be interesting to see what people think about evolution. Like on a debate.