[NDS] Pokémon HeartGold Version & Pokémon SoulSilver Version - "Route 29" by Olimar12345

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Submission Information:
Series: Pokémon
Game: Pokémon HeartGold Version & Pokémon SoulSilver Version
Console: Nintendo DS
Title: Route 29
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Olimar12345

[Olimar12345]

Thank you!

[cashwarrior1]

based route theme

two little things i noticed

• m2/20 LH b4 is an Fn (instead of G). I also hear that note repeated on b4.5
• m14-15 the RH triplets outline the chords a little, so b1.67 would be F, b2.67 A, (m15)b1.67 E, b2.67 A(?). It'd also be easier to play than repeating the same note

Also thoughts on including the inner harmonies for m4? (that's my favorite part)

[Olimar12345]

Thank you so much for taking the time to check out my little arrangement! :>

m2/20 LH b4 is an Fn (instead of G). I also hear that note repeated on b4.5[/li][/list]

Thanks, yep I'll change that over. I'd rather leave that last eighth off though and just leave it for the tremolo.

m14-15 the RH triplets outline the chords a little, so b1.67 would be F, b2.67 A, (m15)b1.67 E, b2.67 A(?). It'd also be easier to play than repeating the same note

Good catch! I had to adjust the last one a touch and it's admittedly a tad more awkward, but should be fine. This is great, it will be so much easier to play this way! Thank you.
never have I seen decimals depict triplet values... huh. Took me a sec even though I knew what you were trying to say XD

Also thoughts on including the inner harmonies for m4? (that's my favorite part)

I originally left that out for playability and to keep things sounding "cleaner" in the LH, but that actually is pretty nifty to play with the RH. I've added a touch of it in!

Files updated!

[Latios212]

The OP has files for your Mega Man sheet! Looking forward to going over this one soon though, I love this piece and the file I downloaded before looked good~

[Olimar12345]

Sorry! It should be fixed now ^^

[Latios212]

Awesome sheet! I wrote this one out a long time ago but this is definitely neater for playing than my old one is. Here are my comments:

- The arpeggios in the original in first half of m. 5 outline Dm7 and G7b9 chords. How would you feel about incorporating those additional notes into the left hand? (e.g. play the seventh on beat 1.25/2.25 instead)
- In the second half of m. 6 (RH), the secondary voice jumping above the melody seems a bit disorienting to me on piano, despite them being laid out that way in the original. Thoughts on inverting downwards to keep the main melody on top as it is everywhere else?
- m. 12 beat 2 RH is actually a triplet beginning on D - did you intentionally simplify this to make it easier to lead into the tremolo?
- m. 15 LH beat 2: I hear G-G# instead of G#-A
- m. 16 LH beat 4.5: I hear another low G here
- m. 18 LH: I hear G on beat 1 and the octave of beats 2-2.5 flipped (I suppose this would apply to the coda measure as well)

[Olimar12345]

- The arpeggios in the original in first half of m. 5 outline Dm7 and G7b9 chords. How would you feel about incorporating those additional notes into the left hand? (e.g. play the seventh on beat 1.25/2.25 instead)

hmm. I'm not sure I like that solution but I do see that there is room for improvement here. The 7th (C) in the Dm7 that low sounds too muddy for my liking, and that's not going to really change the chord quality as drastically as the next chord. For the G7b9 I've kept the arpeggio shape from the first beat but added in the notes from the original. Trying to play that Ab from the G was a little too prone to being "missed" for me. Check it out and tell me what you think.

- In the second half of m. 6 (RH), the secondary voice jumping above the melody seems a bit disorienting to me on piano, despite them being laid out that way in the original. Thoughts on inverting downwards to keep the main melody on top as it is everywhere else?

That seems unnecessary imo. Not only is it easier to play as written, it's how this specific iteration is meant to sound. We can always go play the GSC version if we long for that c:

- m. 12 beat 2 RH is actually a triplet beginning on D - did you intentionally simplify this to make it easier to lead into the tremolo?

Yes. Reaching down for the sounding D that starts the triplet would have made the jump much more demanding on the player, when it is essentially just an ornament.

- m. 15 LH beat 2: I hear G-G# instead of G#-A
- m. 16 LH beat 4.5: I hear another low G here
- m. 18 LH: I hear G on beat 1 and the octave of beats 2-2.5 flipped (I suppose this would apply to the coda measure as well)

-fixed
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files updated. ty!

[Latios212]

hmm. I'm not sure I like that solution but I do see that there is room for improvement here. The 7th (C) in the Dm7 that low sounds too muddy for my liking, and that's not going to really change the chord quality as drastically as the next chord. For the G7b9 I've kept the arpeggio shape from the first beat but added in the notes from the original. Trying to play that Ab from the G was a little too prone to being "missed" for me. Check it out and tell me what you think.

I think this works nicely! Agreed that the G7b9 is more important here and I think what you have now conveys that well while also being comfy to play.

Nothing to add onto the other comments, looks great to me!

[Olimar12345]

bump

[XiaoMigros]

Sorry for the wait:
- m5 beat 1.25 LH sounds like a C to me
- Thoughts on including the bass note at m9 beat 4.5?
- I feel like the trilled note in the cadenza might be better off as a quarter
- If I'm right assuming that m23 is a custom ending, could you mark it as such? "Optional ending" in bold text should do.

Thanks for submitting!

[Olimar12345]

-I agree, changed.
-Left that out on purpose tbh. I tried to make more of a break for this cadence rather than make it entirely nonstop. Gives the LH more time to reset too.
-That's fair, I'll change it to that then.
-I kind of like the unambiguity it has as it is, tbh. I think it's pretty safe to assume anyone looking for Pokmeon Route themes know that they loop indefinitely. Adding "Opional [anything]" to the already wordy D.S. al coda setup would, imo muddy things up more than clarify an obvious thing. Keep things concise, you know-does that make sense?

Files updated.

[Olimar12345]

bump, this one was pretty reviewed already!

[XiaoMigros]

Yes indeed, sorry for the wait!

Adding "Opional [anything]" to the already wordy D.S. al coda setup would, imo muddy things up more than clarify an obvious thing. Keep things concise, you know-does that make sense?

Is it possible to add it to the right, in parentheses, or directly under instead? I understand the clunkiness it adds but I do feel it's somewhat important

[XiaoMigros]

Discussed changes over discord, accepted!