[MUL] Paranormasight: The Seven Mysteries of Honjo - "I'll Be Close By" by Metamyrrh

Started by Zeta, March 27, 2024, 06:01:36 PM

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Zeta

Submission Information:

Series: Other
Game: Paranormasight: The Seven Mysteries of Honjo
Console: Multiplatform
Title: I'll Be Close By
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Metamyrrh

Metamyrrh


Thank you to Atcero for kindly converting my files to Finale!

Fyi, I meant to put parentheses on the LH notes that overlap with the RH in m8 and m9, but looks like they disappeared in the conversion to Finale. I'll add them back after the first round of feedback!

Kricketune54

Thank you Atcero as well! Things are a biiiiit stretched for the 1st system of page 2 but otherwise things seem to have converted pretty well. Just starting with a bit of a skim of first half or so but wanted to leave some feedback:

• m1 RH 4.5 hearing an F# 8th note (same octave as 3.5)
• m12 RH 1.5-3.0 I understand the reasoning for putting these up an octave, I'd suggest just staying at the original octave though. I don't think restriking the F# on 3.5 is a big enough reason to move this part all the way up.
• m13 RH not hearing a second layer, Gn on 1.0 is same length as the Bn above it, and there is a Dn at bottom of this grouping. On 2.5, the Bn and Dn are restruck (underneath the Bn). On 3.0 I hear a En below current notes. On 4.0, I hear Dn below the Bn, and an En below the A# on 4.5
• m14 RH Dn underneath the Bn
• m21 4.5 RH not hearing this separate Dn, sounds like Fn is held for whole note length.

Metamyrrh

Thank you very much for taking a look! :)

Quote from: Kricketune54 on April 04, 2024, 08:55:41 PMThank you Atcero as well! Things are a biiiiit stretched for the 1st system of page 2 but otherwise things seem to have converted pretty well.
I see what you mean, and measures 27 and 31 look too wide too. Sorry, I do not think I can do anything about this from Musescore.

Quote• m13 RH not hearing a second layer, Gn on 1.0 is same length as the Bn above it, and there is a Dn at bottom of this grouping. On 2.5, the Bn and Dn are restruck (underneath the Bn). On 3.0 I hear a En below current notes. On 4.0, I hear Dn below the Bn, and an En below the A# on 4.5
Added, except I do not hear the En in beat 4.5.

Fixed everything else!

Here are the updated musicxml and mscz files: https://www.mediafire.com/file/xuwhx32cw6zph3b/I'll+be+close+by+v2.zip/file

Kricketune54

Quote from: Metamyrrh on April 05, 2024, 02:50:35 AMThank you very much for taking a look! :)
I see what you mean, and measures 27 and 31 look too wide too. Sorry, I do not think I can do anything about this from Musescore.
We (updaters) will just have to update that later when doing our file tweaking of the import to Finale

Quote from: Metamyrrh on April 05, 2024, 02:50:35 AMAdded, except I do not hear the En in beat 4.5.
I'm still hearing this - it's the strings part in the original

Sorry for the wait, but back with a bit of a deeper look.

• m11 and 12 LH not hearing a different note on 4.0, sounds like 3.5 is a quarter note length F#
• m15-17 LH you could imitate the string tremolos here from the original, maybe between Gn-C# and An-Dn on m15-16, and An-Dn and Bn-En for m17?
• m21 LH 1.0 add the An under the Fn for the piano
• m22 LH hearing an En in between current pitches on beat 3
• m25 RH 1.0 I think this Gb makes more sense written as an F# - the chord of this particularly measure is in C major, and F# is also travelling up to Gn in this instance (on beat 2).
• m29 just remember to put a double bar line with any key changes. However, I don't think changing the key to E major makes much sense here, the song ends on D minor. Would just keep the key change from m19.

• m29 RH beat 3 not hearing a Bn. I think this measure should have two layers: the piano part in layer 1, and the En from beat 1 is the strings, and should be a whole note length in layer 2.
• m30 RH I think you could continue having a second string layer, with D half note on beat 1, and on beat 3 move to C# for half note length
• m31 RH hearing an An between these notes
• m32 RH I think the grace note is just an An down an octave from that pitch


Metamyrrh

No worries about the wait. I know there are many submissions. Thank you very much for taking the time to look through it! :)

m12 LH: I still hear an A# in beat 4.0.

m15-17 LH: For the tremolos, I'm hearing different notes that I have put in as trills. I'm not confident about the pitches and I know the hands crossing is iffy, so let me know if what I have put in is not workable.

m29-30 RH: To avoid clashes, only added the strings layer where the LH is not playing.

Fixed everything else! Here are the updated files: https://www.mediafire.com/file/twpiaky7k1wui8q/I'll+be+close+by+v3.zip/file

Kricketune54

Quote from: Metamyrrh on May 11, 2024, 10:11:30 PMm12 LH: I still hear an A# in beat 4.0.
Ah yes, you are correct upon relisten.

Quote from: Metamyrrh on May 11, 2024, 10:11:30 PMm15-17 LH: For the tremolos, I'm hearing different notes that I have put in as trills. I'm not confident about the pitches and I know the hands crossing is iffy, so let me know if what I have put in is not workable.
Just to clarify, the symbol for tremolos looks like this: 
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The symbol currently present indicates trills. Here's an example also of what I was thinking for m15 for example, for what this could look like.
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Quote from: Metamyrrh on May 11, 2024, 10:11:30 PMm29-30 RH: To avoid clashes, only added the strings layer where the LH is not playing.
This looks good.

One other small comment, add a slur to the grace note on m32.

Metamyrrh

Thanks for taking a look, sorry for the delayed response! And, sorry, I misunderstood what you meant for the tremolos in m15-17. I tried out what you were thinking and found those tremolos quite awkward to play in that spot. I think a trill is easier to play and gives a similar impression (when executed with the dynamics you notated). Does that work? Also, I added the slur to m32!

Here are the changed files: https://www.mediafire.com/file/729wgpi2uxcgk8o/I'll+be+close+by+v4.zip/file

Kricketune54

Okay gotcha. Yeah that looks good now and that work as far as the trills for me. Do have a few more things I reviewed and wanted to run by you.

• m3 LH the lower octave F# might be a little better if you moved it up to a Bn. Then have it restrike on beat 3 as well. Could do m3-4 like this:
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• m14 RH I think you could add an upper octave here of the Bn
• At m26 LH, I think beat 3 sounds more like down an octave.
• Looking at m28 again, I think RH 2.5 the An should go to the second layer, and the Fn stay in layer 1. Currently it looks a little confusing, and I think this will show the melody/harmony separation a bit better.

Metamyrrh

Thanks! That m3-m4 sounds great. Updated files: https://www.mediafire.com/file/51xvmp46rxfxd4z/I'll+be+close+by+v5.zip/file

For m14 RH, sorry, what do you mean? A higher Bn is not reachable.

For m28 RH, I agree that the changes make the RH voices clearer. Originally I had the lower Fn in a separate layer to make it clear that the LH should play Fn in beat 2.0. Is it still clear now? Also, m27-28 I added Ds in the RH for the faint string layer.

Kricketune54

Quote from: Metamyrrh on June 02, 2024, 02:12:12 AMFor m14 RH, sorry, what do you mean? A higher Bn is not reachable.
Typo on my part - meant to say a lower octave Bn. Did you mean to make this a whole note in m14 as well?

Quote from: Metamyrrh on June 02, 2024, 02:12:12 AMFor m28 RH, I agree that the changes make the RH voices clearer. Originally I had the lower Fn in a separate layer to make it clear that the LH should play Fn in beat 2.0. Is it still clear now? Also, m27-28 I added Ds in the RH for the faint string layer.

Your change for RH m27 has inspired me to reexamine this section and offer up some additional RH suggestions from what I hear. At m27, you could also add the audible Bb below the Dn in the second layer. But for m28, relistening I think it would make more sense to drop the lower octave Fn, and to just move it up to An (one is heard under the Dn to fill out the chord). You could add in a quarter and 8th rest to layer 2 as well just to fill this out.
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This should be it from me though  ;D

Metamyrrh

m14: Got it, added the Bn! Yes, I think it sounds more like the original to sustain all the notes to the end of the measure
m27-28 RH: Changed. My only misgiving is that the LH should strike the same Bb on m27 beat 2.5.

Thank you for the thorough review! :)

Updated files: https://www.mediafire.com/file/3tgod29c2aku4u2/I'll+be+close+by+v6.zip/file

Kricketune54

This sheet is now approved, discussed one final change to m31 RH, which is represented in the newly formatted submission files.

cashwarrior1

Sorry for the wait!

The developer should be listed as Xeen Inc, as that is how they are credited in game. Also as an aside for anyone else looking, the only places this credit is listed is on fan sites like wikipedia and metacritic (which just list Xeen) and in the in-game credits (which list Xeen Inc). No official site or publication lists this information.

  • m2 b3 lh - I hear an An in this chord (its held into the next beat in the viola)
  • The end of the slur in measure 10 is a bit sharp and could be softened. As well as the slurs in m27 and 28, those could be smoothened.
  • m19 lh - It's sounding a little empty without the G on beat 1
  • m20 rh - I'm hearing the melody harmonized below with Bn - C# - D starting on beat 3
  • m26 b2 lh - I'm hearing An instead of Bb
  • m29 - There should be rests in the 2nd layer of the rh, though I'm pretty sure the En should be a whole note. The En on beat 3 should be in the lh since it is part of that arpeggio.
  • m30 rh - The dot in the dotted half note should be on the same space as the note, and ahead of all the notes
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  • m31 rh - The piano is playing a rolled Dsus2 chord (Dn, En, An)

Metamyrrh

Thank you so much for taking a look! :)

Weird that Xeen is not credited on the Square Enix website! For a source outside of the credits, the game is also listed on the Xeen website.

m29: I agree the E in the RH sounds for the duration of the measure in the original piece, but because the LH plays the same key, the RH can't hold it. After thinking about it some more, I think it would sound best if the performer held the E with the RH until the LH strikes the key, then held the note with the LH until the end of the measure. I don't know the best way to notate that. Quarter note in the RH and ties in the LH? I've put a whole note in the RH for now.

Fixed everything else! Great catches! I changed the slurs and dot location in Musescore, but I do not know whether it will translate to Finale. https://www.mediafire.com/file/8yhv50fq7g4hjg7/I'll+be+close+by+v7.zip/file