TWG CXIX: Luigi Wins by Doing Absolutely Everything

[Oricorio]

I guess we can infer that Waluigi's THC claim was motivated by not wanting to out the real account and thus claimed to be the one player who couldn't defend themselves at that time. There was a high risk of being outed, but there really was no other choice. The question here is whether their original kill on THC was motivated by preparing for such a scenario and what that means for the Xiao kill.

[Oricorio]

I still lack any real reason to townread threalmathguy.

[Oricorio]

So, there's a question of why Waluigi would lie about Toby's seer result when they know they'd be exposed? Though I'm not sure if BDS or N1P specified whether the seers were told that they were seering the same target

[Oricorio]

Also I think threalmathguy was allegedly seered green by Waluigi? That could be a lie, threalmathguy could be the master wolf, or this whole thing could be a smokescreen. It's probably not worth reading into

[Nana1Popo2]

Because we like analyzing the way people type, here are the only other two replies i have from Waluigi:

In response to the seer choice

Cool. Will post result tomorrow.

In response to the seer result

Looks like you lived ?

Toby is red.

WAHHHHH

Apologies for not the most active commenter, but my thoughts have been an ever increasing town read on Toby and a slower increased wolf-read on Ori.
Most of my sus happens on intuition and consistency rather than "he said/she said" or looking deep into previous posts, however...

Readings all of a sudden are shifting towards a wolf-lean Toby because of the typing tendencies that have been mentioned here prior.

I'm looking at the spaces before question marks and I don't see anyone else here doing them except for Toby. That's not entirely a... natural tendency imo.
Queue the reference material:

This games a mess

So Waluigi was claiming to be THC banking on him not being revived so the claim could hold true ? Or Waluigi claimed to be THC so wolf THC didn't look like a wolf and could be revived ?

With THC being alive and n1p2 not being dead, I guess that means both won't be wolfed by the time lynch or lose comes around on day 3? So by wolfing Xiao last night, THC has reason to survive longer.

Or is this all just a big distraction ?

Me being seered both red and green is interesting. I'm not sure if that means I'm a miller and the wolf was redirected or I'm just a green human and the wolves are trying to pin me up

Earlier, the first PM from Waluigi, I believe could have also been Specs due to the nature of such proper grammar and punctuation... perhaps the account is traded off to mix it up.

I would like to hear further speculation on the matter.
But i'll submit my gut lynch vote for Oricorio, for now. Highly subject to change.

[Oricorio]

Because we like analyzing the way people type, here are the only other two replies i have from Waluigi:

In response to the seer choice
In response to the seer result
Apologies for not the most active commenter, but my thoughts have been an ever increasing town read on Toby and a slower increased wolf-read on Ori.
Most of my sus happens on intuition and consistency rather than "he said/she said" or looking deep into previous posts, however...

Readings all of a sudden are shifting towards a wolf-lean Toby because of the typing tendencies that have been mentioned here prior.

I'm looking at the spaces before question marks and I don't see anyone else here doing them except for Toby. That's not entirely a... natural tendency imo.
Queue the reference material:
Earlier, the first PM from Waluigi, I believe could have also been Specs due to the nature of such proper grammar and punctuation... perhaps the account is traded off to mix it up.

I would like to hear further speculation on the matter.
But i'll submit my gut lynch vote for Oricorio, for now. Highly subject to change.

Pourquoi moi?

[Oricorio]

As for the analysis, is "space+question mark" a well-known enough tic for Toby that it could be faked ?

(Faking it myself for demonstration)

[BlackDragonSlayer]

As for the analysis, is "space+question mark" a well-known enough tic for Toby that it could be faked ?

(Faking it myself for demonstration)

It's very possible that someone else could have noticed it and deliberately added it in to try and frame Toby. Toby himself does it inconsistently from what I can see, though, so I'm not sure if anyone else would've picked up on it being a Toby thing specifically.

I also think it's likely that both wolves have used the account and posted/PM'd from it at different points. Possible that the second wolf took over after the Waluigi slip.

[Toby]

Well apparently I've done that quite a lot recently

It looks like whoever is speaking from the Waluigi is intending to mimick other posting styles

If they hadn't called me red it would have been less obvious they tried to mimick me. Or were they trying to mimick me the whole time ? The other PMs sounded quite abrasive and grammatical so I don't think so. Unless it's 2 people sending the PMs trying to mimick other people each time?

[Oricorio]

Well apparently I've done that quite a lot recently

It looks like whoever is speaking from the Waluigi is intending to mimick other posting styles

If they hadn't called me red it would have been less obvious they tried to mimick me. Or were they trying to mimick me the whole time ? The other PMs sounded quite abrasive and grammatical so I don't think so. Unless it's 2 people sending the PMs trying to mimick other people each time?

If that's true, are there any hints of who they're mimicking besides you? I don't believe they're mimicking me, otherwise you'd see more mafia terms used or something like that

[Toby]

Well the use of proper grammar and periods at the end of sentences could be THC, Specs, BDS

[Oricorio]

Well the use of proper grammar and periods at the end of sentences could be THC, Specs, BDS

That sounds too generic to be specific to anyone

[TheZeldaPianist275]

I find myself profoundly offended that I am not included in the pool of perfect grammar users!

In all seriousness, I'm also leaning toward an Oricorio vote right now and away from the Toby/Math pairing that I was considering during N2. My thinking on Oricorio is that he has been the one to point out and condemn the TWG Waluigi slip most strongly. After it happened, I've been looking closely for people to act embarrassed by or dismissive toward it, and Oricorio is the player who's done this far and away the most.

The idea that two wolves would have discussed outing a blue result for hours and not realize the obvious problems is simply absurd to me. I'd like to think that we're all smarter than that.

A reaction test is faking a red seer result on someone, not whatever the hell this shit is.

What the hell are the wolves even doing at this point?

So Waluigi fucked up not once but twice lol. Will they even dare to show their face again?

To me this reads like intentional, practiced contempt. Whether Oricorio made the slip himself accidentally and wants to get away from it as far as possible, or whether he has been planning to intentionally make Waluigi seem like a noob and make a meal out of the incompetence, there's a pattern here that I think is worth paying attention to. I also think that he's an obvious potential partner for Specs as well.

[Nana1Popo2]

As for the analysis, is "space+question mark" a well-known enough tic for Toby that it could be faked ?

(Faking it myself for demonstration)

I dont see it being something faked just to be caught.. its soooo niche. Like instinctive almost

Also, TZP, my thoughts exactly^

[Oricorio]

I find myself profoundly offended that I am not included in the pool of perfect grammar users!

In all seriousness, I'm also leaning toward an Oricorio vote right now and away from the Toby/Math pairing that I was considering during N2. My thinking on Oricorio is that he has been the one to point out and condemn the TWG Waluigi slip most strongly. After it happened, I've been looking closely for people to act embarrassed by or dismissive toward it, and Oricorio is the player who's done this far and away the most.

To me this reads like intentional, practiced contempt. Whether Oricorio made the slip himself accidentally and wants to get away from it as far as possible, or whether he has been planning to intentionally make Waluigi seem like a noob and make a meal out of the incompetence, there's a pattern here that I think is worth paying attention to. I also think that he's an obvious potential partner for Specs as well.

Believe me, if that were the plan I wouldn't have waited for someone else to jump on it first. I also don't think that immediately discrediting the wolf seer is a good wolf strategy, but whatever.