TWG CXIX: Luigi Wins by Doing Absolutely Everything

[Toby]

Why would you be wolfed first over anyone else? Thats not been a precedent set in any of the previous games

[BlackDragonSlayer]

Why would you be wolfed first over anyone else? Thats not been a precedent set in any of the previous games

...what? That's been a precedent set long before the current TWG revival (and in the first game post-revivial, I was the first person wolfed).

[Nana1Popo2]

...what? That's been a precedent set long before the current TWG revival (and in the first game post-revivial, I was the first person wolfed).

Is this something that had happened in the past few games? A trend?

[SpecsFlyer17]

This is a weird discussion (potentially a distraction), but I'm curious as well.

Nothing Special: Wolfed N1
Numbers Game: Hosted
Assassins Gambit: Survived late into the game.
Lantern Keeper: Wolfed N2
TTT: Survived late into the game.

So kinda I guess?

[Toby]

This is a weird discussion (potentially a distraction), but I'm curious as well.

Nothing Special: Wolfed N1
Numbers Game: Hosted
Assassins Gambit: Survived late into the game.
Lantern Keeper: Wolfed N2
TTT: Survived late into the game.

So kinda I guess?

We have money: Wolfed N6
CXII: survives to end game as human
Hitler CXI: is a wolf
CX: is a wolf
CIX Shattered: idk but isnt wolfed night 1 and claims special when nearly lynched on day apparently

Am I missing something I've only seen you wolfed night 1 once in the last 10 games?

This is reading more as a misunderstanding than a wolf tell at this point

[therealmathguy]

...what? That's been a precedent set long before the current TWG revival (and in the first game post-revivial, I was the first person wolfed).

I haven't been on the site that long so I don't know the trend but it seems like you're playing at a sort of gambler's fallacy

[BlackDragonSlayer]

I haven't been on the site that long so I don't know the trend but it seems like you're playing at a sort of gambler's fallacy

Manti Rule - Once upon a time, there was a TWG player who went by the name Manti. He was soooooo good at TWG, everybody died. Well, something like that. But he was really quite good, and ended up being wolfed on night 1 whenever he was human. And if he wasn't wolfed night 1, players reasoned that he must be a wolf that game and killed him. The Manti Rule refers to cases where players seem suspicious by the fact that they weren't wolfed early in the game.

It's generally a trend that veteran players or players who are seen to be more "dangerous" to the wolf team tend to be wolfed earlier on—unless the wolves shoot for a "random" wolfing to avoid giving the human team any info.

[Nana1Popo2]

I'm aware of the Manti Rule, just didnt know you felt like you were getting subjected to it as of late~

[SpecsFlyer17]

Oh so you're really good at this game, huh?

Haha jk, I get where you're coming from.

I think it's a little too much to jump to a conclusion that you were wolf seer'd or are the miller based on that alone, but it's possible.

[TheZeldaPianist275]

As a member of the wolf team in Nothing Special 2, I can say that BDS' wolfing N1 was selected by random.org

[BlackDragonSlayer]

As a member of the wolf team in Nothing Special 2, I can say that BDS' wolfing N1 was selected by random.org

:morton2:

[BlackDragonSlayer]

I'm aware of the Manti Rule, just didnt know you felt like you were getting subjected to it as of late~

Given the sudden injection of new players since the revival that's probably changed, but pre-revival it was generally accepted (IIRC) that I was more likely than average to be wolfed N1 than most players (and same with Davy as well when he was playing).

[BlackDragonSlayer]

There's also the fact that I've played in or hosted in every NSMTWG since I started playing which probably means I'm more likely to have a higher number of N1 wolfings by numbers alone.

But anyway I maintain that this feels like a very strange thing for Toby to push back against regardless.

[TheZeldaPianist275]

I'm just more curious why you would exempt other old codgers such as myself, Toby, and Oricorio (and N1P2? Idk) from that calculation.

[SpecsFlyer17]

Yeah I get what you're saying.

Toby did quick to criticize you claiming you got wolf-seer'd or claiming you are the miller. I don't really see wolf!Toby being that aggressive to criticize if it were true; that's too obvious.