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Static's "Too Hot to Handle" Project Sheets

Started by Static, August 12, 2023, 02:59:54 PM

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Static

[DC] Skies of Arcadia - "Dungeon of Searing Heat"
[MID] [MUS] [MUSX] [PDF] [Original]

[PC] Final Fantasy XIV - "The Twin Faces of Fate - The Theme of Ul'dah"
[MID] [MUS] [MUSX] [PDF] [Original]

Bloop

Dungeon of Searing Heat
-m26: The chords on beat 2 and 4 in the R.H. aren't particularly comfortable to play: maybe you could leave out the bottom Ab's in those chords (as well as beat 3 for consistency)? It'll be a bit easier to bring out the second layer too then.
-m27 and 29: It doesn't seem feasible to have the R.H. play the run on beat 3-4 and then jump down to the next measure within the time of a sextuplet 16th. Maybe you could make something work that ends on beat 4.5 to give the player some time? Also, in m27, is the pedal in beat 3 there to hold the note in beat 1? It'd be better if that was on beat 2 or beat 2.5, as the player won't be holding that chord anymore on beat 3.
-m33 and 37: Maybe you can move the second layer on beat 1-1.5 down an octave, so both voices don't get in each other's way?
-m38: Maybe you could add a pedal mark here on beat 2? You added pedal mark in other places where the player can't hold the second layer anymore
-m44: I hear (low) G - D - G in the L.H. on beat 4.25
-m45: I hear and F instead of a G on beat 4.5
-m46: Maybe you could add a low C on the chord in the R.H.?

Static

Quote from: Bloop on August 20, 2023, 12:28:44 PM-m26: The chords on beat 2 and 4 in the R.H. aren't particularly comfortable to play: maybe you could leave out the bottom Ab's in those chords (as well as beat 3 for consistency)? It'll be a bit easier to bring out the second layer too then.
Yeah that sounds good, fixed

Quote from: Bloop on August 20, 2023, 12:28:44 PM-m27 and 29: It doesn't seem feasible to have the R.H. play the run on beat 3-4 and then jump down to the next measure within the time of a sextuplet 16th. Maybe you could make something work that ends on beat 4.5 to give the player some time? Also, in m27, is the pedal in beat 3 there to hold the note in beat 1? It'd be better if that was on beat 2 or beat 2.5, as the player won't be holding that chord anymore on beat 3.
I thought it sounded a bit weird to end the runs early, so instead I moved beat 1 of m28/30 up an octave and removing the last Bb from the run. Makes it more feasible while not sounding choppy. Adjusted the pedal markings also.

Quote from: Bloop on August 20, 2023, 12:28:44 PM-m33 and 37: Maybe you can move the second layer on beat 1-1.5 down an octave, so both voices don't get in each other's way?
I'd rather keep the bassline consistent in that section, so I just combined the layers to make it look less confusing.

Quote from: Bloop on August 20, 2023, 12:28:44 PM-m38: Maybe you could add a pedal mark here on beat 2? You added pedal mark in other places where the player can't hold the second layer anymore
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Quote from: Bloop on August 20, 2023, 12:28:44 PM-m44: I hear (low) G - D - G in the L.H. on beat 4.25
There are several spots like this where I intentionally flipped notes around in order to make jumping to the next measure easier and/or avoid repeated 16ths. If you think it'd be fine writing them as played originally I'll do that instead

Quote from: Bloop on August 20, 2023, 12:28:44 PM-m45: I hear and F instead of a G on beat 4.5
Did you mean LH? I'm still hearing a G there.

Quote from: Bloop on August 20, 2023, 12:28:44 PM-m46: Maybe you could add a low C on the chord in the R.H.?
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In addition to the above, I also adjusted m22/24 LH beat 4.5, since those bass notes were also incorrect.

Thanks for taking a look!

Bloop

Quote from: Static on August 23, 2023, 01:32:05 PMThere are several spots like this where I intentionally flipped notes around in order to make jumping to the next measure easier and/or avoid repeated 16ths. If you think it'd be fine writing them as played originally I'll do that insteadThanks for taking a look!
I think two repeated 16ths aren't that much of a problem, it's not crazy quick yet.

Quote from: Static on August 23, 2023, 01:32:05 PMDid you mean LH? I'm still hearing a G there.
Ah yeah I meant L.H., but I do still hear the F on beat 4.5. Beat 4.75 is still the G then

Kricketune54

"The Twin Faces of Fate - The Theme of Ul'dah"

• m15-16 LH 2.0 sounds like Bb not Db, cluster is Ab-Gb-F top to bottom?
• m23-24 LH 2.0 and 3.5 is Bb? Same octave
• m34 and 38 LH 1.0 not hearing the F on top, sounds like a G
• m41 LH very small but ties could look like this
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• m42 LH beat 2.5 this chord doesn't sound very representive, perhaps move the Eb to Gb and put below Ab?
• m51 RH 3.0 F# grace note on the G, also on beat 3 G in m52
• m56 RH 3.0 G# grace note on An

You could do something a little more for m63-64, maybe write out some percussive taps on piano for person to do? Or could just delete the measures and go right back to beginning. It just seems unusual to sit there for two whole measures and then go back to the beginning.

Static

Dungeon of Searing Heat

Quote from: Bloop on August 25, 2023, 07:15:37 AMI think two repeated 16ths aren't that much of a problem, it's not crazy quick yet.
Sounds good, I'll keep those as they are in the original then. Changed a few other spots back as well.

Quote from: Bloop on August 25, 2023, 07:15:37 AMAh yeah I meant L.H., but I do still hear the F on beat 4.5. Beat 4.75 is still the G then
I'm still not hearing an F here.



The Twin Faces of Fate - The Theme of Ul'dah

Quote from: Kricketune54 on August 28, 2023, 07:41:16 PM• m15-16 LH 2.0 sounds like Bb not Db, cluster is Ab-Gb-F top to bottom?
The notes on beat 2 and 3.5 are there to mimic the percussion, and I tried to keep the chords relatively consistent (root, 5th, 7th/9th/3rd cluster) to make it easier to play. It's a Gbmaj9 either way.

Quote from: Kricketune54 on August 28, 2023, 07:41:16 PM• m23-24 LH 2.0 and 3.5 is Bb? Same octave
Same as above, but 2.0 and 3.5 is reinforces the bass instead.

Quote from: Kricketune54 on August 28, 2023, 07:41:16 PM• m34 and 38 LH 1.0 not hearing the F on top, sounds like a G
I put F to keep it the same voicing as 2.5, but G sounds better.

Quote from: Kricketune54 on August 28, 2023, 07:41:16 PM• m41 LH very small but ties could look like this
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Yep, agreed.

Quote from: Kricketune54 on August 28, 2023, 07:41:16 PM• m42 LH beat 2.5 this chord doesn't sound very representive, perhaps move the Eb to Gb and put below Ab?
I want to keep the 6th and 9th in there, but I do agree it doesn't really sound right without Gb. I added a Gb under the Ab and kept the rest the same.

Quote from: Kricketune54 on August 28, 2023, 07:41:16 PM• m51 RH 3.0 F# grace note on the G, also on beat 3 G in m52
• m56 RH 3.0 G# grace note on An
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Quote from: Kricketune54 on August 28, 2023, 07:41:16 PMYou could do something a little more for m63-64, maybe write out some percussive taps on piano for person to do? Or could just delete the measures and go right back to beginning. It just seems unusual to sit there for two whole measures and then go back to the beginning.
I wouldn't want to delete them since they're part of the loop but yeah some percussion would be good.

Kricketune54

On subject of tie adjustments, was looking again and the tie for the Bb on lower layer RH beat 2.5 is a bit weird when looking at the PDF. You could make adjustments like so for m1, 3, 5, and 7:
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m25 RH beat 4 not hearing the two 16th notes (Eb and Db) but another 16th triplet, Db-Eb-Db

Think that's going to be it from me on this one

Bloop

Quote from: Static on September 04, 2023, 11:05:44 AMI'm still not hearing an F here.
In that case I think we'll need another updater's opinion on this, but otherwise I'll approve Dungeon of Searing Heat!
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Static

The Twin Faces of Fate - The Theme of Ul'dah

Quote from: Kricketune54 on September 09, 2023, 08:54:57 PMOn subject of tie adjustments, was looking again and the tie for the Bb on lower layer RH beat 2.5 is a bit weird when looking at the PDF. You could make adjustments like so for m1, 3, 5, and 7:
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Fixed

Quote from: Kricketune54 on September 09, 2023, 08:54:57 PMm25 RH beat 4 not hearing the two 16th notes (Eb and Db) but another 16th triplet, Db-Eb-Db
I'm hearing that now, although first note in the triplet sounds like F instead of Db.

Kricketune54

Quote from: Static on September 25, 2023, 10:59:41 AMThe Twin Faces of Fate - The Theme of Ul'dah
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I'm hearing that now, although first note in the triplet sounds like F instead of Db.

Did you mean to adjust the ties like this? I think this makes it harder to see. Lmk if this looks different in your Finale tho.
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And I hear the F now as well.

• m56 RH maybe you could flip the 2nd layer 4.5 tie so it's above not below? Looks almost like it's going to the D otherwise in my opinion.

That should do it from me

Static

Quote from: Kricketune54 on September 26, 2023, 08:49:16 AMDid you mean to adjust the ties like this? I think this makes it harder to see. Lmk if this looks different in your Finale tho.
Weird, idk why it's like that, it is on my end too. Should be good now though.

Quote from: Kricketune54 on September 26, 2023, 08:49:16 AM• m56 RH maybe you could flip the 2nd layer 4.5 tie so it's above not below? Looks almost like it's going to the D otherwise in my opinion.
I just adjusted the tie position so it connects to the F instead.

Kricketune54

Looks better now thanks for fixing! Approving The Theme of Ul'dah

Kricketune54

Dungeon of Searing Heat
•m42 LH 4.5 hearing D not Eb
•m44 LH beat's 4.25-end hearing G-D-G like m21 or m23 not D-G-D. Looks like Bloop mentioned this earlier though if I'm understanding correctly, you meant to fix this? To pattern like the original i.e. like those other measures.

Think that's everything from me though

Static

Dungeon of Searing Heat
Quote from: Kricketune54 on October 01, 2023, 07:47:11 PM•m42 LH 4.5 hearing D not Eb
I'm still hearing Eb there. It fits with the chord too, Eb/G.

Quote from: Kricketune54 on October 01, 2023, 07:47:11 PM•m44 LH beat's 4.25-end hearing G-D-G like m21 or m23 not D-G-D. Looks like Bloop mentioned this earlier though if I'm understanding correctly, you meant to fix this? To pattern like the original i.e. like those other measures.
Yup, I just forgot to change it. Nice catch

Kricketune54

Quote from: Static on October 11, 2023, 03:54:42 PMDungeon of Searing HeatI'm still hearing Eb there. It fits with the chord too, Eb/G.
Hmm, I'm still hearing the D. Pitching up was clear it was a D, but also just comparing the sound of same beat between m42 and m44.