TWG III: Master Hand's Finale

[Sirus]

fine 
NO VOTE 
ill try to get on as much as i can

[jake3343]

I change my vote to No one

[Gooch]

Ok, i only have maybe 2 minutes before my mom charges in here, so im going to explain as quickly as i can why im gonna be inactive. First off, my mom is connecting my being on the internet most of the time with the fact that i might be looking at porn or other junk, so she has taken my internet from me except for when she's in teh room, and only for homework. So, i have to sneek onto NSM in order to post. She should be letting off soon enough, but im under close watch (for the most part) and i hope to be back fairly soon. But, for now, im limited to basically one or two posts before i become paranoid.

[pumpy_heart]

jake3343
I doubt this will change before tomorrow night, so I'm posting it now.

[kotorfanboy]

Alright, some people didn't understand my whole argument that because I know Wrydryn and Jake I am most likely a human. So I'll explain it again:

Alright, I know Wrydryn and Jake in real life. We talked about the wolf game to each other face to face before Nakah said it was against the rules. Nakah said himself, he made it a rule that you can't talk to others in real life about the wolf game because it is so much easier to pick up on body language, and find out what others are. I've had the advantage of talking to people in real life. I found out they were both human, and I assume they both found out I was a human. If you don't trust our word, then at least trust this: if one of us was a wolf, the others would have found out about it. If two of us had been wolves, we still might have found out about it. The fact that none of us posted anything on the forums saying we thought one of the other three were suspicious, is testimony enough that we are all human. If Jake and i had been human and wrydryn a wolf, we would have picked up on it, and posted about it on the topic. We didnt. No one did. Meaning that we were all humans, who all trusted each other. The only scenario in which one of us was a wolf and he got away without it being told to everyone on the forum was if all three of us were wolves, which is an extremely small possibility. It's not 100% proof, just like none of you guys have 100% proof. But it is a higher chance I'm human. If I saw anything suspicious in them, I would have told everyone about it. Because not one of us thought any of the others were suspicous, it means that  we all thought each other were humans. Like I said, thinking someone is a human in real life is much more concrete evidence than thinking someone over the internet is a human. That's all I've got to say. take it or leave it.

[HugoMeister]

I hereby change my vote to Jake3343.

If what you say is indeed true, then I have reason to suspect Jake. I don't think I'll explain it just yet, I want to see how others interpret your claims.

I'm not done you MasterPenguin, don't think that for one second.

[jake3343]

Now I don't know who to vote for 

Hugo, I took back my post that I voted for you in. I have no reason to belief you are not a mason unless other people start claiming to be them.

Pumpy, I thought Hugo told you who the masons were. (Or hinted at them.) That is why I voted for you. Now that Hugo said he didn't tell you, I changed my vote to no one.

I am not going to vote for someone until I have to. I am probably going to vote for master penguin, but I think I should wait a little bit to think some more and visit the chat. Until then, I will vote for no one.

[kotorfanboy]

I would just like to add something to my post. For you nit-picky people like Hugo, my probability of being a human does not increase mathematically, but logically. For lack of a better word, I am logically more probable to be a human.

And how does my post make jake look like a wolf? I must be missing something here...

[blah54]

Alright, I know Wrydryn and Jake in real life. If you don't trust our word, then at least trust this: if one of us was a wolf, the others would have found out about it. If two of us had been wolves, we still might have found out about it. The fact that none of us posted anything on the forums saying we thought one of the other three were suspicious, is testimony enough that we are all human. If Jake and i had been human and wrydryn a wolf, we would have picked up on it, and posted about it on the topic. We didnt. No one did. Meaning that we were all humans, who all trusted each other. The only scenario in which one of us was a wolf and he got away without it being told to everyone on the forum was if all three of us were wolves, which is an extremely small possibility. It's not 100% proof, just like none of you guys have 100% proof. But it is a higher chance I'm human. If I saw anything suspicious in them, I would have told everyone about it. Because not one of us thought any of the others were suspicous, it means that  we all thought each other were humans. Like I said, thinking someone is a human in real life is much more concrete evidence than thinking someone over the internet is a human. That's all I've got to say. take it or leave it.

"if one of us was a wolf, the others would have found out about it."
No, just because you can analyze someone better in real life, does not mean that you're always correctly analyzing them.

there is no testimony that you were all human, it's quite possible that someone could have been fooled... the chance that someone was fooled is not small, if one of you three was a wolf, they would try and hide it unless they wanted to lose the game... which makes little sense to me...

and no you are not "logically more probable to be a human", we have no record (as in chat logs, forum posts) of any discussion between you, jake and wrydryn, so you're asking us to just take your word for it, for all we know, you could be a wolf trying to fool us or you could be a human honestly trying to prove your innocence... frankly we don't know and without any evidence aside from your word, it just makes you, jake and wrydryn look suspicious...

I am going to vote for you kotorfanboy... this continuous returning to this is really making me suspicious of you, makes it seem like you're getting desperate and worried about this one thing and you've tried to defend yourself multiple times...

[kotorfanboy]

I'm only returning to it because people keep asking me about it. Pumpy asked about it, then I tried to explain it, and he just wouldn't listen, so I made a post about it to make sure everyone knew what was going on. And this not proof I am human. There are flaws in the statement. But think of it this way: if you have a wolf down to myself or another person, and I have this, and the other person has no defense, even the slightest amount of a higher probability of myself being human is still something, right?

[Brawler4Ever]

It is; unless your defenses incriminate you, as blah so believes that this does to you.

Do you have anything to say about this Jake?

[jake3343]

I do have stuff to say, Brawler

I do believe that Kotorfanboy is a human, I have analyzed him and asked if he was a wolf. I believe 100% that he is a human and that wydryn was too. I do not think that kotorfanboy's defence incriminates him. Wyrdyn and I both anylyzed him and I believe we did a good job. Both of us were on his tail, and neither of us found any trace of him being a wolf. I find that kotorfanboy has a very good defense. The seer can go ahead and seer us both if he wants to, we will both be green.

I now believe that Hugo is a mason because nobody else has come out as being the mason. Pumpy_Heart isn't really standing out as anything at the moment. Anyway, the votes are:

Jake3343 (me) - 2
Pumpy_heart - 1
Masterpenguin - 1
Hugomeister - 1

at least I think these are what they are. I could have miscounted.

[Brawler4Ever]

If what you say is indeed true, then I have reason to suspect Jake. I don't think I'll explain it just yet, I want to see how others interpret your claims.

Ok, Hugo, are you going to tell us your secret, or are you going to wait until Night?



Who voted for Hugo? 

[kotorfanboy]

MasterPenguin

[Brawler4Ever]

Ah. ok. Thx.