TWG CXIII: Screw Strategy, We Have Money!

[E. Gadd Industries]

You accuse Shy of his reasoning being off, and yet when you are directly asked for reasoning, all you say is

reasoning clear

When obviously it is not bc multiple people have asked you to explain further.

But on another note, so had mikey accused you, you wouldn't have asked "Why are you accusing me?" and instead would have just started accusing him? From your perspective, that works because you know your role, whatever that may be. But think about it from ours. We don't know you're human, even if I had town-read you in an earlier post. So if you, instead of trying to figure out why, immediately start pointing fingers back, that looks more defensive than anything else.

[hoggers]

let me explain in way you american understand

[hoggers]

You accuse Shy of his reasoning being off, and yet when you are directly asked for reasoning, all you say isWhen obviously it is not bc multiple people have asked you to explain further.

But on another note, so had mikey accused you, you wouldn't have asked "Why are you accusing me?" and instead would have just started accusing him? From your perspective, that works because you know your role, whatever that may be. But think about it from ours. We don't know you're human, even if I had town-read you in an earlier post. So if you, instead of trying to figure out why, immediately start pointing fingers back, that looks more defensive than anything else.

you no listen i no speak

[EveningSun720]

We can lynch Hoggers the bully tomorrow/

[davy]

TWG CXIII: Screw Strategy, We Have Money!

1. Wolf
2. Wolf

Wolves know eachother. The wolf team share their money.

Each wolf has a wolfing of his own, meaning that as long as both wolves wolf, two lives will be lost each night phase.

3. Banker - Is told the amount of money all wolf players combined have as well as the amount of money all humans have combined at the end of each night phase.
4. Businessman - Earns NSM$150 at the end of each day phase rather than NSM$100
5. Human
6. Human
7. Human
8. Human

Each player starts with 3 lives. Wolfings and lynchings each take away one life.

The wolf team starts with NSM$300. Each Human starts with NSM$200. At the end of each day phase each Human earns NSM$100 (except the Businessman who earns NSM$150 instead).
Whenever a player dies(=loses all lives) by lynching or wolfing, the wolves will steal all of the killed player's money. If the kill was an item kill, the player responsible for the killing will steal all of the killed players money (if the killed player was the first wolf player to die, only half of the wolf team's money will go to the player responsable).

During the night phase, players can buy items with their money. Passive items will only last for the next day phase and the next night phase. Active items can only be used during the next night phase unless stated otherwise. In any case all items will be useless after one day phase and one night phase after they have been bought.

list of items

Poison Dart (poisons the player shot, causing that player to lose a life at the end of the next night unless that player buys an antidote during that night. Poisoned players will be told that they are poisoned) – NSM$75

Gun (takes one life away from the player shot) – NSM$100

Bulletproof Vest (protects the player from guns and snipers, but not from wolfings and poison darts) – NSM$100

Silent Sniper (takes one lives away from the player shot, can be fired in the middle of any phase. Unless this kills that player, this loss of life will not be mentioned until the end of the next night phase (thereby blending in with other kind of life loss)) – NSM$150

Silver (protects the owner from wolfings) - NSM$150

Antidote (when bought, the player will not lose a life due to poisoning that night) – NSM$150

Bribery (Your vote counts for 2 during the next day phase) – NSM$150

Steal-an-item item (target a player upon buying the item. If that player also buys an item during the same phase, you get that item instead) – NSM$175

Guardian Angel (protects from guns, snipers, poison darts, and wolfing attempts.) – NSM$200

Potion (Restores 1 life at the end of the next day phase. Doesn't work if the player has 3 lives remaining) – NSM$200

Duct Tape (Target a player during the night phase. That player will be unable to perform any action during the next night phase. Actions include wolfing, buying an item, using an item (except duct tape) and painting. Also prevents passive items from working and if the banker is targeted it prevents him from learning the amount of money each team has and if the businessman is targeted he will only receive NSM$100 during that night phase.) – NSM$300

Super Bribery (Your vote counts for 4 during the next day phase) – NSM$300

Reflector (when targeted by a gun, a sniper or a poison dart, the shot is reflected to the user) – NSM$300

Tank (Target a player, that player will lose 3 lives. Also protects the owner from guns, snipers, poison darts, other tanks, wolfing attempts, but not from duct tape. Also prevents the owner from being lynched, in which case the player with the second most votes is lynched instead. Cannot be stolen) – NSM$500, each player can only buy one tank per game.

[close]

Wolves win when all humans are dead.
Humans win when all wolves are dead.
If there is one human alive and one wolf alive with both having one life at the start of the day phase and there is no vote manipulation, the game ends in a tie.

1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. hoggers
3. mikey
4. ShyYoshiGuy
5. E. Gadd Industries
6. Funnygurl555
7. EveningSun720
8. MadDemon

E. Gadd Industries lost two lives. It's now day 2. Day 2 ends July 15th 2:00AM PST, 3:00AM MST, 4:00AM CST, 5:00AM EST, 11:00AM CET.

[ShyYoshiGuy]

Ok, fine, I'm just gonna ignore mikey and hoggers' votes, whatever. They were testing me, I guess. (If only mikey had actually ever said that.) There's no possible way the votes were to save their wolf partner, they would have just voted for the other one of MD and FG. If we say Gadd (Ambushed), mikey (Sniper), and ES (No counterclaim) are town, that leaves hoggers, BDS, FG, and MD. That's six possible pairings, here goes ruling them out.

hoggers x BDS - Made a case against him and voted him. Also arguing about votes and stuff, nah. Off the table.
hoggers x FG, MD - Would have actually saved them instead of voting me. Off the table.
BDS x MD - Voted him for being inactive because of the inactive wolf. Off the table.

That leaves FG x BDS, MD. I already thought FG was wolf last day phase, so this isn't looking good for her. We could go a step further and say MD is the only inactive of those three so it's FG x MD, but that's not really a sure thing. Unless someone like really played me here, it's definitely FG and either BDS or MD. My vote returns to Funnygirl555.

[Funnygurl555]

Ok, fine, I'm just gonna ignore mikey and hoggers' votes, whatever. They were testing me, I guess. (If only mikey had actually ever said that.) There's no possible way the votes were to save their wolf partner, they would have just voted for the other one of MD and FG. If we say Gadd (Ambushed), mikey (Sniper), and ES (No counterclaim) are town, that leaves hoggers, BDS, FG, and MD. That's six possible pairings, here goes ruling them out.

hoggers x BDS - Made a case against him and voted him. Also arguing about votes and stuff, nah. Off the table.
hoggers x FG, MD - Would have actually saved them instead of voting me. Off the table.
BDS x MD - Voted him for being inactive because of the inactive wolf. Off the table.

That leaves FG x BDS, MD. I already thought FG was wolf last day phase, so this isn't looking good for her. We could go a step further and say MD is the only inactive of those three so it's FG x MD, but that's not really a sure thing. Unless someone like really played me here, it's definitely FG and either BDS or MD. My vote returns to Funnygirl555.

something that fucked me over in the last zd game was trying to make associations like this when people were alive. so i had t/t "wolf pairings" i caught 0 wolves o god o god o god

you're assuming that i'm a wolf here, and unfortunately your read is erroneous. that's gonna fuck with how you view the game.

shyyoshiguy i haven't liked the things you've posted so far. i think you've been prodding in the wrong directions, with reasoning that should appear sound. i overlooked this and dropped a wolf read in the last twg i played 'cause i chalked it up to "n00b play" nOt ToDaY

[Funnygurl555]

you're a much more confident player than the first game i played with you.

that's good keep it up

[ShyYoshiGuy]

I just realized I spelled Funnygurl555 wrong, oof.

[ShyYoshiGuy]

something that fucked me over in the last zd game was trying to make associations like this when people were alive. so i had t/t "wolf pairings" i caught 0 wolves o god o god o god

Sorry, would please explain further what this means? What's a t/t "wolf pairing"? And also, what exactly went wrong? What in particular in your pairing strategy didn't work, so I can see if this applies here.

you're assuming that i'm a wolf here, and unfortunately your read is erroneous. that's gonna fuck with how you view the game.

shyyoshiguy i haven't liked the things you've posted so far. i think you've been prodding in the wrong directions, with reasoning that should appear sound. i overlooked this and dropped a wolf read in the last twg i played 'cause i chalked it up to "n00b play" nOt ToDaY

I totally expected that. My conclusion is wrong because obviously you're town so obviously I'm wolf. Valid thing to say, it's fine. That's a vote that actually makes sense, looks at mikey and hoggers.

you're a much more confident player than the first game i played with you.

that's good keep it up

Hehe, ok, ty.

[Funnygurl555]

one wrong assumption snowballed into all of my associations being wack. as in, i town read the godfather, and that lead me to wolf read a town.

the strategy works when you happen to have really good reads, but all too often we scum read a town and vice versa.

[ShyYoshiGuy]

one wrong assumption snowballed into all of my associations being wack. as in, i town read the godfather, and that lead me to wolf read a town.

the strategy works when you happen to have really good reads, but all too often we scum read a town and vice versa.

Yeah, yeah, ok, sure. I guess that makes sense. It's just the best I got, so I'm going with it. Though the possibility of, as I put it, "someone like really playing here" is probably actually higher than I think. The best wolf strategies are the ones that leave you surprised, right? (I made that up, those might actually be the worst strategies, I dunno, don't ask me.) I'm sticking with this for now, the problem is getting everyone else to agree.

[mikey]

you're a much more confident player than the first game i played with you.

that's good keep it up

It's cause he's w and already knows his narrative

[mikey]

Everyone please claim your item purchases and shots from y yesterday

[Funnygurl555]

It's cause he's w and already knows his narrative

honestly that's what i think it is