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[3DS] Pokémon Sun & Pokémon Moon - "Heahea City (Night)" by Jordan Knapp

Started by Zeta, June 01, 2019, 06:15:39 PM

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Zeta

Submission Information:

Series: Pokémon
Game: Pokémon Sun & Pokémon Moon
Console: Nintendo 3DS
Title: Heahea City (Night)
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Jordan Knapp

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SlowPokemon

Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 21, 2016, 02:56:11 PM
Fuck logic, that shit is boring, lame and does not always support my opinions.

SlowPokemon

I accidentally submitted a version of the file without some pitch corrections, so I've made those and reuploaded all files.
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 21, 2016, 02:56:11 PM
Fuck logic, that shit is boring, lame and does not always support my opinions.

Latios212

Hey, nice to see something from you again! (And Pokémon at that ;))

Main thing I have to say about this sheet is to split/tie your notes across beat 3 where applicable.

Other things:
- Bass of m. 5 beat 2.5 should be E. Conversely, beat 3 of m. 6 should be B
- I think it might be worth it to fill out the E and E7 chords out a bit more in m. 5-6
- The melody (er, countermelody really) in measure 10 goes D#-E in beats 1.5-2 instead of C#-D# (the grace note will need adjusting too)
- The first bass note of m. 20 sounds like an F#
- Nudge the dynamics a bit further from the barline/notes stems in m. 21 and 25
- There's a B on beat 1.5 in the right hand of the last measure, not sure if you left that out intentionally? I think it should be present

All relatively small things, great work on this one.
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Quote from: Dudeman on February 22, 2016, 10:16:37 AM
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SlowPokemon

Hey timing on this was lame unfortunately. I'm in Atlanta without my laptop until next Sunday. I'll fix this but it'll be a week or so.
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 21, 2016, 02:56:11 PM
Fuck logic, that shit is boring, lame and does not always support my opinions.

Latios212

My arrangements and YouTube channel!

Quote from: Dudeman on February 22, 2016, 10:16:37 AM
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Latios212

My arrangements and YouTube channel!

Quote from: Dudeman on February 22, 2016, 10:16:37 AM
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SlowPokemon

Thank you son. I ended up taking an impromptu trip to Florida and New Orleans and then back to Atlanta, but I'll be back with my computer tomorrow.
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 21, 2016, 02:56:11 PM
Fuck logic, that shit is boring, lame and does not always support my opinions.

Latios212

Quote from: Latios212 on June 08, 2019, 12:18:32 PM- The first bass note of m. 20 sounds like an F#
Just realized I made a typo there, so I fixed it. Also it seems to bend upwards to G# from F#, so it's fine if you want to keep the G#.

Also - the last system only has 2 measures - so you can easily bump one of the 4-measure systems down to 3 to balance it out better.
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SlowPokemon

Quote from: Latios212 on June 08, 2019, 12:18:32 PM- Bass of m. 5 beat 2.5 should be E. Conversely, beat 3 of m. 6 should be B
- I think it might be worth it to fill out the E and E7 chords out a bit more in m. 5-6
- The melody (er, countermelody really) in measure 10 goes D#-E in beats 1.5-2 instead of C#-D# (the grace note will need adjusting too)
- The first bass note of m. 20 sounds like an F#
- Nudge the dynamics a bit further from the barline/notes stems in m. 21 and 25
- There's a B on beat 1.5 in the right hand of the last measure, not sure if you left that out intentionally? I think it should be present

Okay, so I actually put a lot of thought into the whole "beaming across beat 3," but the problem with this is that as a bossa nova-style piece, it would actually be notated like this (3+3+2) in most jazz scores I'm familiar with. I think that's a decent case for keeping it the way I did it, but I'll let you make the final call. I had it out both ways at various points when I made this.

-I went back with the app "Transcribe" (highly recommend this app) and played it at half speed to double check, and the bass note in m. 5 beat 2.5 is definitely a B, not an E. Same for beat 3 of m. 6, it's an E, it's just articulated softer so the stronger B of the previous note appears to continue.
-The lowered 7th of the E chord isn't actually felt until measure 6, when the guitar plays it in a high octave. The most I could consider doing was add the bass E to these higher chords, but with the lower E already sounded at the strong beats, I felt that this was sort of too thick of a texture. I'm open to a second opinion, though.
-Fixed the countermelody in m. 10.
-Again, went back and double checked, and the first note in the bass phrase of m. 20 is actually a G-sharp.
-Adjusted the position of those dynamics.
-I didn't notice that octave B. I put it into my score, but listening to it, the problem is that as a background voice, it actually interrupts the phrase. The real melody here is the F-sharp at the end of m. 29, followed by the quarter rest, followed by the second F-sharp on the second beat of m. 30. You'll notice that I didn't include the F-sharp in that decorative phrase before the repeat, and I think I'd rather keep the B out of it, if only because on piano, it would be difficult to voice it convincingly in the middle of the phrase.

Quote from: Latios212 on August 07, 2019, 07:34:37 PMJust realized I made a typo there, so I fixed it. Also it seems to bend upwards to G# from F#, so it's fine if you want to keep the G#.

Also - the last system only has 2 measures - so you can easily bump one of the 4-measure systems down to 3 to balance it out better.

-Gotcha. Yeah, I think G-sharp is definitely the dominant pitch here.
-I've spaced the measures as you suggested.

Edit: Also, sorry for taking so long with this LOL
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 21, 2016, 02:56:11 PM
Fuck logic, that shit is boring, lame and does not always support my opinions.

Latios212

Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 09, 2019, 10:15:35 AMOkay, so I actually put a lot of thought into the whole "beaming across beat 3," but the problem with this is that as a bossa nova-style piece, it would actually be notated like this (3+3+2) in most jazz scores I'm familiar with. I think that's a decent case for keeping it the way I did it, but I'll let you make the final call. I had it out both ways at various points when I made this.
Yeah I still think it would be best beaming across beat 3, especially given that the melody doesn't conform to a 3+3+2 pattern (if I'm understanding you right). If you have some examples of those jazz scores you mentioned though, would be happy to look at them (this is something I'm not very familiar with).

Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 09, 2019, 10:15:35 AM-I went back with the app "Transcribe" (highly recommend this app) and played it at half speed to double check, and the bass note in m. 5 beat 2.5 is definitely a B, not an E. Same for beat 3 of m. 6, it's an E, it's just articulated softer so the stronger B of the previous note appears to continue.
Whoops, my bad

Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 09, 2019, 10:15:35 AM-The lowered 7th of the E chord isn't actually felt until measure 6, when the guitar plays it in a high octave. The most I could consider doing was add the bass E to these higher chords, but with the lower E already sounded at the strong beats, I felt that this was sort of too thick of a texture. I'm open to a second opinion, though.
Ah I meant to suggest more specifically including the B in those chords in m. 5-6. It felt a bit strange to me going from triads in the previous measure to open sixths in the next. Up to you, though.

Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 09, 2019, 10:15:35 AM-Fixed the countermelody in m. 10.
Cool. Did you mean to write in Dn instead of Cn for the grace note?

Quote from: SlowPokemon on August 09, 2019, 10:15:35 AM-I didn't notice that octave B. I put it into my score, but listening to it, the problem is that as a background voice, it actually interrupts the phrase. The real melody here is the F-sharp at the end of m. 29, followed by the quarter rest, followed by the second F-sharp on the second beat of m. 30. You'll notice that I didn't include the F-sharp in that decorative phrase before the repeat, and I think I'd rather keep the B out of it, if only because on piano, it would be difficult to voice it convincingly in the middle of the phrase.
I did think it sounded a bit empty there with a rest on the whole first beat, but I see what you mean by it being another voice. I'll leave it up to you.

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Edit: Also, sorry for taking so long with this LOL
Everything else looks good. No worries :P
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Quote from: Dudeman on February 22, 2016, 10:16:37 AM
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SlowPokemon

Thanks. SlowPokemon preparing a master's recital + SlowPokemon teaching Music Theory I + SlowPokemon in research paper hell = slow arrangement by slow

I'll get around to this
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 21, 2016, 02:56:11 PM
Fuck logic, that shit is boring, lame and does not always support my opinions.

SlowPokemon

-I beamed according to the metric accents through this piece, which after a lot of careful consideration, resulted in certain measures (not very many, only in mm. 2, 4, and similar places) not being rebeamed. The reason for this is because the desired result of the metric accent is syncopation, which according to any music theory textbook I've ever seen, is usually beamed in this way. Overall, my desired result here was to make the sheet cleaner and easier to read according to the beats.

-Filled out the LH chords in mm. 5-6 as requested

-Good catch, the Cn has been changed to Dn

If the beaming still is not up to how you'd like it, anyone has my permission to change it. At this point, I don't want to spend any more time with it because I feel pretty confident about all of my decisions regarding that.
Quote from: Tobbeh99 on April 21, 2016, 02:56:11 PM
Fuck logic, that shit is boring, lame and does not always support my opinions.

Latios212

Cool cool. I still don't really agree with the beaming but will wait for another updater to weigh in on that.
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Quote from: Dudeman on February 22, 2016, 10:16:37 AM
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