TWG CXI: How Do I Title This Game Without Offending Anyone

[Olimar12345]

When does this game end

[davy]

TWG CXI: How Do I Title This Game Without Offending Anyone?

Spoiler

7 players

This is not quite a werewolf game, but a similar secret identity game. As such, there will be no wolfings and lynchings

1 Hitler
2 Fascists

Fascists know each other and who Hitler is. Hitler does not know who the Fascists are

4 Liberals

Rather than day and night phases, this game has a Nomination Phase (24 hours), an Election Phase (48 hours), a Legislation Phase (48 hours) and an Executive Action Phase (24 hours). Phases will end early if all actions during that phase have been executed.

There is also a deck of 17 policy cards, consisting of 6 Liberal Policies and 11 Fascist Policies, which is randomnized. Enacting a certain number of these policies is one of the win conditions in this game.

At the start of the game, a random player becomes the Presidential Candidate. It is publicly revealed who is the Presidential Candidate


Nomination Phase

At the start of the Nomination Phase (except the first one) the player following the previous Presidential Candidate on the player list becomes Presidential Candidate

During the Nomination Phase the Presidential Candidate nominates a Chancelor Candidate by bolding that player's name in the topic.

The Presidential Candidate cannot nominate himself. He can also not nominate the current President or the current Chancelor

Afterwards, the game continues to the Election phase


Election Phase

During the Election Phase, all players, including the candidates, state wether they want these candidates to be the next government, by voting yes or no. This vote can be placed either in a PM or in the topic, but at the end of the phase, everyones vote is revealed publicly. Insta's do not apply, and votes cannot be changed.

If the majority votes yes, the Presidential Candidate becomes the President and the Chancelor Candidate becomes the Chancelor. The govenments failed counter resets to 0. The game then moves on to the Legislation Phase.

If the majority votes no or if there is a tie, no new government is elected, and the government failed counter goes up by 1. If the government failed counter reaches 3, it resets to 0, the President and the Chancelor lose their titles, and the top card of the policy deck is enacted. If a Fascist Policy is enacted, no power is given to the President, and the game does not move on to the Executive Action Phase. Regardless of the current goverment failed counter, the game moves on to the Nomination Phase (Legislation Phase and Executive Action Phase are skipped).


Legislation Phase

During the Legislation Phase, neither the President nor the Chancelor are allowed to communicate with other players. This means they cannot post in the Topic (except for vetoing), cannot send PM's (except to the host) and cannot participate in the discord server .

At the start of the Legislation phase, the President is dealt the top 3 cards of the Policy deck by PM from the Host.

Within the first 24 hours of the Legislation Phase, the President discards one of these Policies face-down (by PM'ing the host).

The host then sends the remaining two policies to the Chancelor by PM.

The Chancelor then discards another one of the Policies face-down (by PM'ing the host). If the Chancelor has veto power, he may also bold in the topic: I wish to veto these policies. If the President then PM's the host saying that he agrees to the veto, both policies are discarded and no policies are enacted.

At the end of the phase, the host publicly reveals which policy wasn't discarded and that policy is enacted. If a Fascist Policy is enacted (except for the first one), the game moves on to the Executive Action Phase. Otherwise, that phase is skipped and the game moves on to the next Nomination Phase.


Executive Action Phase

During the Executive Action Phase, the President gains a power that he can use during this phase by bolding the name of the target in the topic. The kind of power depends on the number of Fascist Policies enacted.

1 Fascist Policy: Nothing
2 Fascist Policies: Seer (cannot be the player that was seered before)
3 Fascist Policies: Special Election*
4 Fascist Policies: Vigi
5 Fascist Policies: Vigi. Also, the Chancelor permanently gains veto power

*Special Election means that the President choses the next Presidential Candidate rather than it being random. This Presidential Candidate can nominate anyone but himself as Chancelor Candidate, even the President or the Chancelor. The Presidential Candidate thereafter is the player following the President that gained the Special Election power.


There are no cardflips in this game.
If at any point there are less than three cards in the policy deck, those cards are shuffled together with the discarded policies to form the new policy deck.

Win Conditions

Liberals win by enacting 5 Liberal Policies, or by killing Hitler.
Fascists and Hitler win by enacting 6 Fascist Policies or when Hitler becomes Chancelor and at least 3 Fascist Policies have been enacted.

[close]

1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Brawler4Ever
3. Olimar12345 President
4. mikey
5. Nana1Popo2
6. ShyYoshiGuy
7. BrainyLucario Chancelor

Failed Governments: 0

Liberal Policies enacted: 2
Fascist Policies enacted: 3

Policies left in deck: 12

A Fascist Policy has been enacted. It's now Executive Action Phase 5. Olimar12345 may chose the next Presidential Candidate.  Executive Action Phase 5 ends at latest December 2nd 2:00PM PST, 3:00PM MST,  4:00PM CST, 5:00PM EST, 11:00PM CET

[davy]

When does this game end

We can put it to vote.

It may be better to just replace you and Brainy, but then we would need to have replacements.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

A Fascist Policy has been enacted. It's now Executive Action Phase 5. Olimar12345 may chose the next Presidential Candidate.  Executive Action Phase 5 ends at latest December 2nd 2:00PM PST, 3:00PM MST,  4:00PM CST, 5:00PM EST, 11:00PM CET

So what happened here?

[Olimar12345]

So what happened here?

I got three reds and gave two to Brainy.


This game is long and boring as hell. I'd vote to surrender if it means ending early.

[Brawler4Ever]

This game is really long, but I'm enjoying it. I have no preference whether we continue playing or not.

If BDS was telling the truth, then there was 1 more liberal card in the deck. If Olimar was telling the truth, then there were 2 remaining liberal cards. Assuming that everybody else was telling the truth, anyway.

For Olimar to have received 3 fascist policies AND been telling the truth earlier, both of those liberal cards would have had to have been in the bottom 2 cards. Not impossible, but highly unlikely to miss both liberal cards during that phase.

I'm of the opinion that Olimar is fascist. BDS is liberal, as is n1.

[mikey]

yup olimar is a fascist
likely even with brainy lol
I don't see BDS/Olimar as being binary though, I think they could still be fascists together, so that means shy and BDS are still up for debate

[BlackDragonSlayer]

yup olimar is a fascist
likely even with brainy lol
I don't see BDS/Olimar as being binary though, I think they could still be fascists together, so that means shy and BDS are still up for debate

how convenient you suddenly change your mind

[ShyYoshiGuy]

how convenient you suddenly change your mind

^

[BlackDragonSlayer]

I'm wondering if Noc and Olimar are acting as obvious fascists to try and distract everybody else from Hitler, who in this case, would be laying low. If that's what's going on, then their plan would be working.

[BrainyLucario]

I'm here still.

[BrainyLucario]

And yeah I received two fascist cards

[Brawler4Ever]

I'm wondering if Noc and Olimar are acting as obvious fascists to try and distract everybody else from Hitler, who in this case, would be laying low. If that's what's going on, then their plan would be working.

Not really, at least for me. Hitler's been my main focus. My reasoning before was that if you were fascist, you would be able to give Hitler advice. In normal Secret Hitler, Hitler would try to lay low. But this isn't the same form of game, so that's not essentially true. The meta here is different, because there is no meta.

That being said, I do agree. If what you're saying about Olimar and mikey being the fascist pair is true, that narrows down the options of who Hitler is greatly. I'm not 100% on mikey being a fascist because there's no hard evidence against him, but it makes sense with the meta. If Olimar and mikey are the fascist pair, then Hitler is possibly somebody laying low. That leaves (in my mind) shy, n1, and brainy as possible players who are Hitler. According to BDS, n1 is liberal, so we can rule them out. Brainy has only ever received fascist policies, and Shy has only ever gotten liberal policies. So neither of them have been tested, and it's too late to do so now.

I think right now our best bet is to not make Shy, Brainy, or Olimar chancellor. I feel like no matter what else, we won't lose the game from nominating Hitler as chancellor by avoiding these 3.

In the mean time, Olimar needs to select the next president.

[Olimar12345]

brawler cus he pm'd me and asked nicely. Also, does this phase have to last a whole 24 hours?

[davy]

TWG CXI: How Do I Title This Game Without Offending Anyone?

Spoiler

7 players

This is not quite a werewolf game, but a similar secret identity game. As such, there will be no wolfings and lynchings

1 Hitler
2 Fascists

Fascists know each other and who Hitler is. Hitler does not know who the Fascists are

4 Liberals

Rather than day and night phases, this game has a Nomination Phase (24 hours), an Election Phase (48 hours), a Legislation Phase (48 hours) and an Executive Action Phase (24 hours). Phases will end early if all actions during that phase have been executed.

There is also a deck of 17 policy cards, consisting of 6 Liberal Policies and 11 Fascist Policies, which is randomnized. Enacting a certain number of these policies is one of the win conditions in this game.

At the start of the game, a random player becomes the Presidential Candidate. It is publicly revealed who is the Presidential Candidate


Nomination Phase

At the start of the Nomination Phase (except the first one) the player following the previous Presidential Candidate on the player list becomes Presidential Candidate

During the Nomination Phase the Presidential Candidate nominates a Chancelor Candidate by bolding that player's name in the topic.

The Presidential Candidate cannot nominate himself. He can also not nominate the current President or the current Chancelor

Afterwards, the game continues to the Election phase


Election Phase

During the Election Phase, all players, including the candidates, state wether they want these candidates to be the next government, by voting yes or no. This vote can be placed either in a PM or in the topic, but at the end of the phase, everyones vote is revealed publicly. Insta's do not apply, and votes cannot be changed.

If the majority votes yes, the Presidential Candidate becomes the President and the Chancelor Candidate becomes the Chancelor. The govenments failed counter resets to 0. The game then moves on to the Legislation Phase.

If the majority votes no or if there is a tie, no new government is elected, and the government failed counter goes up by 1. If the government failed counter reaches 3, it resets to 0, the President and the Chancelor lose their titles, and the top card of the policy deck is enacted. If a Fascist Policy is enacted, no power is given to the President, and the game does not move on to the Executive Action Phase. Regardless of the current goverment failed counter, the game moves on to the Nomination Phase (Legislation Phase and Executive Action Phase are skipped).


Legislation Phase

During the Legislation Phase, neither the President nor the Chancelor are allowed to communicate with other players. This means they cannot post in the Topic (except for vetoing), cannot send PM's (except to the host) and cannot participate in the discord server .

At the start of the Legislation phase, the President is dealt the top 3 cards of the Policy deck by PM from the Host.

Within the first 24 hours of the Legislation Phase, the President discards one of these Policies face-down (by PM'ing the host).

The host then sends the remaining two policies to the Chancelor by PM.

The Chancelor then discards another one of the Policies face-down (by PM'ing the host). If the Chancelor has veto power, he may also bold in the topic: I wish to veto these policies. If the President then PM's the host saying that he agrees to the veto, both policies are discarded and no policies are enacted.

At the end of the phase, the host publicly reveals which policy wasn't discarded and that policy is enacted. If a Fascist Policy is enacted (except for the first one), the game moves on to the Executive Action Phase. Otherwise, that phase is skipped and the game moves on to the next Nomination Phase.


Executive Action Phase

During the Executive Action Phase, the President gains a power that he can use during this phase by bolding the name of the target in the topic. The kind of power depends on the number of Fascist Policies enacted.

1 Fascist Policy: Nothing
2 Fascist Policies: Seer (cannot be the player that was seered before)
3 Fascist Policies: Special Election*
4 Fascist Policies: Vigi
5 Fascist Policies: Vigi. Also, the Chancelor permanently gains veto power

*Special Election means that the President choses the next Presidential Candidate rather than it being random. This Presidential Candidate can nominate anyone but himself as Chancelor Candidate, even the President or the Chancelor. The Presidential Candidate thereafter is the player following the President that gained the Special Election power.


There are no cardflips in this game.
If at any point there are less than three cards in the policy deck, those cards are shuffled together with the discarded policies to form the new policy deck.

Win Conditions

Liberals win by enacting 5 Liberal Policies, or by killing Hitler.
Fascists and Hitler win by enacting 6 Fascist Policies or when Hitler becomes Chancelor and at least 3 Fascist Policies have been enacted.

[close]

1. BlackDragonSlayer
2. Brawler4Ever Presidential Candidate
3. Olimar12345 President
4. mikey
5. Nana1Popo2
6. ShyYoshiGuy
7. BrainyLucario Chancelor

Failed Governments: 0

Liberal Policies enacted: 2
Fascist Policies enacted: 3

Policies left in deck: 12

Brawler is the next Presidential Candidate. He may nominate anyone but himself as the next Chancelor Candidate. It's now Special Nomination Phase. Special Nomination Phase ends at latest December 3rd 11:00AM PST, 12:00PM MST,  1:00PM CST, 2:00PM EST, 8:00PM CET