TWG CVI: It's Been a Long Time Coming [Game Thread]

[ThatHiddenCharacter]

Also, can everyone but Greg, Brainy and FA (because I already know their lean) post what their lean on Tragsdegi was before he was lynched?

I thought he was human. Not for any logical reason, I just felt that he was human in my gut.

[FireArrow]

"Safety" on bds since I may or may not be extremely inactive here on out.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

Unfortunately, he now has a magical power called "I am immune to lynching whenever I argue with someone because of what happened with toby."

i mean

that's also what happens when you argue the way you do

There are several reasons why I decided to vote Tras over THC. One reason being that with THC, It's easier for me to tell what he is as the phases goes on, Tras not so much. Tras has a way of getting under my skin in these games and I can never read him right. From what I gathered concerning Tras's posts, he was either trying to slide under the radar and just talk about game mechanics. THC actually tried to point out stuff, though he's not doing the best of jobs

I still don't buy it; plus, it's usually not a good thing to create a KitB so close to the end of the phase, knowing of the likelihood that nobody else will come on to change their vote. That doesn't excuse anybody else for contributing to the giant one-vote KitB, but your actions are still inexcusable.

"Safety" on bds since I may or may not be extremely inactive here on out.

:morton2:

I know I said I was gonna vote for you, but THC is probably the better lynch.

[BrainyLucario]

Could someone explain to me why we're voting this early? We still have like 44 hours left.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

To hopefully avoid last phase's fiasco??

[ThatHiddenCharacter]

Not voting last minute =/= voting first thing. I can understand FA voting early because he said he might be extremely inactive, but there was no reason for you to vote this early BDS. We can still avoid what happened last phase without voting so early in the phase. For example, I really want to vote for you right now because of my previous suspicions with the added rashness you just exhibited, but I'm gonna wait to vote in case something happens to change my mind on who is most likely a wolf.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

Not voting last minute =/= voting first thing. I can understand FA voting early because he said he might be extremely inactive, but there was no reason for you to vote this early BDS. We can still avoid what happened last phase without voting so early in the phase. For example, I really want to vote for you right now because of my previous suspicions with the added rashness you just exhibited, but I'm gonna wait to vote in case something happens to change my mind on who is most likely a wolf.

My instinct tell me to vote for FireArrow, but that would only exaggerate the KitB. At the risk of seeming like I'm buddying up to davy even more (as FireArrow claims), I'll vote for THC. If by some chance you aren't a wolf, then I'll be placing a FireArrow vote nice and early next day so I won't have to face the same dilemma.

like do you even read

except you weren't lynched so now it's a vote for you

[BlackDragonSlayer]

And beside, THC, what's wrong with voting early?

[ThatHiddenCharacter]

Voting early (if enough people vote for the same person) can lead to the wolves bandwagoning and causing a mislynch before any beneficial discussion can start. And voting early doesn't prevent a kitb either, so what I said still stands.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

Voting early (if enough people vote for the same person) can lead to the wolves bandwagoning and causing a mislynch before any beneficial discussion can start. And voting early doesn't prevent a kitb either, so what I said still stands.

The first point isn't true (and I don't know where you're getting it from; it seems strangely paranoid), and the second point is a misunderstanding of what I was talking about: reread the quote and see if you understand it better on reread.

[ThatHiddenCharacter]

The first point isn't true (and I don't know where you're getting it from; it seems strangely paranoid)

Right now it takes 4 votes for an insta. You have already placed a vote on me, and we already know where davy stands on that subject, so he could also place a vote on me early. Assuming none of us are wolves, the two wolves could easily cause an insta by voting for me, and could also easily play it off as "he was being very suspicious" and "not realizing it would be an insta". Of course, that's only if both you and Davy are human, which is a 1 out of 3 chance (I think, it's too late to match right now. 2 out of 3 would be the chance for one of you to be human.)

the second point is a misunderstanding of what I was talking about: reread the quote and see if you understand it better on reread.

Are you referring to the fact that if I flipped human you would go for FA next?

[BlackDragonSlayer]

Right now it takes 4 votes for an insta. You have already placed a vote on me, and we already know where davy stands on that subject, so he could also place a vote on me early. Assuming none of us are wolves, the two wolves could easily cause an insta by voting for me, and could also easily play it off as "he was being very suspicious" and "not realizing it would be an insta". Of course, that's only if both you and Davy are human, which is a 1 out of 3 chance (I think, it's too late to match right now. 2 out of 3 would be the chance for one of you to be human.)

I mean, that's pretty paranoid. It's incredibly unlikely that there will be an insta. I think you're just faltering because you know you're one of the most likely lynch candidates and you want to try to stall some of that steam and hope I pick up as a lynch target.

Are you referring to the fact that if I flipped human you would go for FA next?

My instinct tell me to vote for FireArrow, but that would only exaggerate the KitB.

so I won't have to face the same dilemma.

the whole point of me voting early is so that a huge kitb doesn't form from people who are more flaky with their votes and we get another tras lynch

[ThatHiddenCharacter]

I mean, that's pretty paranoid. It's incredibly unlikely that there will be an insta.

I'm actually just that paranoid a person. I trust few people and rarely take risks. In real life and in games. It's really unhealthy.

[BrainyLucario]

the whole point of me voting early is so that a huge kitb doesn't form from people who are more flaky with their votes and we get another tras lynch

Day one votes are usually flakey, but I like your reasoning. Also what was your read on Tras before he was lynched? I'm guessing it was a human lean but I want to be sure

I'm actually just that paranoid a person. I trust few people and rarely take risks. In real life and in games. It's really unhealthy.

I can back this up, the Seerious Moonlight TWG revealed this too me when he refused to trust my Andy claim despite anything I said.

[Greg]

Thought THC/Brainy was a viable pairing for me to consider lynching today but they've been echoing each other way too much for wolf partners who are at all conscious of distancing each other.

I'm going to vote for BDS for now: I mostly agree with the arguments FA brought against him (the initial argument against him was pretty weaksauce but I don't think BDS acquitted himself well in the following discussion) and I also thought his suspicion list (FA, THC, Brainy) was pretty bad: THC and Brainy seem like lynchbait and FA reads to me a lot more like his human self than last game, particularly his aggressiveness. Plus he later backed off, said that he could see FA as a "bullheaded human", and didn't vote for him, which doesn't read to me as human BDS at all.