TWG CVI: It's Been a Long Time Coming [Game Thread]

[mastersuperfan]

jesus I've spent over the last hour straight on this game and I have work to do sorry guys I'm probably not gonna get to that other post tonight G_G

(but I will check in periodically and maybe respond a little here or there based on what people think about my post against Brainy)

[FireArrow]

I don't have much to add to your post other than to say I agree with most of it. I just know I've been on Brainy's case before for similar reasons and he just ended up being a jumpy PR. If he's human this game, he's garunteed to be a PR, which makes me a little unsure.

[ThatHiddenCharacter]

(but I will check in periodically and maybe respond a little here or there based on what people think about my post against Brainy)

A lot of good points. I will say that all of these are pretty normal Brainy behavior, but usually it's on a much lower level. Except for maybe a few special cases... (Yes, I'm still salty about the cookie. And yes, I know I made a bad play myself that game.) I still don't think it's best to lynch him day one, though. I think he should get some time to respond to your big post and any people's responses to it, and it doesn't seem like there'll be enough time to do that before phase change. Not to mention the fact that we have a kitb right now. If push comes to shove (and if I'm online), I'll gladly change my vote to avoid it. But I still think Brainy would probably be better for a day 2 lynch if he is still acting suspicious by then.

[mastersuperfan]

I don't have much to add to your post other than to say I agree with most of it. I just know I've been on Brainy's case before for similar reasons and he just ended up being a jumpy PR. If he's human this game, he's garunteed to be a PR, which makes me a little unsure.

I mean also the thing this game tho is that since everyone's a PR it doesn't necessarily make any particular PR more valuable/special than the rest so he shouldn't have any reason to be jumpy if he's in the same boat as all the other humans...

[BlackDragonSlayer]

I mean also the thing this game tho is that since everyone's a PR it doesn't necessarily make any particular PR more valuable/special than the rest so he shouldn't have any reason to be jumpy if he's in the same boat as all the other humans...

But would Brainy be aware of that?

[BrainyLucario]

Points against Brainy:

First of all, this. He keeps acting like he's going to be lynched first thing—which as a wolf could be a (admittedly weak, but this is Brainy we're talking about) attempt to avoid being "mistakenly" lynched by humans first day because of his poor playing. Maybe this falls under Brainy's general playstyle, but this doesn't seem like a thing he'd do game after game and quite frankly I just see zero reason for any decent human to say this. You're supposed to be helping the team, not complaining about how everyone on your own team will turn against you.

Dude, you do realize this was me joking around at the start right? I do that almost every game. I have a right to be salty about last game, given that Toby posted that big post against me at a time where J couldn't defend myself.

Not only are you complaining about the post count, but you make it sound like you don't plan to contribute anything at all in any more posts you make—just because you don't want to. A human would want to, naturally? If you really are human then don't just be like "I don't feel like participating, do I really have to play?" You literally contributed nothing up to there and yet you still question the fact that you're expected to contribute more to keep playing? Are you serious?

Again, this is a serious misread of this post. I wanted to play, I just didn't think I'd be able to stay in the game if the post limit was 5 posts per phase since I was doing graduation stuff the first night. I found out later that it was cycles ( even asked Noc to make sure) to my relief. This part of your reasoning is off on so many levels.

I vaguely remember someone in the 100th saying that E. Gadd seemed human even though he wasn't particularly inactive just because he was always saying that he'd keep checking in even though he was busy. Here, you're not even like "I'll try my best to participate." You're just like "I don't really want to play this game but I just needed some way not to lose the game." You invest none of the effort that a serious human player actually would—and to me that gives off the red flag of a wolf who's trying to slide under the radar under the premise that they're simply just too busy to play.

Again, see above. I'm not trying to slide under the radar, I just wasn't going to be able to have Internet access.

The fact of the matter is is that you yourself called your post about graduation an excuse—a rather negatively connoted word that suggests that it's not the truth, but instead something that you said in order to get yourself out of a tough spot of appearing wolfy by being off topic. I don't see any reason why a human player would feel the need to justify their own previous post in such a manner—especially when your post got called out for not being contributory you do nothing but defend it and ask for examples from a previous game and not actually GET YOURSELF on topic with the game like you've just been warned to do. To me this is all signs of a wolf trying to distract the focus away from the focus of the conversation at hand.

Well it was an excuse, An excuse to not get kicked from the game. Seriously are you feeling okay MSF?  It's starting to feel like your just restating the same points but taking various liberties in how you interpreted a two sentence post's defense and follow up question. I like asking those types of questions for reaction tests. Plus it generally seemed odd since I didn't really remember FireArrow acting like that.

Since when should you be worried about being kicked from the game if you're a legitimate human player who can just PLAY THE GAME LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PLAYED? Yes it's the first time there's a post count but it's not the first time you're expect to, like, make posts??? For an invested human player five posts should really be nothing major... this to me looks like someone who just wishes they could draw less attention to themselves than they're explicitly obligated to do now—since, after all, in previous games, players like FA and BDS draw quite a bit of attention to themselves while inactives can rather easily slide under the lynch radar.

Hey yeah sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't think anyone's a normal human. And your really falling back on the whole under the radar approach again, huh?  I have a reason for wanting to be alive just like you and everyone else in this elevator. So sue me if I want to make sure I'm not going to be kicked when I can't post.

I don't particularly disagree with FA when he says that this gives off a human read (potentially). But it does absolutely nothing to change the fact that you reek of suspicion.

I imagine I'm coming off as overly aggressively critical towards Brainy, but to be perfectly honest his poor playing so far has so thoroughly pissed me off that I really don't have an easy time imagining him as human. If you have anything LEGITIMATE or HELPFUL to CONTRIBUTE in order to support the argument that you're human then by all means feel free to—but you've been given a night and half a day phase to do it and the only thing you've really done is freak out about being lynched/cut. This just looks to me like a frantic wolf who doesn't know how to play like a human and hopes to make themselves seem legitimately worried about the rules of the game so they don't lose the game for the wolf team.

Repeatyourself.mp3 Honestly this whole post is just the same reason but from different focus points

[BrainyLucario]

Anyways I've got internet again so expect me to be a lot more active in the game.

[Greg]

Think I'm just gonna vote for Trasdegi due to the stuff I went over in my previous post: in addition, a lot of other players are coming across as human to me, whereas Tras appears to be trying to slide under the radar by posting very little with respect to suspicions of other players (all of his posts are about game mechanics). This seems pretty similar to what happened last game to me.

As for the other players:
I agree with the points against Brainy but he seems to be an easy lynch target in general so I'm hesitant to jump him right away. I've got a human read on FA,THC and MSF, and a marginal human read on BDS (mostly cause instigating an argument with FA at this point seems kinda ill-advised for a wolf). Davy's vote seemed pretty curious to me since he directly references his suspicion list, indicating that it was on his mind, but then contradicted himself in the same post by voting for THC. This is actually a human read for me, since I think wolves would be more careful to be consistent and methodical with their suspicions whereas humans are more likely to change their minds about suspicions without too much deep thought.

[ThatHiddenCharacter]

Hate to be a Debby-Downer, but that vote still left us in a kitb. Unless I'm completely misunderstanding something and they aren't a thing this game, but I doubt that. I don't wanna change my vote quite yet in case BDS or Brainy make a vote (and BDS seems to have some very strong opinions, so it's a bit odd he hasn't voted yet with only a couple hours til phase change), but I'm not sure if I'll be on in time to change it in case they don't. Unless I missed someone's vote and we're not in a kitb. I wouldn't be surprised if I did that.

[Greg]

the heck there's less time than I thought left

If I gotta I'll change my vote but none of the other cases seem very convincing to me yet. Tbh I skimmed Brainy's defense when I made my previous post but after reading it more closely it seems pretty good to me. I'd be most inclined to switch to BDS at this point I think.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

Hate to be a Debby-Downer, but that vote still left us in a kitb. Unless I'm completely misunderstanding something and they aren't a thing this game, but I doubt that. I don't wanna change my vote quite yet in case BDS or Brainy make a vote (and BDS seems to have some very strong opinions, so it's a bit odd he hasn't voted yet with only a couple hours til phase change), but I'm not sure if I'll be on in time to change it in case they don't. Unless I missed someone's vote and we're not in a kitb. I wouldn't be surprised if I did that.

My instinct tell me to vote for FireArrow, but that would only exaggerate the KitB. At the risk of seeming like I'm buddying up to davy even more (as FireArrow claims), I'll vote for THC. If by some chance you aren't a wolf, then I'll be placing a FireArrow vote nice and early next day so I won't have to face the same dilemma.

[BrainyLucario]

I've been debating between Davy and Tras. Tras makes me the most nervous, since I don't have much to go on from him, but that doesn't necessary mean he's a good lynch. Davy isn't prime lynch but he's making me question his lynch choice given his suspicion list. I'm probably going to reread the thread a couple times before voting, because I could have missed something.

[BlackDragonSlayer]

Davy isn't prime lynch but he's making me question his lynch choice given his suspicion list.

like 80% certain the wolves are between fa, thc, and brainy at this point

[BrainyLucario]

like 80% certain the wolves are between fa, thc, and brainy at this point

That's the spirit.

I reread the chat and noticed two things that I didn't catch the first time: THC is a bit more suspicious that I previously thought. BDS's posts against him do have some good points, and the BDS/FireArrow battle is hot trash mixed with tidbits of good reactions. Noticing this about THC also made me feel more assured on Davy though, and I can kind of see his reasoning for not following his suspicion list especially given that it was made before BDS's posts.

[BrainyLucario]

I've decided to put my vote on Trasdegi for tonight after about 30 minutes of debate between THC, BDS, FireArrow, and Tras.