[NDS] Pokémon HeartGold Version & Pokémon SoulSilver Version - "Dragon's Den (Two Pianos)" by amc

Started by Zeta, March 26, 2024, 08:12:43 AM

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Zeta

Submission Information:

Series: Pokémon
Game: Pokémon HeartGold Version & Pokémon SoulSilver Version
Console: Nintendo DS
Title: Dragon's Den
Instrumentation Two Pianos
Arranger: amc

amc

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Bloop

Hiya! Before I start leaving comments on this sheet, I wanted to make sure if you'll be around to make changes? Your other sub has been archived for inactivity, so I just wanted to make sure ^^

amc

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Bloop

Alrighty! Feel free to re-upload your Super Mario 3D World sheet too, since it was pretty close to being accepted ^^

I have some general comments at first:
-It looks like you've arranged a shaker percussion voice in the L.H. of Piano II, but that voice isn't that overpowering in the original. I think it'd be better to leave it out and focus on some other instruments that add more to the sheet. For example, in m8 the droning voice from m1-7 starts playing a bassline, and in m17 and on, there's a new low string instrument playing a bassline in octaves.
-For Piano I, it's probably best to keep the notes you want the L.H. to play in the L.H., like in m1-7 and in other similar places. Right here it's not that hard to differentiate yet, but in measures like m22 it's hard to see what you want the player to play in which hand. In m17-22, there are some grace notes in the oboe you could add here too.
-Harmonically the piece is kinda ambiguous while at the same time tending towards C#m and G#m at the same time. I think that with all the A#'s in the piece and the fact that most of the bass instruments in the original center around G#, G#m might make more sense (5 sharps)

amc

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Radiak488417

Apologies for the long wait! Nice job arranging this for two pianos.

-Shota Kageyama arranged this particular track, so you should credit him by either adding him to the composer list or adding a separate line with "Arranged by Shota Kageyama" and then "Arranged for piano by amc"

Piano 2 LH m8-16: I'd recommend changing the low drum hits to G#s rather than C#s since G# is the tonic; making it the 4th adds harmonic info that isn't there in the original.

-Piano 1 LH m16: I like the idea of incorporating the conga fill here, but it sounds a bit more chromatic in the original. Maybe change the last 3 notes of it to C#-Cx-D# or E-E#-F#?

-Piano 2 LH m17-31: The bass here isn't just 8th octaves, there are some syncopations and other notes you're missing.

-Piano 1 RH m24, 25, 27, 28 & 29: I'm not hearing the 16ths on beat 1.25 and 2.25 here, and it sounds like the ones on beat 1.5 are G#s instead of D#s.

-Piano 1 RH m26: The 16ths on beats 1.25-1.5 and and 2.25-2.5 both should be D#-G#.

-Piano 1 RH m30 & 31: The 16ths on beats 1.25-1.5 and and 2.25-2.5 should be D#-G# and B-D# respectively.

-Piano 2 RH m24-31: You've made quite an admirable attempt, but believe it or not for the glockenspiel/chimes here I'm actually going to recommend that you take a look at a MIDI rip of this song to figure out the notes (which I've attached below). Why? Several reasons:

1. MIDI rips for DS and other types of sequenced tracks can be a useful tool to check your work against, especially for very dense and complex songs like this one.
2. The glockenspiel is in a pretty low register and has an extremely strong, out-of-tune overtone that overpowers the fundamental pitches, making it very difficult to tell what the actual notes are. All of the notes you have transcribed for this part are actually a 7th lower in the original track's sequence data, which I probably wouldn't have realized without checking it.
3. The part appears to have been composed at random, with no discernable repetition and borderline nonsensical use of notes, and I don't feel like it's worth either of our time to figure it all out by ear and then type up an insanely long post with all the individual corrections lol.

Quote from: Bloop on July 18, 2024, 04:54:28 AMAlrighty! Feel free to re-upload your Super Mario 3D World sheet too, since it was pretty close to being accepted ^^
Also want to make sure you didn't forget about this.