[N64] Star Fox 64 - "Mission Failed" by Fernman

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Submission Information:
Series: Star Fox
Game: Star Fox 64
Console: Nintendo 64
Title: Mission Failed
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Fernman

[Fernman]

[Kricketune54]

•  I think if you wanted for m1-7 you could add a lower RH octave (sounds like those notes are playing to me)
• Might I also suggest this for m7 and m8? This would incorporate the snare rolls from the original (heard up to this point but not represented), but also pulling that Dn up an octave in m8 instead of down. Let me know your thoughts.

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[Fernman]

•  I think if you wanted for m1-7 you could add a lower RH octave (sounds like those notes are playing to me)

That works, added

• Might I also suggest this for m7 and m8? This would incorporate the snare rolls from the original (heard up to this point but not represented), but also pulling that Dn up an octave in m8 instead of down. Let me know your thoughts.

I'm not a fan of turning the piano into a snare-drum-roll-like instrument with those tremolos. the snare is one pitch so to speak, and a 2 note tremolo isn't what I'd prefer.

I reverted the rest of the song back to what is heard, I think I was trying to be too much like the start demos in the prior uploads. Not sure if you want octaves, inverted other otherwise. I'll stick with staccato instead of portato.

[Kricketune54]

That works, added

I don't see this on the files currently for m1-6

I'm not a fan of turning the piano into a snare-drum-roll-like instrument with those tremolos. the snare is one pitch so to speak, and a 2 note tremolo isn't what I'd prefer.

Okay, did want to leave that up to preference, usually people do timpani parts not snares for tremolos when arranging anyway. I would suggest though removing the Dn in the LH of m8 beat 1, and just putting a low F on the bottom. Maybe just make the LH a whole note Gn (current Gn) and a Fn an octave lower, as this is a reachable note combination.

I reverted the rest of the song back to what is heard, I think I was trying to be too much like the start demos in the prior uploads. Not sure if you want octaves, inverted other otherwise. I'll stick with staccato instead of portato.

Okay sounds looks/good from that standpoint of accents. By inverting octaves I assume you refer to which notes are currently ontop of the RH? I am fine as is treating the flute part of the original as the melody.

I would suggest utilizing the timpani pitches as a part of the LH though. I think the LH currently is a bit empty feeling in my opinion. Take this example idea for m9 to first part of m10. You could incorporate that lower harmony part into the LH where possible (looking at m9 4.5 to m10 beat 1)You cannot view this attachment.

• m11 RH beat 3 the An should be a Bn
• m12 RH beat 3 layer 2 add a staccato to this Gn

[Fernman]

I don't see this on the files currently for m1-6

If the 16th pairs are octaves, I can understand reaching the following octave in time. But that looks difficult to play in time, at least for my octave handspan. Not sure what a larger handed player can do. If the 16th pairs are NOT played as octaves, then reaching the next octave in time is a challenge. So I don't find it practical, unless you have a different opinion.

I would suggest though removing the Dn in the LH of m8 beat 1, and just putting a low F on the bottom. Maybe just make the LH a whole note Gn (current Gn) and a Fn an octave lower, as this is a reachable note combination.

a 9th is not reachable for me, For those of us who can't reach the 9th, I wanted another harmonic, so I picked the D. I can add in the F as well, but I still want the D with the player having the option to exclude the F.
I added in a dotted whole note, if that was your intent.

I would suggest utilizing the timpani pitches as a part of the LH though. I think the LH currently is a bit empty feeling in my opinion. Take this example idea for m9 to first part of m10. You could incorporate that lower harmony part into the LH where possible (looking at m9 4.5 to m10 beat 1)

Key words are "where possible." That's a 10th. In my mind that is not possible for me, but I supposed if desired, one could play the timpani and the bottom note of the chord.

• m11 RH beat 3 the An should be a Bn • m12 RH beat 3 layer 2 add a staccato to this Gn

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[Kricketune54]

If the 16th pairs are octaves, I can understand reaching the following octave in time. But that looks difficult to play in time, at least for my octave handspan. Not sure what a larger handed player can do. If the 16th pairs are NOT played as octaves, then reaching the next octave in time is a challenge. So I don't find it practical, unless you have a different opinion.

This is definitely true for the two sixteenth notes at the end of m1,3,5. But the other notes could be reasonably played if there was a lower octave added. But I'll leave it up to you, my reasoning being that it is rather quiet anyway in the original.

a 9th is not reachable for me, For those of us who can't reach the 9th, I wanted another harmonic, so I picked the D. I can add in the F as well, but I still want the D with the player having the option to exclude the F.
I added in a dotted whole note, if that was your intent.

Well my comment wasn't based on having a harmonic for the LH, it's that I don't think it is necessary to duplicate the D to C phrase in both hands.

Also, for m7, I'd suggest lowering the Gn's down an octave in the LH. It sounds a little jarring currently the way the depth of the accompaniment goes between m5-7.

Key words are "where possible." That's a 10th. In my mind that is not possible for me, but I supposed if desired, one could play the timpani and the bottom note of the chord.
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Yes the 10th is difficult but should be possible on a good number of keyboards.  To make it easier, you could remove the for example at m9 beat 4.5 and then at 1.0 of m9 and m10 for consistency.

• m17 LH I think the En should be Gn, and then the Fn is Ab for beats 3-4. Also note that 3.0 is incorrectly beamed to 4.0 currently.
• m18 and elsewhere recurring phrase that starts at beat 3.5 and goes to the end of the measure of the LH first layer, this honestly would make for a more consistent accompaniment if it was moved to its original octave in the RH. You could use the same sort of LH pattern that started with m17 with the timpani hits.
• Looking also a bit to accidentals for above mentioned 16th note part, the G# should be Ab - reason being is that it looks a bit cleaner in the key of C major to have Ab's, and not have to use the natural accidental on beat 4.5.

[Fernman]

This is definitely true for the two sixteenth notes at the end of m1,3,5. But the other notes could be reasonably played if there was a lower octave added. But I'll leave it up to you, my reasoning being that it is rather quiet anyway in the original.

How about I put in a harmonic where the unreachable octave would be?

Well my comment wasn't based on having a harmonic for the LH, it's that I don't think it is necessary to duplicate the D to C phrase in both hands.

It may not be necessary, but the LH looses its "weight" if only the Fn is played when the previous measures it was all harmonic notes. I think the Dn gives it some depth. There was a Gn so the song called for some harmony.

Yes the 10th is difficult but should be possible on a good number of keyboards.  To make it easier, you could remove the for example at m9 beat 4.5 and then at 1.0 of m9 and m10 for consistency.

That makes it seem lop sided, I rather include it and leave it up for interpretation/adaptation.

Everything else is implemented.

[Kricketune54]

How about I put in a harmonic where the unreachable octave would be?

I suppose this is fine to do harmonics, but for m4 it would be An not Gn.

It may not be necessary, but the LH looses its "weight" if only the Fn is played when the previous measures it was all harmonic notes. I think the Dn gives it some depth. There was a Gn so the song called for some harmony.

Well if it has to be a harmonic, I suppose this is fine. You could also add an additional Fn an octave up in the 1st voice  Also for this section, the RH G's should be their own whole note voice, and the Dn to Cn should be a separate second voice.

That makes it seem lop sided, I rather include it and leave it up for interpretation/adaptation.

Would jut suggest this alternatively.

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Also, did you mean to keep the rest of the measures m19-24 the same with the 16th's on beat 4.5-4.75, or were you waiting to update that?

• m10, m14 RH beat 4 I don't feel these 8th's are staccatoed
• m18 RH beat 2.5 could add the En under the Gn like all the other measures of this rhythm.
• m19, m21, 23 back to accidentals, the chord for these measures is Db, so the sharps should be the flat versions of these pitches

[Fernman]

I suppose this is fine to do harmonics, but for m4 it would be An not Gn.

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Well if it has to be a harmonic, I suppose this is fine. You could also add an additional Fn an octave up in the 1st voice  Also for this section, the RH G's should be their own whole note voice, and the Dn to Cn should be a separate second voice.

I'll pass on adding the additional Fn,
I changed the voicing as suggested, though not sure which way the stem should point.

Would jut suggest this alternatively.

I left it unchanged.
Assuming it is written for a player who has a comfortable 10 span reach, it wouldn't make sense to drop off the top Bn.
I would rather simplify this than leave it as is if my say had any real weight. My experience here and understanding looking at other ninsheets is that it is written to be as difficult as possible (withing the scope of the composition), but still playable to virtuoso pianists, in order to capture the intent of the composer. I rather not deal with back and forth and extra time in submissions and just leave it up to interpretation.

Also, did you mean to keep the rest of the measures m19-24 the same with the 16th's on beat 4.5-4.75, or were you waiting to update that?

I hear the snare in the same way as in the prior measures, so it is written as intended. The only place this becomes a problem is when  the notes intersect in m19, but the player could decide to play the Db with the RH. Do you have a different suggestion?

The rest are fixed.