[Wii] Kirby's Epic Yarn - "Big-Bean Vine" by mastersuperfan

Started by Zeta, January 18, 2021, 05:30:52 PM

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Zeta

Submission Information:

Series: Kirby
Game: Kirby's Epic Yarn
Console: Nintendo Wii
Title: Big-Bean Vine
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: mastersuperfan

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mastersuperfan

Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 11, 2016, 03:00:36 PMthere's also a huge difference in quality between 2000 songs and 2010 songs
Quote from: Latios212 on February 11, 2016, 03:29:24 PMThe difference between 2000 songs and 2010 songs is 10 songs.

Latios212

- Suggest moving the C# in m. 2 to the RH. Super awkward/unreasonable for the LH to play that chord as written
- Thoughts about putting the first E in m. 3 in the LH similar to the last measure?
- B# in m. 33 I think should be Cn to match RH
- m. 40/48 RH - hear a melody B (octave overlaps with the LH) for beat 4 instead of tied chord
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mastersuperfan

Quote from: Latios212 on March 03, 2021, 03:56:30 PM- Suggest moving the C# in m. 2 to the RH. Super awkward/unreasonable for the LH to play that chord as written
- Thoughts about putting the first E in m. 3 in the LH similar to the last measure?
- B# in m. 33 I think should be Cn to match RH
- m. 40/48 RH - hear a melody B (octave overlaps with the LH) for beat 4 instead of tied chord

Good catches, all fixed. I only hear the B in m48 though, not in m40.
Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 11, 2016, 03:00:36 PMthere's also a huge difference in quality between 2000 songs and 2010 songs
Quote from: Latios212 on February 11, 2016, 03:29:24 PMThe difference between 2000 songs and 2010 songs is 10 songs.

Latios212

Ah gotcha... I think perhaps I wanted it to be there since I hear it as part of the melody which makes sense to have octave doubled.

Anyway, approved! :)
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Static

  • m4-5: Those bass notes sound like they should be an octave down... not that you have to put them there but I think it sounds pretty good in the arrangement.
  • I think I discussed this with you when you first arranged this, but man I still feel like that 2nd chord in m15/23 sounds really empty without the B... like that's the root of the chord, the most important note. Maybe you could make it a rolled chord instead?
  • There's a few extra piano notes in m26 that I think might be worth including, since they borrow some of the percussion's rhythm.
  • The 2nd chord in m35 LH should have the E# as the bottom note, not C#.
  • Maybe it's just me, but m40-55 sound a bit too... top-heavy I think is the word I'm looking for. I think you could have some lower octaves in the LH - this is the climax of the piece after all! I just think the arrival in m40 is a but underwhelming compared to the original.
  • The dotted quarters in m43, 49, and 51 LH should all be tied.
  • The Bb in m63 should be an A# (G#m9b5 chord).

Really good work, this is probably the toughest KEY sheet to arrange.

mastersuperfan

Quote from: Static on March 16, 2021, 11:11:09 AM
  • m4-5: Those bass notes sound like they should be an octave down... not that you have to put them there but I think it sounds pretty good in the arrangement.
I think it sounds too low on the piano when moved down that far... I'd prefer to keep it as is.

Quote from: Static on March 16, 2021, 11:11:09 AM
  • I think I discussed this with you when you first arranged this, but man I still feel like that 2nd chord in m15/23 sounds really empty without the B... like that's the root of the chord, the most important note. Maybe you could make it a rolled chord instead?
I've messed around with this and I honestly like it best with the B omitted. Yes, it is the root of the chord, but when included at the bottom of the chord, it sticks out to me as a jarringly random low note in the middle of the otherwise light and high LH chords. Plus, it's a lot more dissonant combined into a single chord on piano than when it's separated into bass + piano. I think that omitting the B provides the smoothest transition between the preceding and following chords.

Quote from: Static on March 16, 2021, 11:11:09 AM
  • There's a few extra piano notes in m26 that I think might be worth including, since they borrow some of the percussion's rhythm.
It took me a long time to hear these... I tried adding them, but I decided not to keep them because I felt they stuck out too much and didn't fit with the light, free-flowing nature of the rest of the section.

Quote from: Static on March 16, 2021, 11:11:09 AM
  • Maybe it's just me, but m40-55 sound a bit too... top-heavy I think is the word I'm looking for. I think you could have some lower octaves in the LH - this is the climax of the piece after all! I just think the arrival in m40 is a but underwhelming compared to the original.
I went ahead and doubled them an octave above (instead of below), except for m45-47 where I wanted the bass contour to shine through. As with m4-5, I don't like the sound of it when the piano goes too low—it's a light, gentle piece, and I feel like the muddy nature of the piano's lowest notes really interferes with that. I'd also rather keep the parts closer together rather than separating them further.

Quote from: Static on March 16, 2021, 11:11:09 AM
  • The dotted quarters in m43, 49, and 51 LH should all be tied.
I intentionally restruck them to give the piece rhythmic movement on beat 4 and maintain the 6/8 feel to make up for the lack of percussion.

Quote from: Static on March 16, 2021, 11:11:09 AM
  • The 2nd chord in m35 LH should have the E# as the bottom note, not C#.
  • The Bb in m63 should be an A# (G#m9b5 chord).
Nice catches, fixed.

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Quote from: NocturneOfShadow on February 11, 2016, 03:00:36 PMthere's also a huge difference in quality between 2000 songs and 2010 songs
Quote from: Latios212 on February 11, 2016, 03:29:24 PMThe difference between 2000 songs and 2010 songs is 10 songs.

Static

Fair enough I suppose, there's a lot of ways to go about arranging this because of the really wide texture. What you have works and I think represents that light feel you mentioned. I shall accept

Zeta

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