[ARCADE] Frogger - "Main Theme" by LeviR.star

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Submission Information:
Series: Other
Game: Frogger
Console: Arcade
Title: Main Theme
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: LeviR.star

[LeviR.star]

4:37 for the glitched version, 0:08 for the fixed version, courtesy of Chris Cantrell from The Cutting Room Floor.

[LeviR.star]

Bump

[XiaoMigros]

Do I understand correctly that the 'fixed' version cannot be heard in-game? If so, I'm not sure how I feel about it being submitted. Regardless, I don't think first and second endings is the correct way to notate this, I would use bold text instead, above the start of each track, stating what it is. A double barline at the end of the intro would be helpful as well. For m7, the note should be above the staff to avoid the diagonal line intersecting the music.

[Latios212]

Do I understand correctly that the 'fixed' version cannot be heard in-game? If so, I'm not sure how I feel about it being submitted. Regardless, I don't think first and second endings is the correct way to notate this, I would use bold text instead, above the start of each track, stating what it is. A double barline at the end of the intro would be helpful as well. For m7, the note should be above the staff to avoid the diagonal line intersecting the music.

If I understand the performer's note correctly, the in game version exists due to a programming error, and that the "fixed" version is actually the intended version of the music right? If this is the case, I have no problem with this. Real quick, how do we know what is "intended"? Is it the resemblance to the piece that this is based off of?

Agree with Xiao above on notating the form though. Additionally, I would suggest considering moving the performer's note to somewhere on the first page so they have a chance to read it and understand the form before starting to play through it as written.

[LeviR.star]

Apologies for the wait on this; as I was the one who bumped the topic, I feel it was less than responsible of me to take over a week to respond to the feedback.

Do I understand correctly that the 'fixed' version cannot be heard in-game? If so, I'm not sure how I feel about it being submitted.

If I understand the performer's note correctly, the in game version exists due to a programming error, and that the "fixed" version is actually the intended version of the music right? If this is the case, I have no problem with this. Real quick, how do we know what is "intended"? Is it the resemblance to the piece that this is based off of?

That's right. Left unmodified, only a fifth of the song's melody is on-beat (the error becomes noticeable around m. 10 & 11) and nearly half of the bass line is cut off. The material that was previously unheard has always been in the original Frogger code, and Chris from The Cutting Room Floor explained to me that restoring it was a relatively simple fix. I recognized the importance of including the "glitched" version everyone has come to know for this sheet, but with all due respect, I cannot in good conscience omit what was essentially lost media until a year ago.

Regardless, I don't think first and second endings is the correct way to notate this, I would use bold text instead, above the start of each track, stating what it is. A double barline at the end of the intro would be helpful as well. For m7, the note should be above the staff to avoid the diagonal line intersecting the music.

Can do, I hope that looks better.

Additionally, I would suggest considering moving the performer's note to somewhere on the first page so they have a chance to read it and understand the form before starting to play through it as written.

This, however, I'm not sure I can pull off. In addition to citing Chris's contribution towards our preservation efforts, I tried to explain everything in the performance note while staying as concise as possible, and since there wasn't enough room within the margins on the first page, I took advantage of the empty space on the second. As a result, I cannot fit the note anywhere else besides the third page, and that's less than ideal.

Everything else has been updated in the sheet, let me know what you two think.

[goldenscruff]

Did you ever think about including a bar of 7/8 either in m7 or m14 or m18, as especially m19-26 is hard to play "half a beat early".

[LeviR.star]

Did you ever think about including a bar of 7/8 either in m7 or m14 or m18, as especially m19-26 is hard to play "half a beat early".

I hadn't, but changing singular bars from 4/4 to 7/8 doesn't account for the offset between the melody and the bassline, all it does it shift the problem down to the left hand. In my opinion, the up-down ostinato does a fine job of establishing where the beat is, and that there's no need to overthink it once there's only one hand playing (should they even decide to perform the glitched version over the restoration).

[Kricketune54]

Having given this a bit of a deeper look, I now understand what's been done here. I think this is a neat idea and makes sense why two versions of this track are present, and honestly having listened to the fixed version I have to chuckle at the glitched song. One very minor thing that jumped out to me:

• I think you could move the "Araiguma Rascal" bit to the "Based On" text section. I don't think it makes sense to have the anime name in the song's title, because this is intended to be the main theme for Frogger, even if it is just lifted from the show.
• What are your thoughts on just saying this is from "Rascal the Raccoon"? If just going by the romaji the anglicized title of the anime is Araiguma Rasukaru (あらいぐまラスカル). "Rascal the Raccoon" is to my understanding the western localization of the name... Araiguma Rasukaru just means Raccoon Rascal
• Additionally, "Rock River e" (or "he", depending on who you ask lol), which is spelled out as ロックリバーヘ in Katakana, could just be called "To Rock River".

Anyway, all this is to say I would recommend putting Based on "To Rock River" from "Rascal the Raccoon", and removing the show from the title of this track. 

Edit:
Should the repeat be visible at the end of m26 glitched version?  And one additional thought, do you think that the restored version should have a repeat, given it would've looped in game?

[Kricketune54]

Just preempting Levi a bit here, but I approve the changes that have been made. We discussed on Discord where the title of the anime will go (in the song credits), and the D.C was clarified to me, as the Frogger music does not loop in game. The D.C is actually functioning to kick the midi back to the beginning, and then go to the fixed version of the track on playback.

[LeviR.star]

Just preempting Levi a bit here, but I approve the changes that have been made. We discussed on Discord where the title of the anime will go (in the song credits), and the D.C was clarified to me, as the Frogger music does not loop in game. The D.C is actually functioning to kick the midi back to the beginning, and then go to the fixed version of the track on playback.

Yup, can confirm all of this. Files are updated, thank you Kricketune!

[XiaoMigros]

Nice work, just one thing before I accept:

Each individual track must have its own time signature, [...] tempo marking, and dynamic indication preceding the track, regardless of length. [...] Measure numbers should reset as a new track begins.

[Latios212]

I think this is fine, that in the formatting guidelines is meant for collections of tracks. This is just one track with an interesting form and it makes sense for the measure numbers to correspond in the two variants.

[XiaoMigros]

Ah, I missed the intro being used for both versions. As for the other stuff, fine by me given your word is law

accepted

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