[MUL] One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2 - "Here Comes the Navy" by Fantastic Ike

Started by Zeta, April 13, 2024, 10:07:04 AM

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Zeta

Submission Information:

Series: Other
Game: One Piece: Pirate Warriors 2
Console: Multiplatform
Title: Here Comes the Navy
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Fantastic Ike

Fantastic Ike

A bit more ambitious of a submission than my other sheet, but compared to some of the stuff I've put through it shouldn't be too bad. I think the main issue is playability. I don't play piano so it seems like it'll be difficult but doable. If not...then I'll have to severely pare back some of the sections. This is an older sheet I've touched up so there might still be some cracks here or there, but I did really do my best to put it up to my current standards. Anyway this series has some awesome music and I'm hoping to put some more up there.


Kricketune54

Sorry for a bit of a wait here.

• I counted out the tempo to be just q= 150 flat
• m5-m7, and m75-77 LH beat 2 you could add lower octaves to these C's or Gn's above
• m6  LH 4.0 hearing no Eb above, on 4.66 (last note) hearing Dn instead of Eb
• m8 RH hearing An on beat 1 and Bb beat 3, can add to the clusters
• m20 LH top notes of beat 1.66 sounds like it shifts to F# as well like the RH. I would review a few other parts like m24, m28, m32 beat 1 for similar pitch shifts.
• m26 and m30 RH beat 3 the pitches are Eb Gn Bb

• m28 LH 1.66 fix the top tie to flip upwards.
• m40 LH beat 1 F# instead of Gn. Then on m41 1.66 LH F# instead of Gn
• m42 RH beat 1 Ab instead of An
• m46 and m50 RH can write Bb as A# on beat 1
• m51,  m55, m59, 63 RH 4.33 F# is a Gn
• m58 and m66 RH beat 3 I think Eb works better than Dn here
• m73 and m76 LH 1.0 hearing no Eb above, on 1.66 (last note) hearing Dn instead of Eb

Let me know if you have any questions

Fantastic Ike

QuoteSorry for a bit of a wait here.

No worries! Just happy to share this track

Think that should be everything changed. Hopefully this won't be too difficult for submissions

Kricketune54

One general comment, any symbols on repeated note lines throughout the song should stay consistent throughout the arrangement (unless a simile text is used). For example, adding marcato symbols to m60 RH beat 4, or the first beat 8th notes from m71-77. Unless are you hearing enough of a difference between beginning part of track with these figures and the notes at the end?

• m14 RH hearing Eb's under beats 1-2.66
• m20 RH you could add grace note F# to beat 1
• m22 RH last note is an Fn
• m23 1.0 Gn, 1.66 is an An, could add a grace note C# to last note of the measure (Dn)
• m26 and m30 RH 3.0 top note is Eb and 3.33 is Gn

• m34 RH 2.0 is a Gn, 3.0 is a Ab as well. I actually hear sequence of 4 8th notes as last notes at the end in the guitar part, instead of what is currently present: Eb, Gb, Ab, An.
• m36 RH 1.0 hearing Bb
• m37 RH 2.0 hearing Bb, 2.33 Bn, 2.66 Bb again.
• m39 RH 3.0 hearing Eb again, then Cn on 3.33.

• m40 RH some unrepresented pitches - I hear a Dn that could go in the RH between current notes on 1.0, and then at 1.33 an Eb. Do the reverse  order for m41.
• m40 LH flip around the ties between 1.33 and 2.0, and 2.0 and 3.0. If you reverse which are under and over it wont' look jumbled.
• m45 RH you could add an En grace note on the top Fn

• m53 and m57 you could add something for beat 4 - either a RH gliss or a LH tremolo. There's stuff going on in the original here, and it feels kind of weird to have an abrupt pause in these spots. If you do the gliss, you could also add it to m61 and m65 for consistency.


Kricketune54

mmm was thinking something a little more like this for m40 LH ties
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m67 RH beat 2-3 this could just be a dotted 8th note (as opposed to two tied notes like that)

Quote• m53 and m57 you could add something for beat 4 - either a RH gliss
For this, I think I'm hearing En as the starting gliss note

Otherwise, I think that's it from me

Fantastic Ike

Quotemmm was thinking something a little more like this for m40 LH ties

Was so confused until I looked at the next note over, lol. Missed that

Quotem67 RH beat 2-3 this could just be a dotted 8th note (as opposed to two tied notes like that)

You mean dotted half?

Everything should be fixed.

Kricketune54


Fantastic Ike


Bloop

Hiya, sorry for the wait! I don't have a lot to say about the notes themselves, but mostly about playability. I'll do notes first:
-m35: The guitar bend/note/thingies on beat 2 and 3 (or beat 4 and 7 if you're counting 8ths) are a bit hard to imitate on piano, but maybe you could write them both as Bb-Db's with an An grace note? The An slowly bends to the Bb, but we can't really slowly bend stuff on piano unfortunately.
-m44, 46, 48 and 50 (similar later on in m68): I don't hear a clear F# on beat 3 (or beat 7 if 8ths), I think those should be G's.
-m52, 56, 60 and 64: The F on beat 4 (or beat 10 if 8ths) should be an F# (though I think they're intonated a bit flat? they seem higher than F's tho)
-Looking at this ending in m71-78, does that mean that maybe the first 7 measures + upbeat actually start on the 1 instead? It would "fix" the 9/8 bar too. Probably best to do this at the end so the measure numbers don't change when fixing things. Even if you prefer keeping the pickup measure, this measure shouldn't be included in measure numbering, so the measure numbers would change anyways.

And here's the stuff about playability or arrangement choices:
-m1 to m4 beat 3 (7 in 8ths): You could move the L.H. an octave lower for more power.
-m5-7 (and m75-77): You could add a pedal mark from beat 1 to 3 (7 in 8ths), so the L.H. dyads on beat 1 ring on. For the R.H., I'd actually remove the dotted quarter note and the tie, as the note ends on that beat too.
-m9-12 (and throughout the whole song pretty much): I think you can move the L.H. down an octave whenever it plays this guitar riff, again for some more power. Keep chords (like m20) in their current octave though, otherwise they'd become too rumbly
-m13-m16 (and other places): I'd remove the top C's in the L.H. and put them in the R.H. where possible, it's easier for the R.H. to take them and a lot harder for the L.H. to play with the alternating notes. In m16 you could add an Eb or G in the R.H. in beats 1-2.666 (1-6 in 8ths) below the current dyads so it sounds fuller
-m25-m26 (and other places): The repeated notes in the bottom of the R.H. are pretty hard to play together with holding the note in the top. You could leave out the second note of every 3 continuous 8th notes (so leaving out the C in beat 2.33 (or 5 in 8ths) for example), which still sounds fairly jumpy.
-m26 (and other places): The octave jumps at the end of the R.H. are not impossible, but quite hard. You could leave out the top octave G and Bb though, which still sounds passable. Also, similar to m13-16, leave out the top C's in the L.H.
-m40: I'd leave out the bottom An in the R.H. for playability after the 16th run in m39
-m51-53 and m55-57: I'd move the bottom notes in the R.H. to the L.H. here, as it's easier for the L.H. to play than for the R.H.
-m54 and 58: Similar to the intro, the L.H. could be an octave lower
-m59-66: I think the C's in the L.H. are similarly hard to play here as before. You can try adding some in the R.H. in-between or underneath the dyads if you want (an octave above where they are now), or leave them out entirely if they don't give much new information. Also for the L.H. riff here too, once the C's are gone, you can write it an octave lower.

Fantastic Ike

Woof, didn't think there'd be that much. Anyway, I think that should be basically everything. Tried to add some of those pedal Cs to the RH where it sounded good and playable.

Updated.

Bloop

Looking a lot better! Some new comments from the changes though:

-m1-3: I see you only moved down the last chord in these measures, but I think you can keep the whole of the L.H. down an octave here (so the first 3 beats all down an octave)
-m24-25 and 28-29: The newly added C's here actually make the R.H. harder to play again. This was what I had in mind for these measures:
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I left out the extra C', since I think the intensity of the full chords is there already). In the second measure, I went with the lower octave for the Eb-G-Bb run: the player can use their middle fingers more easily after playing the first octave, and then more naturally move up to the second octave, rather than having to jump from the first octave up.
-m35-37: I see you added some extra harmony in the L.H. here. In m35 and 37 they're a bit on the tougher side, but not too much so, but in m36 it gets harder to play the higher notes while keeping that melody in the lower layer. The C's also kinda get in the way for the R.H. It's probably best to leave out the C's in m36 at least, and maybe also in m35 and 37 just for easier playability. Also, the rest at the start of each measure can be a dotted quarter (instead of quarter + 8th)
-m45 and similar: There are also some F#'s in the R.H. that should be G's, just like you did in the L.H.
-m50-52 and m54-56: Maybe you can write the L.H. in treble clef for easier readability?
-m51 and 55: I think you're missing the marcato marks at the end of the R.H. here?
-m52 and 56: I see you changed the glissando start from an En to an F#. I think the En would work better actually, so that the glissando is a white key glissando instead of a black key glissando. Also, make sure the half rest in the L.H. is an 8th rest + dotted quarter rest instead (because of the 12/8)

Fantastic Ike


Bloop

Only one last thing left (cuz i didn't notice it before, sorry!), but there seems to be some inconsistency with the marcato marks: some are larger (like in m4) than others (like in m15). I personally think the smaller ones look a bit better, but as long as it's consistent it's good ^^ Also, marcato marks are usually always placed above the notes (the only exception being when working with layers), so maybe you could flip their placement in m50-51 and 54-55 in the L.H.?