[NDS] Pokémon Black Version & Pokémon White Version - "Anville Town" by Olimar12345

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Submission Information:
Series: Pokémon
Game: Pokémon Black Version & Pokémon White Version
Console: Nintendo DS
Title: Anville Town
Instrumentation Solo Piano
Arranger: Olimar12345

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[Olimar12345]

[Latios212]

This is great! I've played it a bunch of times and it's a joy to play - can see why you chose it as your favorite arrangement of last year

A couple of comments about how the left hand accompaniment feels:
- There are a couple of times when the left hand feels slightly heavy compared to what came before it. In m. 5 and 13, perhaps it could do without the C on beat 2 since that will be rearticulated on beat 2.5 anyway? The seventh chords on beats 3-4 of m. 20 also seem a bit heavy, but I'm not sure if there's a lighter alternative given the position of the bass and chord.
- Curious why the left hand in beat 1 of m. 10-11 is up an octave? I think it'd sound more natural with the low bass note as in m. 2-3.

Smaller details:
- m. 14 has some extra space at the beginning
- m. 16 beat 4 is missing a G grace note before it
- In measure 17 the top voice keeps ascending on beat 4 as well - do you want to write in an F on top of that chord?
- In m. 18 in the original, the bass doesn't descend to Fb/En until beat 4.5 (it plays F on beat 4)
- The natural on the RH F in m. 19 doesn't seem necessary coming after the system break

[Olimar12345]

This is great! I've played it a bunch of times and it's a joy to play - can see why you chose it as your favorite arrangement of last year

Thank you. :>

- There are a couple of times when the left hand feels slightly heavy compared to what came before it. In m. 5 and 13, perhaps it could do without the C on beat 2 since that will be rearticulated on beat 2.5 anyway? The seventh chords on beats 3-4 of m. 20 also seem a bit heavy, but I'm not sure if there's a lighter alternative given the position of the bass

They sound heavy and a little muddy because the chord-defining 3rds are written below the third-space E (as I mentioned a while back in my presentation). Typically they don't sound as great in that register, but it was a sacrifice I made to make it easier to play, rather than jumping too often.

- Curious why the left hand in beat 1 of m. 10-11 is up an octave? I think it'd sound more natural with the low bass note as in m. 2-3.

I chose the fourth-line F in measure 10 to keep the voice leading smooth from the bar before it, and the G to give it some extra continuity. It also gives it a nice little variety from the first time through the A section.

- m. 14 has some extra space at the beginning
- m. 16 beat 4 is missing a G grace note before it

These were oversights and I can add those rq.

- In measure 17 the top voice keeps ascending on beat 4 as well - do you want to write in an F on top of that chord?

I omitted it for two reasons: the RH is playing/sustaining that F already, and I was keeping them all consistent triads until the bridge so that the seventh chord had more power behind it.

- In m. 18 in the original, the bass doesn't descend to Fb/En until beat 4.5 (it plays F on beat 4)

Yes, I intentionally simplified this as well. I simplified a lot, actually lol.

- The natural on the RH F in m. 19 doesn't seem necessary coming after the system break

Yeah, I suppose it isn't super pressing. I added it just because there were F#s and Fbs in the previous bar and wanted less errors for sightreading.

[Olimar12345]

The files have been updated.

[Latios212]

Alrighty, I played through the sheet again with your comments in mind and everything sounds good! I'll approve

[Latios212]

Ah sorry, one more thing I forgot - the composer should be Go Ichinose.

[Olimar12345]

Ah sorry, one more thing I forgot - the composer should be Go Ichinose.

VGMDB credits Hitomi Sato: https://vgmdb.net/album/20831

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[Latios212]

Go Ichinose is credited for Disc 3 #30 here too.

[Olimar12345]

Oops, I was looking at the wrong disc(s). I'll edit that asap.

Edit: files replaced.

[Bloop]

Looking nice! Just a few comments, which are mostly harmony-suggestions:
-m1: I hear an F on beat 1 in the harmony, you could include that in either the R.H. in its original octave, or in the L.H. so it resolves to the En on beat 3. On beat 3 I hear a Bb instead of a G#, and on beat 4 I hear the bass go Db-Bb instead of C-G.
-m2: I hear the chord on beat 2 as a F6/9 chord, maybe you could change the F to a G so you at least have the 9?
-m3: Here I hear Gm7 (or Gm9) on beat 2, so maybe you could change the G to an F. Some of the other Gm's sound like they are Gm9's too, but I can't hear the F as distinctly as this bar.
-m4: Also a F6/9, so you could change the E on beat 2 to D or the whole beat to C-D-G (same in m12).
-m6-7 and 14-15: I don't distinctly hear the grace notes before beat 1 of these measures (just a bit in m14),
-m18: Even though the F# is already in the bar, maybe you could rewrite the F# just before beat 4 (beat 3 and 5/6th I guess) as a Gb, because it seems to be functioning as a descending line to F/the ninth in a spicy Fb(9)b5. You could even add this Gb to the L.H. on beat 4, so it also resolves neatly to the Gn together with the Ab.
-m21: I again hear a distinct Bb in the chords in beat 3.5 (or technically 3.666) and 4, but this time together with the G# you already have. I also hear a Db on top on beat 3.5/3.666 instead of C.

[Olimar12345]

Hi Bloop! Thank you for taking the time to look through my arrangement. ^^ I'll try to address everything you mentioned, but the theme to my replies is going to sound the same. I created the accompaniment in a way so that it would not be demanding on the player while retaining the style of the piece more authentically. I have intentionally not included every voice in it's original form, and didn't meant to make you search out all of these instances ^^; If it seems like I'm shoving off your suggestions, just know that is not my intent. ^^;

-m1: I hear an F on beat 1 in the harmony, you could include that in either the R.H. in its original octave, or in the L.H. so it resolves to the En on beat 3. On beat 3 I hear a Bb instead of a G#, and on beat 4 I hear the bass go Db-Bb instead of C-G.

-m21: I again hear a distinct Bb in the chords in beat 3.5 (or technically 3.666) and 4, but this time together with the G# you already have. I also hear a Db on top on beat 3.5/3.666 instead of C.

I don't quite hear an F on the first beat... and I've intentionally kept the RH planning 2-note chords for consistency and playability. I was also intentionally trying to keep the LH within an octave's reach within that measure, so I'd prefer to opt not to include these.

-m2: I hear the chord on beat 2 as a F6/9 chord, maybe you could change the F to a G so you at least have the 9?
-m3: Here I hear Gm7 (or Gm9) on beat 2, so maybe you could change the G to an F. Some of the other Gm's sound like they are Gm9's too, but I can't hear the F as distinctly as this bar.
-m4: Also a F6/9, so you could change the E on beat 2 to D or the whole beat to C-D-G (same in m12).

I have intentionally left out some of these chord extensions for playability purposes, and opted to chose chord-defining notes like the root, 3rd, and 7ths.

-m6-7 and 14-15: I don't distinctly hear the grace notes before beat 1 of these measures (just a bit in m14),

Now that you mention it, I don't really hear those either. Huh. I'll take them out.

-m18: Even though the F# is already in the bar, maybe you could rewrite the F# just before beat 4 (beat 3 and 5/6th I guess) as a Gb, because it seems to be functioning as a descending line to F/the ninth in a spicy Fb(9)b5.

I could change this to a Gb for you. I left it as an F# because the upper extensions spelled it as an augmented triad in the RH and I thought that would be easier to read (horizontally). A Gb would be more pleasing to read vertically, though.

You could even add this Gb to the L.H. on beat 4, so it also resolves neatly to the Gn together with the Ab.

I'm going to pass on this one though since I'd rather keep the pitches that are present rather than double up on voices (when I don't have to).


The context in which this arrangement was created is also important, I feel. This is a simple, one-page solo from an obscure town in probably the least-popular generation of Pokémon (I mean that respectfully, Poke-fans!). Those looking for this are more likely to not be professional pianists with many years of experience, but rather the niche gamer/fan. I want it to be accessible to them. I have carefully chosen which pitches to include and which to omit so that it is recognizable, approachable, and more importantly, fun to play. If you haven't already, take it to a piano

(files have been updated)

[Bloop]

Yeah I figured there was a lot of simplification going on, the ones I picked out were ones I felt were still pretty playable. At least I now know they weren't oversights ^^ I don't feel that strongly about most of them, as they're mostly just different extensions of the same chord, so I'll accept!
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