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#21

Submissions / Re: [DC] Sonic Adventure - "At...

Last post by Kricketune54 - August 28, 2024, 01:24:45 PM

I'll have a bit more to say in a follow up post eventually, but I did notice it looked like the rhythm for m17-32 LH was still the same. On beat 3 specifically it should be a 16th, 8th, then 16th as opposed to 16th 16th 8th.

#22

Projects / Re: mastersuperfan's Aquatic P...

Last post by Kricketune54 - August 28, 2024, 01:22:23 PM

Bump for feedback on two sheets

#23

Projects / Re: ThatHiddenCharacter's Aqua...

Last post by Kricketune54 - August 28, 2024, 01:21:58 PM

Bumping for arranger as it's been over a month since I left feedback and we generally try to move the projects on a bit more of a fixed timeline

#24

Projects / Re: Bloop's Aquatic Project Sh...

Last post by Kricketune54 - August 28, 2024, 01:19:19 PM

Ah yeah, you mean Dn sliding to Eb right? I hear it too now, changed the enharmonic spelling to be Fhalfdim too.

to me it sounded like there was a Dn as well in that cluster but now I honestly can't tell.

• m57 RH hearing G# on bottom beat 2 and Fn for beat 4
• m60 RH 2.75 is silent? It sounds like the Fn on 2.5 is the last not to me
• m61-64 RH current beat 4 should move to the beginning at beat 1 and then push current beats 1-3 up by one beat.

#25

Projects / Re: Th3Gavst3r's Aquatic Updat...

Last post by Th3Gavst3r - August 27, 2024, 04:03:10 PM

-m1-5: I hear an E instead of a D# on the bottom of the R.H. chord

Oh yeah I think you're right about that

-m3: I hear an E in the L.H. (instead of C#)

I definitely hear downward movement to the C# there. There might be some low E from the mid chords, but adding it to the LH sounds muddy and there's an E in the RH already

-m5: There's a G# on beat 3 in the R.H.

Ah yeah I totally missed that one

-m8: Maybe you could put this 8th rest in beat 3.5 in the R.H. too? It sounds like all instruments stop playing and only some reverb continues on.

Yeah that's a good call

-m10: The R.H. and L.H. play the same A# on beat 3 here, maybe you could add parentheses the the one in the R.H.?

Good call, I didn't notice that doubling

-m18, 22 and 26: I hear an A instead of a B in the L.H. on beat 2

I'm still not completely sure that the harp even plays a note there. I was extrapolating from the B's in beat 1, but I like A better because it doubles with the RH and sounds more open like the feeling I get from the original harp

-m31: I hear an E in the L.H. in beat 3.75 (below the chord on beat 1 in the next bar). Also, maybe it's easier for the L.H. to take the dyads in beat 2 (and maybe 2.5)? The run on beat 1 walks up to it nicely.

I think the same E plays on beat 3 also, which would make for a lot of jumping around with the LH if you gave it the dyads too. I moved the dyads into the RH on m32 beat 1 also to fit with this thought.

-For m17-30, usually you wouldn't use 8vas in the L.H., as they get a bit counterintuitive to interpret, and in this case, some parts still go up pretty high above the L.H. It's better to switch between bass and treble clef if needed. Maybe you could also check if the R.H. can take over some runs at the end of a measure, so the L.H. has time to jump back down to the bass note on beat 1 of each measure.

The spread of these arpeggios is so wide that I can't find a really good way to write them. With clefs you end up with clef switches every beat and much more cramped bars. And if you add the cross-staff handing it ends up with a wacky amount of context switching. Maybe pianists can just do that? A smooth line of ottava'ed arpeggios makes a lot more sense to me, but with that approach you do lose some clarity with hand prescription. I've uploaded both options to the "Older files" Dropbox folder for comparison, but used your clef suggestion as the main folder's version. I'd be happy to hear others' thoughts about these and other possible approaches.

[Mainland Port/Aquarium/Theater]

#26

Projects / Re: Code_Name_Geek's Aquatic U...

Last post by Code_Name_Geek - August 26, 2024, 09:05:41 PM

Mainland Port/Aquarium/Theater
- Make sure the F's in the melody in m. 1/2/5/6 are flipped upwards and horizontally aligned (probably just delete and re-enter them)
- There's an E in the harmony of m. 9 beat 1 (similar to m. 8 beat 1 that you already have written in)

- Oh how odd, no idea how that happened. Re-entering them worked though, done!
- Definitely meant to add that, good catch!

Mainland Port/Aquarium/Theater
Also quick question, is "GBC" part of the title of the game? We list the consoles of the games on site now, so is it necessary to include as part of the title?

In this case, I would consider it part of the title. Wikipedia, Moby Games, and the game's cover art all include it, as well as the Japanese title (牧場物語GB3).

Thanks for taking a look! Weird to think these might be some of the last Finale submissions I do.

#27

Submissions / Re: [DC] Sonic Adventure - "At...

Last post by tunafish45 - August 26, 2024, 08:15:01 PM

Kricketune54, thank you for the feedback!

I have made the following changes.

• Edited m1-16 right hand to reflect synth chords in OST
• Edited m17 beat 1 and similar measures' right hand notes to quarter notes
• Edited m17-32 left hand to reflect bass in OST
• Removed m69 to end and added repeat sign back to m9
• Removed copyright from pages 2 and 3 in .mus file
• Reduced size of con pedale text

Unresolved:

• m20 and m28 unsure what to change about inner notes

Note:
When I made this I was more focused on musicality and feeling rather than note accuracy. In the song's intro, you hear many voices + percussion, each doing their own thing. I added syncopated melodies both the L&R hand to recreate that effect. Throughout the rest of the song, the left hand also doesn't follow any particular voice either, It's more of a compromise between rhythm, chords, and the other voices. I get that NinSheetMusic strives for accuracy to the source material. If you want a more true to source rendition of "At Dawn", take a look at the arrangement by "Eleventh Floor".

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He uses a drone note in the left hand for the syncopated rhythm, and to make up for the slightly singular tone, he adds another voice to the right hand which may or may not be playable in the later sections. There's no sheet music referenced in his video unfortunately. If you like his version better, I can make changes to my sheet to reflect that and credit him.

Here's my original version for reference.

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Again, thanks for taking the time to review my sheet. I'm looking forward to getting more feedback!

#28

Help! / Re: (Finale) ...What now?

Last post by BlackDragonSlayer - August 26, 2024, 07:27:41 PM

Finale has been discontinued, you are no longer able to purchase it from MakeMusic, and will only be supported for a year from today, after which it will be impossible to install on devices, even with a license.

As someone who does not make compositions, I'm curious whether proposed alternatives (recreations of Finale in Musescore), are comprehensive enough at this point to fully replace Finale for the purposes of this site?

We've been talking about this in the Discord server since the news dropped this morning. On the staff side of things, we're still working out the exact details (and hope to have more news soon!!!), but the tentative announcement is that we'll try to be software-agnostic while also trying to maintain visual consistency with the sheets as much as possible. The Finale announcement is basically expediting changes we were already planning to work out in the distant future. User input is always appreciated.

For the time being, though, we're still using Finale for sheets.

#29

Help! / (Finale) ...What now?

Last post by RaraCool - August 26, 2024, 06:05:08 PM

Finale has been discontinued, you are no longer able to purchase it from MakeMusic, and will only be supported for a year from today, after which it will be impossible to install on devices, even with a license.

As someone who does not make compositions, I'm curious whether proposed alternatives (recreations of Finale in Musescore), are comprehensive enough at this point to fully replace Finale for the purposes of this site?

[Note Feedback]

#30

Submissions / Re: [DC] Sonic Adventure - "At...

Last post by Kricketune54 - August 26, 2024, 01:04:51 PM

Had a bit more time to do a review. I just want to give a heads up before we get pretty far along - but I think there is going to be a lot to correct here. I've jumped around a bit, but there's a lot I have to say and wanted to cover some of the bigger bits that jumped out for me first.

• One other thing is we look to have that bottom page copyright info on the first page only. lmk if you have trouble with that
• "con pedale" is sized a bit large. Usually that's a file conversion issue though because I see it says 12 pt font instead of 18 or something so can hold off for now


Note Feedback
• m1-10 would give m1-2 and m9-10 in particular a relisten. It sounds like the melody moves notes on beat 3, not on beat 2.5 (the latter 8th note half of beat 2 just for terminology clarification). Looks like currently the melody moves notes at those spots a half beat early.
• m7 RH beat 3 hearing An and Bn also under the Dn.
• m17 This applies for a few other places as well, but generally when writing out chord patterns, when there are inner notes like on beat 2, the notes are usually represented at the front end of the held notes. But in this particular measure I also disagree with the length as it sounds like the A's should be a quarter note length at most and not two beats.
• m17 LH pattern (this applies to measures that follow as well), I am hearing the rhythm's beats like this:

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• m70 to end this entire part is actually not at the end of the track - correct me if I'm misunderstanding, but this track repeats from m69 back to m9. We usually specify that arrangements should follow loops from the source song as it would be heard in game. One thing will add, reference this section compared to m1-16 before deleting as I think a lot of the RH's notes should look exactly the same for how they are in this end section.