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TZP probably "greenchecked" me to keep me around as my vote was worth .5. Missed opportunity that people didn't look at that harder, as it made TZP obvious in hindsight (being the only one who wasn't trying to wagon me until his hand was forced). Oh well, hindsight bias and all that.

Damn. Back to back blue seer hits and I get them both wrong. Horrible way to lose.

I probably would have seered BDS in your position, as he was the least likely to have been painted. It came down to a 50/50 either way though.

So TZP was basically outing with his "gambit". Really should've pressured them harder, but not much you can do when you have a red check on you

[Xiao]

Xiao

Specs also said he claimed to me and BDS privately to get our votes/potential votes off him

Oricorio, it's not so much that we're confident THC wasn't the seer as that if THC was the seer, there's no way wolf!Specs or wolf!me would be able to get confident enough that was the case to stick our necks out like this

By the point you claimed, THC was the only other person the seer could've been

As confidence as I can reasonably be under the circumstances. If he was the seer, I don't think the wolves would've known that though, and would've been a lot more likely to not fakeclaim or even make the wrong seer claim.

The wrong seer claim is a 50/50, though the reason for a fakeclaim has to be considered

I mean, we could get a third wagon running. Three wagons might actually skew the results more towards town in this scenario

TZP and Specs aren't wolves together, plus the seering, so I feel confident enough keeping my vote where it is.

Are you confident in THC not being the seer?

[TZP]

Anyway, TZP, self pres and shit even if I don't think this vote is ideal

[TZP]

I vote TZP, I'm not buying the being offline thing and I suspected you from the start. Oricorio at least seems sincere about his actions

Do you still think Specs is a wolf? If so, one of them has to be fakeclaiming from your point of view

Another question: @SpecsFlyer17, why did you publicly reveal your seer color? All that needed to be shared in public was that Oricorio was the recipient of both our seerings. If Oricorio is lynched today, I supose it won't matter since it's info every living player will have, but I don't think there was a reason to publicly out which seer was which between the two of us.

In fairness, I'm the only one who wouldn't otherwise know and I'm probably dying today

If it's wolf!Oricorio paired with wolf!other, I could see wolf!other just going for the solo win at this point, rather than fight for keeping the alliance and sticking out like a sore thumb.

This only really applies to a world where I'm paired with TZP, as a big part of why I'm suspected is because of Xiao's and BDS's pushes on me today. Surely they could have gone after someone else or at least not had such a narrow solve?

A less charitable interpretation, of course, is that both wolves are or will be on the Oricorio vote.

Undoubtedly true. I will say, if I die today you better start solving in w!N1P2 worlds because that's the only way town still has a chance

Oricorio, look, if you're actually a human and you got painted, that sucks, especially with the Santa game as your last wolf game, but antagonizing us to get discussion going is a frustrating way to play (telling BDS he's being stupid, telling Specs to do his homework). Nothing they're saying has been unreasonable and it absolutely reads like you feel like you have your back against a wall

BDS's idea that it's possible that me and Specs found each other as wolf going into D2 was unreasonable and would have required active gamethrowing on the part of Specs to be true, and I'm not sure what you're referring to in the second one. But given your own inactivity in this phase, going after someone for trying to get things going is not a good look. What else do you expect me to do?